Dateline ran a special tonight on a group of journalism students in Illinois, who are researching the true identity of Nixon-fame informer "Deep Throat."
Over the past three years of the investigation, the list of potential Deep Throats has been cut from literally thousands to a total of seven people. Many "likely" suspects were cut by simple time frame -- they came in too late to the picture to know everything Deep Throat tipped off on (Deep Throat, it should be noted, was a source on the Wallace assassination attempt before Watergate).
Pat Buchanan is one of the seven "suspects."
Yes, THAT Pat Buchanan. There's a lot of circumstantial evidence that points at him, as well, but nothing definite.
Still, kind of mind-boggling to think that Pat "Noose ya' if ya' ain't a Christian" Buchanan (an avid Nixon supporter) could've been behind much of the hoopla ...
[ June 14, 2002, 18:37: Message edited by: Snay ]
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Or that he'd use as his nom de mayhem the title of an incredibly masterful tour de force of erotic cinema.
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
Ohh, those were the people who hated beans, creamed corn, sausage, and grease altogether. Boy I want to post in really big red letter DIE YOU FIENDS!! right now...
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
?!
[ June 14, 2002, 18:54: Message edited by: Snay ]
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
BWC, go fuck yourself. We're trying to have a forum here, not a fucking retard convention.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
My mind is officially blown.
(I refer to Jeff's original post, of course, using the above as an idiom, rather than letting it have anything to do with fucking myself at a retard convention)
[ June 15, 2002, 00:19: Message edited by: The_Tom ]
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
any progress to issuing some warnings to BWC about this kind of thing, as a prerequisite to his eventual bannification?
[ June 15, 2002, 00:35: Message edited by: CaptainMike ]
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
That's fascinating. But I thought Woodward said he would name him when he died, and we all saw him die for helping Scully in "Little Green Men." 8)
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
quote:Jeff is lazy and incredibly bitter and nasty
Uh. Okaaaay ... I guess I can see the lazy bit ('cuz I didn't look for a newslink) ... but "bitter" and "nasty"? How do you figure? Or are you just on one of your "I'm Canadian, I'm allowed to be a dick 'cuz I freeze my ass off all year and people think we're the 51st state you assholes why don't you take your fucking country and move it to Mars or something?!"
And, honestly, if I was lazy this thread woulda been "PAT BUCHANAN IS A PORN STAR! I MEAN, DEEP THROAT! WHO'D'A GUESSED IT?!"
Tom, you're incredible bitter and nasty in your post. It's okay, though. I mean, you're freezing your ass off and people don't even know Canada is a sovereign nation.
quote:I refer to Jeff's original post, of course, using the above as an idiom, rather than letting it have anything to do with fucking myself at a retard convention
Okay. Does this mean Mr. Tom is having trouble with reading? He does know that my second post was "?!" and it was Captain Mike's post that had "anything to do with fucking [yourself] at a retard convention"?
Well? What gives Mr. The_Tom? I'm feeling incredible bitter and hostile now.
[ June 15, 2002, 08:35: Message edited by: Snay ]
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
actually, Snay, you have been nasty lately. So have I, so has UM, and so has every new idiot thats signed up this week. Its all feeding itself. I posted a DARKSTARish go to hell in 'Record Breaking?' but erased it, but basically I might get the hell out of here until Chucky cracks down on this idiocy and it becomes possible to post here again. I think UM is taking the same route, according to his response to my message. I might still pop into the Trek forums, but I haven't seen any thread that I wanted to stay on topic stay on topic for a while, and this isn't the kind of nonsense I want to deal with.
Basically, I'll be back when BWC is bannified, I guess.
[ June 15, 2002, 08:53: Message edited by: CaptainMike ]
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
"bitter" and "nasty == Not posting a link.
Not everything is so complicated.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
I. Was. Being. Jovial. And. Jocular. And. Other. Things. Beginning. With. J.
Chill. The. Fuck. Out.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
:::examines Tom's sentence structure::: Hmm. Looks like he's heavy into his period.
Ha! Menstruation humor! I=Funnyman!!
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Hah. The_Tom is so cool. He ends each word with a period. I wish I was so cool.
But. Wait. I. Can. Be. So. Cool. As. To. End. Each. Word. (I. Mean. Sentence.) With. A. Period.
I. Am. As. Cool. As. The_Tom.
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
This thread makes no sense To me at all.
[ June 15, 2002, 14:18: Message edited by: The BWC ]
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
I'm surprised the English language makes sense to you.
Let's get on topic.
Pat Buchanan = Deep Throat?
Odd, yes.
And I don't understand why The_Tom would say that my first post here was those nasty things. Lazy, yes. But not the rest. I think Tom was angry because he was going to post a thread about it with some clever title, but I beat him to it first.
Soooo sorry, Mr. The_Tom.
[ June 15, 2002, 14:24: Message edited by: Snay ]
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
And now, an educatory moment...
Tom said the following:
"My mind is officially blown.
(I refer to Jeff's original post, of course, using the above as an idiom, rather than letting it have anything to do with fucking myself at a retard convention)
Now, let's break this down and study it piece-by-piece to figure out precisely what it meant, and why none of it was offensive in the first place...
"My mind is officially blown."
To "have one's mind blown" is a common figure of speech used to express a condition of surprise and/or amazement.
"(I refer to Jeff's original post, of course..."
This statement indicated that Tom's amazement was caused by the original subject of the thread (i.e., the potentiality of "Deep Throat"'s identity being that of Pat Buchanan). Tom presumably felt this statement was necessary, as, before his post, the subject had begun to change.
"...using the above as an idiom..."
"The above" is Tom's mention of his mind being "blown". He indicates here that his mind was not, in any literal sense, blown, but that he was simply employing the aforementioned "common figure of speech", or "idiom".
"...rather than letting it have anything to do with fucking myself..."
Unfortunately for modern culture, the word "blow" has become associated w/ a certain sexual practice, also called "fellatio". Tom clarifies that his mind was "blown", not in a sexual sense (hence, he was not "fucking [him]self"), but rather in a dumbfounded sense.
"...at a retard convention)"
This appears to merely be a reference to the post immediately preceding Tom's. It does not seem to server any other purpose than to add an extra sense of humor or sarcasm to the post.
"[Oh, and a link, because Jeff is lazy and incredibly bitter and nasty:"
A joke, based upon the fact that no article was provided w/ the original post, and also based upon sarcastic, but presumably good-natured insulting (a.k.a. "ribbing") of Jeff.
Thank you all for taking the time to read this in-depth analysis of the historical events surrounding the misunderstanding which led to over fourteen hours of off-and-on bickering, insulting, and all-around nastiness. Hopefully, this will better educate everyone, be they involved in the conflict or not, to just chill the fuck out and quit whatever all the hating bullshit around here these days is about.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
quote:(I refer to Jeff's original post, of course, using the above as an idiom, rather than letting it have anything to do with fucking myself at a retard convention)
But none of my posts had anything to do with fucking anyone at a retard convention, so could you explain that bit to me?
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
quote: This thread makes no sense To me at all.
JUSTICE!
Poetic, that is.
(And Snay, look at CaptainMike's first post, the fourth of the thread. There you will find such reference to a retard convention. And I will refrain from any derogatory remarks, no matter how tempting or easy it would be to make one.)
[ June 15, 2002, 17:08: Message edited by: OnToMars ]
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
YES I KNOW HE TYPED THAT! THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT! NONE OF MY POSTS HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH FUCKING ANYONE AT A RETARD CONVENTION!
The point is, it seems The_Tommy is attributing that to ME, and it is not MINE, so why does he keep attributing it to ME?!
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
The post was meant for me. Why is he poniting it at Snay?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Jeff: He never suggested that you said it. Anyone who had read the posts before his should have known exactly what he was talking about.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Well, TSN, when I saw what he wrote about me being "bitter" and whatnot, I assumed he read Mike's sentence, assumed it was mine, and was reaming me out for it.
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
Far too many assumptions.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Snay, I'm with everyone else here: he wasn't trying to hurt your precious little feelings, so CHILL! You don't HAVE to understand the joke, just accept that it was one and move on with your life.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
My feeling are very precious. They must be mended carefully. $50 should do it (hey, I'm cheap).
Seriously, tho, I'm more concerned that he was attributing the "retard convention" line to me. When it wasn't mine to be attributed too.
Omega: I don't care whether you're flying into a flock of seagulls, or charging a horny rhino with a plastic fork. If you somehow think you deciding to agree with everybody for once is going to get me to drop something, you're wrong.
Hell, if anything, it'll just give me more reason to keep opposing the unjustice that was Mr. Tom's post, just so I can argue with you more! Woohoo! Bring it on!
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"...I'm more concerned that he was attributing the "retard convention" line to me."
He WASN'T! Gods, how thick do you think we can possibly believe you to be?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Tom is Canadian. He thereby uses advanced humour tecniques, such as "irony", "sarcasm", and "werid shit". If you are not qualified in any of these, it will be risky for you to attempt to decipher what he means. Just smile and carry on.
Posted by Fedaykin Supastar (Member # 704) on :
hmm, well Kudos to TSN for the brilliant analysis of The_Tom's post. unfortunately Snay still has not grasped on to what The_Tom had meant in his post, even wit TSN's brilliance. A shame.
to help it further - The_Tom was merely enforcing the fact that his surprise was attributed to the knowledge of Pat Buchanan might be 'Deep Throat'. Instead of his idiom refering to the CaptainMike's post on retard conventions. he in no way meant any nastiness to Snay, and that the 'bitter' and 'nasty' comments were only in jest.
my two cents.
oh Psyliam if u object to me using your post content as my signature, pm me thnx.
Buzz
[ June 17, 2002, 02:59: Message edited by: Fedaykin Supastar ]
Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
Deep Throat was definitely Ben Stein.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
quote:He WASN'T! Gods, how thick do you think we can possibly believe you to be?
I know he wasn't, although I didn't know he wasn't at the time. And I explained repeatedly why I thought he was. Did you miss that part? I can explain it again. How watered down can you be?
See, let me explain it again. No, wait, you'll only get more upset. Poor Tim. Go, lie down. I know you have a mental failure when an American uses sarcasm, and you don't miss it.
quote:Tom is Canadian. He thereby uses advanced humour tecniques, such as "irony", "sarcasm", and "werid shit".
Yes, because there's absolutely NO sarcasm WHAT so EVER in this following sentence I wrote, is there?
"Lazy, yes. But not the rest. I think Tom was angry because he was going to post a thread about it with some clever title, but I beat him to it first."
No sarcasm there what so fucking ever. No. Not at all.
quote:"werid shit".
You can keep all your 'shit', 'werid' or not ...
quote: he in no way meant any nastiness to Snay, and that the 'bitter' and 'nasty' comments were only in jest.
No, he was bitter and nasty because he gets off on posting odd stuff like this. He said so, in that other thread about Bushie not liking people turning their back to him.
For all you wankers moan and groan about people not getting "sarcasm" and "humor", you all seem to have just wandered right over a minefield of it. Should I go hilight some MORE lines? Or call some of you thick? Maybe I should just write your name on a target and use it at the range.
To quote George Carlin, "Fuck Mickey Mouse! Fuck him in the asshole with a large rubber dick!"
A few of you should heed his advice.
quote:Deep Throat was definitely Ben Stein.
... and now I feel happy again.
[ June 17, 2002, 07:28: Message edited by: Snay ]
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Ben told us the only thing he was deep throating was merry-gee-wanna.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Jeff: If you were aware that Tom's comment wasn't about you, why did you say that you still thought it was? Refer to what I quoted in my last post.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote: oh Psyliam if u object to me using your post content as my signature, pm me thnx.
I object to "thnx". Honestly, if you're that desperate to save time, why have you typed out "signiture" rather that the accepted by normal people "sig".
If you could correct my spelling mistake of "werid" though, I'd be grateful...
quote: I know you have a mental failure when an American uses sarcasm, and you don't miss it.
Well, there are several clues used when using sarcasm in type-form, in order to compensate for the lack of tone or body language. One of the main ones is that the sentence must be funny.
See, simply saying something that you don't believe doesn't necessarily equal sarcasm.
Example - sarcasm:
"And this is why I want to marry George Bush."
Example - not sarcasm:
"Tom has blue eyes" (when he infact has brown eyes! Do you see?)
Actually, I don't know the colour of Tom's eyes, because I have not kissed him, but you get the point.
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
There are, in Canada, at least, other, not involving usage of the Man-Train, ways of discerning eye color.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
quote:If you were aware that Tom's comment wasn't about you, why did you say that you still thought it was? Refer to what I quoted in my last post.
I don't have that long of a memory. Sorry.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote: There are, in Canada, at least, other, not involving usage of the Man-Train, ways of discerning eye color.
You lie.
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
Well, no. Because, in a Man-Train, everyone's looking at the back of someone else's head, right?
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Unless they'd happen to be very flexible, I'd imagine.
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
Well, in all my years I've never seen one like that.
Posted by Fedaykin Supastar (Member # 704) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam:
quote: oh Psyliam if u object to me using your post content as my signature, pm me thnx.
I object to "thnx". Honestly, if you're that desperate to save time, why have you typed out "signiture" rather that the accepted by normal people "sig".
If you could correct my spelling mistake of "werid" though, I'd be grateful...
I wasnt desparate to save time, by some reason when i'm using the english language on the internet i (almost) always use 'thnx' instead of 'thanks'. Even though i am not desparate for time, or trying to save energy by typing less. i think its just habit.
about the 'werid' i didnt change it because i quote (accurately) like what my History and English teachers tell me to do . but if u really want it changed i'm am only happy to do so for u.
Buzz
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Yeah, but if you are quoting something that's been written down, it's also almost certainly been proofread, and so won't be the "original". So yup, change the spelling. Or I'll eat your face.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
why would he spell it as "signiture" when he spelled it properly the first time?
quote:Or I'll eat your face.
with fava beans and a little chianti, one would hope.
[ June 18, 2002, 18:27: Message edited by: EdipisReks ]