In 2001, the State Department of the United States published a report on the condition of human rights in many countries of the world. This reliable report has a chapter on Israel and the Occupied Territories.
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Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on March 30, 2002 09:35 AM:
Awww, they have a report for Canada but not for the US.....pity....
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on March 30, 2002 09:40 AM:
Does it say "Harmless" or "Mostly Harmless" in the report on Canada.
Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on March 30, 2002 09:41 AM:
Do you really expect the United States Government to write one on themselves?
Maybe we should write one for them.
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on March 30, 2002 09:57 AM:
Start it with paranoid.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on March 30, 2002 10:09 AM:
And then follow it up with "Where they make The Simpsons".
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on March 30, 2002 01:42 PM:
Only so long as they list the existence of the Spice Girls under Britain's...
Posted by Malnurtured Snayer (Member # 411) on March 30, 2002 01:46 PM:
Yeah, but the US still gets stuck with NSync, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Stephen Collings, Christina Aguilera ...
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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on March 31, 2002 09:57 AM:
Britney has some good songs.
And at least your boy-band and teeny-bopper groups are half-way decent within their own genre. We haven't had a decent pop band since S Club 7.
Posted by U//Magnus (Member # 239) on March 31, 2002 10:00 AM:
Oooouugnh.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on March 31, 2002 12:39 PM:
"...decent pop band..."
A what now?
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on March 31, 2002 05:43 PM:
That's an oxymoron, no?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on March 31, 2002 05:48 PM:
Hardly.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on March 31, 2002 11:48 PM:
I was under the impression that TMBG was classified as alternative rock...
Posted by Malnurtured Snayer (Member # 411) on April 01, 2002 12:51 AM:
Hey, I just noticed ... you spelled it right! Congratulations! Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on April 01, 2002 01:14 AM:
Sol's taste for obscure alternative bands nobody's ever heard of once again shows.
Though anything is better than Titney's music.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on April 01, 2002 03:23 AM:
The only one of those bands I know anything about is TMBG, and I wouldn't call them "pop". Don't you have to play a style of music that's actually popular in order to be called "pop"?
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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on April 01, 2002 05:39 AM:
Pop = juicy, sugary guitar lines, and a general "poppy" feel. Pop music can be brilliant, as in those examples, or mindbendingly awful, as in what you would hear on your top 40 station. But bad pop is still pop. Or, more importantly, good pop is still pop.
And none of those bands are obscure. TMBG won a Grammy, for Tim's sake! You can't get more pop than that. The Apples in Stereo are on the Powerpuff Girls soundtrack. We're not exactly dealing with Godspeed You Black Emperor! or Einsturzende Neubauten here.
Ok, so maybe Elf Power is a bit on the obscure side.
And I really love saying pop. Pop novel. Pop art. Pop pop pop.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on April 01, 2002 07:39 AM:
"...a general 'poppy' feel."
I've never gotten that from TMBG. Unless you mean it sounds like they were taking opium when they wrote the songs, which is possible...
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on April 01, 2002 07:47 AM:
"The only one of those bands I know anything about is TMG, and I wouldn't call them "pop". Don't you have to play a style of music that's actually popular in order to be called "pop"?"
Popular with whom? By that criteria, R&B over here could be classified as pop.
And it can be. Pop can be used as a definition in the same way that classical can. As a catch-all, or as a more specific definition. So in the same way that classical can just refer to the Mozart era of music, and it can also be defined to include Romantic, Baroque and Modern; pop music can be defined either as basically "not classical" (which would include Rock, Dance, and others), or it can be as Simon described it.
"Though anything is better than Titney's music."
Insulting something by HILARIOUSLY changing their name makes you look really cool. Honestly. It does. Why don't you follow it up with an amusing post about Windoze? Or Prolestation owners? The merriment would surely cause a mass splitage of sides.
Fair enough if you don't like pop because you're still going through that angsty teenage "the words speak to me on so many levels man" stage. Just don't think it actually makes you even remotely interesting at parties.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on April 01, 2002 12:51 PM:
I didn't mean that anyone playing a popular style of music is automatically "pop". Just that you can't be "pop" if your musical style isn't popular.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on April 02, 2002 06:17 AM:
But what's your definition of popular? There are certainly enough snobby angst-filled "Nobody understands me" teenagers around to make They Might Be Giants fairly popular. They've been going for ages now.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on April 02, 2002 07:52 AM:
Angst?
Posted by U//Magnus (Member # 239) on April 02, 2002 07:58 AM:
Dark & Metric, Like a Neutron Star, Having a gigantic sex organ, you know.
Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on April 02, 2002 08:30 PM:
quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snayer: Yeah, but the US still gets stuck with NSync, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Stephen Collings, Christina Aguilera ...
yep.. all the beautiful people! spice girls on the otherhand... ew.
Posted by Malnurtured Snayer (Member # 411) on April 03, 2002 01:39 AM:
I don't really think of NSync or Backstreet Boys as "beautiful people."
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on April 03, 2002 02:18 AM:
...and we can't really speak for Stephen Collings.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on April 03, 2002 03:44 PM:
I suppose I meant "popular" to equal "popular among people who are easily distracted by shiny objects".
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on April 03, 2002 04:11 PM:
Well, a definition that says, essentially "This is music I don't like" is valid, I think, but not necessarily useful, and certainly not universal.
Even though I might tend to agree.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on April 03, 2002 04:13 PM:
On second thought, that doesn't make much sense, does it?
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on April 03, 2002 07:20 PM:
Duh.
*sees something shiny* Ooh, is that a sword?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on April 05, 2002 08:42 AM:
'I suppose I meant "popular" to equal "popular among people who are easily distracted by shiny objects".'
There's nothing wrong with getting pleasure out of the simple things in life. I'm still impressed with holographic pogs.
Posted by U//Magnus (Member # 239) on April 05, 2002 10:02 AM:
Holographic Pogs? Those haven't even come over here yet. I guess we're stuck in the past.
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