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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :
 
http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,34507,00.html

I'm taking this time to return to the flameboard. Seeing Jay and Omega go at it in a polite a way as possible is quite humorous, and leaves hope.

Anyways, Read the above link, tell us what you think. Personally, I find it scary that most of the problems we face today seem to be solved after such a tragic event.
 


Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
This is a Free Speech/First Ammendment issue.

If someone walked into a building wearing an Afghanistan flag ... or burned an American flag in these troubled times ... well, let's just hope people would be as considerate of them (which, they probably would not).

Speaking of which: a vote.

My Jeep Wrangler has grill guards. Currently, they're painted yellow. I am considering painting them individually red, white, and blue (which would give me, essentially, two of two colors and three of the third color, being that there are 7 grills). Thoughts?
 


Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Much as I don't doubt your intentions, it would look terribly tacky.
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Good point. I'll have to redouble my efforts to find a car flag.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
It would also make you look like a hick (however you spell it).

Er, I think. I'm trying to think up a US equivalent here.
 


Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
No, you spelled it right.
 
Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :
 
Now that you've hijacked my thread, I hope you don't have a skyscraper in mind as a target


And Political Correctness has everything to do wih free speech.
 


Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Didn't mean to imply that it wasn't, sorry. I just don't see how anyone's flag on a shirt can be PC or un-PC. Thus, a 1st Ammendment issue.
 
Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
 
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I'm taking this time to return to the flameboard. Seeing Jay and Omega go at it in a polite a way as possible is quite humorous, and leaves hope.

Thank you, thank you very much.

I may have som other comments but I haven't read the link yet.
 


Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
 
Perhaps I'm missing the point, here, but how does wearing or otherwise displaying an American flag offend? I mean, maybe if I had one of those little tiny ones on and was using it as a loincloth to the exclusion of other articles of clothing, I could see that (though no one would want to). Seriously, though, how could this silent display of patriotism offend people?
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Because not everyone is US American?

Personally, I'm not offended, but I'm rather disgusted. Nationalism == a bad thing, especially at a time like this...
 


Posted by IDIC (Member # 256) on :
 
And the line between patriotism and nationalism is a very thin one.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
I didn't even know that there was a line...
 
Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :
 
Could you explain why it is a bad thing?
 
Posted by Obese Penguin (Member # 271) on :
 
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If someone walked into a building wearing an Afghanistan flag ... or burned an American flag in these troubled times ... well, let's just hope people would be as considerate of them (which, they probably would not).

Somehow I doubt most Americans if not most everyone would be able to identify Afghanistan's flag.

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Nationalism
- Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
-The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.
-Aspirations for national independence in a country under foreign domination.


Patriotism
- Love of and devotion to one's country.

Patriotism is good where as nationalism is self destructive in the case of such a multi-cultural nation as the US.

[ September 18, 2001: Message edited by: Obese Penguin ]


 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Well, unless they've changed it recently (which they do), I'd recognize it...

Explain why nationalism is a bad thing? Because it serves no useful purpose, and serves many bad purposes.

If people would quit thinking in terms of nations and borders, we wouldn't have a lot of the problems we're having/are about to have. Look at how many people are screaming to nuke Afghanistan. Why? What did Afghanistan ever do to us? It's nothing but a quarter-million square miles of desert and mountains. Maybe we need to do something about the terrorists who happen to be in Afghanistan. Maybe we need to do something about the government that happens to control Afghanistan. But Afghanistan as a whole hasn't done anything to us. Except that people won't think in those terms. They automatically assume that, since someone in Afghanistan attacked people in the US, Afghanistan itself has attacked the US itself. This isn't true.

What needs to happen is an effort by any group that feels offended and/or threatened by the recent attacks (not just the US) against the people who made those attacks and their supporters (not simply the entire country of Afghanistan). But nationalism keeps people from realizing that.
 


Posted by Stingray (Member # 621) on :
 
Japan didn't attack Pearl Harbor. Agents of the Japanese government (namely their Navy) attacked Pearl Harbor.

Afghanistan didn't attack the WTC, agents of the Afghanistan government (namely bin Laden) attacked the WTC.
 


Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Oh, what a beautiful analogy! Too bad the Taliban aren't really the Afghani government, and bin Laden isn't really an agent of the Taliban.
 
Posted by Obese Penguin (Member # 271) on :
 
Not to mention there is new evidence linking Muhammed Atta (SP) the main suspect in the hijackings to a "high ranking Iraqi Official"

This isnt as easy as Pearl Harbor was , atleast those bombs had a return address.

We need to be 100% sure that the Taliban and Bin Laden were involved before doing anything we could live to regret.

On a side note , if Iraq does turn out to be involved , god help Saddam cause I'm sure this Bush isnt gonna stop at the gates of Bagdhad , indeed god help us all.
 




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