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Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
 
Or a post on some things that I've been thinking about that don't really fit in any current thread.

A favorite recent headline comes from The Scotsman on 26 Feb 2006.

quote:
US leader crashed by trying to 'pedal, wave and speak at same time'

MURDO MACLEOD
POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

HE MAY be the most powerful man in the world, but proof has emerged that President George Bush cannot ride a bike, wave and speak at the same time.

Scotland on Sunday has obtained remarkable details of one of the most memorably bizarre episodes of the Bush presidency: the day he crashed into a Scottish police constable while cycling in the grounds of Gleneagles Hotel.

The incident, which will do little to improve Bush's accident-prone reputation, began when he took to two wheels for a spot of early-evening exercise during last year's G8 summit at the Perthshire resort.

After a hard day's discussion with fellow world leaders, the president was looking for some relaxation. Instead, he ended up the subject of a police report in which the leader of the free world was described, in classic police language, as a "moving/falling object".

It was "about 1800 hours on Wednesday, 6 July, 2005" that a detachment of Strathclyde police constables, in "Level 2 public order dress [anti-riot gear]," formed a protective line at the gate at the hotel's rear entrance, in case demonstrators penetrated the biggest-ever security operation on Scottish soil.

The official police incident report states: "[The unit] was requested to cover the road junction on the Auchterarder to Braco Road as the President of the USA, George Bush, was cycling through." The report goes on: "[At] about 1800 hours the President approached the junction at speed on the bicycle. The road was damp at the time. As the President passed the junction at speed he raised his left arm from the handlebars to wave to the police officers present while shouting 'thanks, you guys, for coming'.

"As he did this he lost control of the cycle, falling to the ground, causing both himself and his bicycle to strike [the officer] on the lower legs. [The officer] fell to the ground, striking his head. The President continued along the ground for approximately five metres, causing himself a number of abrasions. The officers... then assisted both injured parties."

*Emphasis added.

An interesting cover to the March edition of Harper's

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New Phraseology: "The Long War".

quote:
Rumsfeld Offers Strategies for Current War

Pentagon to Release 20-Year Plan Today

By Josh White and Ann Scott Tyson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, February 3, 2006; A08

The United States is engaged in what could be a generational conflict akin to the Cold War, the kind of struggle that might last decades as allies work to root out terrorists across the globe and battle extremists who want to rule the world, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said yesterday.

Rumsfeld, who laid out broad strategies for what the military and the Bush administration are now calling the "long war," likened al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden to Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Lenin while urging Americans not to give in on the battle of wills that could stretch for years. He said there is a tendency to underestimate the threats that terrorists pose to global security, and said liberty is at stake.

"Compelled by a militant ideology that celebrates murder and suicide with no territory to defend, with little to lose, they will either succeed in changing our way of life, or we will succeed in changing theirs," Rumsfeld said in a speech at the National Press Club.

The speech, which aides said was titled "The Long War," came on the eve of the Pentagon's release of its Quadrennial Defense Review (QDR), which sets out plans for how the U.S. military will address major security challenges 20 years into the future. The plans to be released today include shifts to make the military more agile and capable of dealing with unconventional threats, something Rumsfeld has said is necessary to move from a military designed for the Cold War into one that is more flexible.

He said the nation must focus on three strategies in the ongoing war: preventing terrorists from obtaining weapons of mass destruction, defending the U.S. homeland and helping allies fight terrorism. He emphasized that these goals could take a long time to achieve.

Indeed, the QDR, mandated every four years by Congress, opens with the declaration: "The United States is a nation engaged in what will be a long war."

On 13 March 2006, Mr. Bush, speaking to Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, said this about the current conflict.

quote:
The mission of this Foundation is to defeat terror by promoting democracy -- and that is the mission of my administration. Our strategy to protect America is based on a clear premise: the security of our nation depends on the advance of liberty in other nations.

----

And so America is committed to an historic, long-term goal: To secure the peace of the world, we seek the end of tyranny in our world.

Which of course begs the question, how does one keep prisoners of war, excuse me, enemy combatants, locked up in a generational conflict or until we defeat tyranny.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"Which of course begs the question, how does one keep prisoners of war, excuse me, enemy combatants, locked up in a generational conflict or until we defeat tyranny."

Why, "indefinitely", of course.
 
Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
 
  • We Have Victory Conditions!


  • At least in Iraq. Or I should say rather, we have an alleged "We have a comprehensive strategy for victory in Iraq...."

    Back to Mr. Bush speechifying in front of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, he said this:

    quote:
    We have a comprehensive strategy for victory in Iraq -- a strategy I laid out in a series of speeches last year. Our strategy has three elements: On the political side, we are helping Iraqis build a strong democracy, so that old resentments will be eased, and the insurgency marginalized. On the economic side, we are continuing reconstruction efforts and helping Iraqis build a modern economy that will give all its citizens a stake in a free and peaceful Iraq. And on the security side, we are striking terrorist targets and training the Iraqi security forces -- which are taking responsibility for more Iraqi territory and becoming increasingly capable of defeating the enemy.
    However, the economic side just hit a major reconstruction bump in the road.

    quote:
    Electricity Hits Three-Year Low in Iraq

    By CHARLES J. HANLEY and SAMEER N. YACOUB, Associated Press WritersTue Mar 14, 3:21 PM ET

    Electricity output has dipped to its lowest point in three years in Iraq, where the desert sun is rising toward another broiling summer and U.S. engineers are winding down their rebuilding of the crippled power grid.

    The Iraqis, in fact, may have to turn to neighboring Iran to help bail them out of their energy crisis � if not this summer, then in years to come.

    The overstressed network is producing less than half the electricity needed to meet Iraq's exploding demand. American experts are working hard to shore up the system's weaknesses as 100-degree-plus temperatures approach beginning as early as May, driving up usage of air conditioning, electric fans and refrigeration.

    If the summer is unusually hot, however, "all bets are off," said Lt. Col. Otto Busher, an engineer with the U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division.

    "We're living miserably," said housewife Su'ad Hassan, a mother of four and one of millions in Baghdad who have endured three years of mostly powerless days under U.S. occupation. Her family usually goes without hot water and machine washing, she said, and "often my children have to do their homework in the dim light of oil lamps."

    Despite such hardships, Army Corps of Engineers officers regard their Restore Iraq Electricity project as one of the great feats in corps history, along with the building of the Panama Canal a century ago.

    Their efforts and related programs, at a three-year cost of more than $4 billion and tens of thousands of man-hours, built or rehabilitated electric-generating capacity totaling just over 2,000 megawatts � equaling the output of America's Hoover Dam.

    ----

    Although the U.S. effort helped boost Iraq's potential generating capacity to more than 7,000 megawatts, available capacity has never topped 5,400, held down by plant breakdowns and shutdowns for maintenance, fuel shortages and transmission disruptions caused by insurgent attacks, inefficient production, sabotage by extortionists, and other factors.

    In the first week of February, a busy maintenance period, output dropped to 3,750 megawatts, reports the joint U.S. agency, the Gulf Region Division-Project Contracting Office. That's a new low since the period immediately after the 2003 U.S. invasion.

    Now the U.S. reconstruction money is running out, the last generating project is undergoing startup testing in southern Iraq, and the Americans view 2006 as a year of transition to full Iraqi responsibility, aided by a U.S. budget for "sustainability," including training and advisory services.

    Even that long-term support may fall short, however. The reconstruction agency allotted $460 million for this purpose, but in a report to Congress on Jan. 30 the special inspector-general for Iraq reconstruction estimated $720 million would be needed.


     
    Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
     
    On a complete side note - Condie Rice presented the Women's 100m Breastroke medals tonight at the Commonwealth Games (*cough* Australia won Gold, Silver and Bronze). She's a giant of a woman!

    Anyone reckon she could make President or at least Vice-President?
     
    Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
     
    The Secretary's qualifications for the job aside, there are two rather large strikes against her receiving the Republican nomination, or at least there are in more cynical (or more realistic?) eyes. But various pundits and the like have dropped her name as a possibility that isn't totally, well, impossible. Though I note that now that campaigning has sort of begun no one is talking about her anymore. (This may have something to do with the President's and by extention her job performance being exceedingly unpopular.)
     
    Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
     
    What the hell is she doing at the Commonwealth Games? Or was it a fact-finding mission - is the Commonwealth, with its status of Club The US Doesn't Belong To, to be added to the Axis Of Evil?
     
    Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
     
    quote:
    Originally posted by AndrewR:
    Anyone reckon she could make President or at least Vice-President?

    There's a book out who's title makes that very prediction, plus another very scary one:
    "Condi vs. Hillary"

    B.J.
     
    Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
     
    Mind you, I'm not sure what qualifies anyone to be President, apart from being a rich white guy, on which Condi loses on two out of three counts. There is precedent for Presidents who've not previously held elected office - Taylor, Grant, Taft, Hoover and Eisenhower. I'm not sure who'd win in a contest between a black woman and That Woman.
     
    Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
     
    Hilary is a woman?
     
    Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
     
    Ooooo, cheap shot!
     
    Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
     
    She may not be crazy rich, but I am sure her paycheck for running Stanford was healthy.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/rice-bio.html
     
    Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
     
    quote:
    Originally posted by Lee:
    What the hell is she doing at the Commonwealth Games? Or was it a fact-finding mission - is the Commonwealth, with its status of Club The US Doesn't Belong To, to be added to the Axis Of Evil?

    I believe she has been here to participate in some sort of Tri-lateral talks between the US, Australian and Japan.

    I wonder if - stop eating the fucking whales came up during that meeting?
     
    Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
     
    quote:
    Originally posted by Jay the Obscure:
    Ooooo, cheap shot!

    Funny as hell though.

    Besides, if Hilary runs, it'll be a huge defeat for Democrats (and democracy in turn, by allowing the Republicans another four years).

    But then, we live in a world where tens of thousands turned out to honor Milosevic as a hero.

    Widespread public ignorance, wishful thinking and blind nationalism rule the day.
    quote:
    On the political side, we are helping Iraqis build a strong democracy, so that old resentments will be eased, and the insurgency marginalized
    So now the insurgentcy is only to be "marginalized" and not defeated?
    Sounds like we're turning our enemies into a creamy butter substitute: "I cant believe it's not Osama!"

    Can someone please bring back Patton or Pershing to just do what is required to win this war.
    Zombie Pershing would put the fear of Allah into the insurgents.
    Awwww Yeah.
     
    Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
     
    How about zombie George C. Scott as zombie Patton?

    Edit : I just realized how that matches my status line, about which I had forgotten. Bonus!
     
    Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
     
    quote:
    Jason was, like:
    Can someone please bring back Patton or Pershing to just do what is required to win this war.

    Don't presume that winning this war was ever an acceptable outcome for this presidency. They have a vested interest in insuring continued conflict. Try to imagine all the scandals we've swept being beneath the rug during peace time. It wouldn't happen. *goes to watch V for Vendetta again*
     
    Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
     
    Bush has already decided to cut and run, he has said that another president will have to decide when to pull out troops.
     
    Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
     
    Well, I'm sure that's a great comfort for the families of the 2,000-odd US servicemen and women who, based on the casualty rate to date, will die between now and when he moseys off to establish the *snigger* George W. Bush *guffaw* Presidential Library!
     
    Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
     
    You mean the White House Presidential bookshop annex. Stacked with get-rich-quick tomes and the memoire collection "How I Did It", foreword by El profesor Fronkonsteen.

    *rimshot*

    *cleveland steamer*
     
    Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
     
    Gross.
     
    Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
     
    Net.
     
    Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
     
    Plus tax!
     
    Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
     
    And death!
     
    Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
     
    Er. . . Mornington Crescent!
     
    Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
     
    quote:
    when he moseys off to establish the *snigger* George W. Bush *guffaw* Presidential Library!

    It's going to be the best darn colouring book collection in the world.
     
    Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
     
    quote:
    Originally posted by Lee:
    Er. . . Mornington Crescent!

    You can't do that; you were in spoon!
     
    Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
     
    Ahh, but the spoon rule is reversed when there's an 'R' in the month.
     
    Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
     
    Except under Pilkington's Variation, which I believe is the standard for forums.
     
    Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
     
    Cultural imperialist swineology!
     
    Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
     
    The hell is this, Calvinball?
     
    Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
     
    Pilkington's Variation is still under review by the Rules Committee. Personally I prefer to go by the Vilnius Gambit, as it leads to prolonged and more interesting gameplay. Otherwise, the invoking of spoon at the point you did just leads to an effective stalemate in Earl's Court, and where's the fun in that?
     
    Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
     
    True, unless someone's willing to take the risk of mjoving to Aldwych. Dangerous, I know, but this is a game of chances.
     
    Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
     
    You obviously know your stuff - we should play a game soon. Aldwych is risky, but can send the game in a whole new direction. I once escaped by playing Birmingham New Street - you can imagine the shockwaves that caused! A completely legal move, but it took several turns of gameplay to get back on track, and even then just barely - Chalfont & Latimer, if you can believe it!
     
    Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
     
    Quickly my friends, they are attempting to disable Landru!
     
    Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
     
    Oh, hell, a Dollis Hill loop'll do that.
     
    Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
     
    *lightbulb* A diversion.
     
    Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
     
    You're all on double secret probation! Your house charter is revoked and the government has been informed of your new eligible draft status.
     
    Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
     
    Is George W. Bush just a misunderstood genius? Apparently at least one person on the right side of the blogosphere seems to think so.

    quote:
    A Stroke of Genius?

    It must be very strange to be President Bush. A man of extraordinary vision and brilliance approaching to genius, he can't get anyone to notice. He is like a great painter or musician who is ahead of his time, and who unveils one masterpiece after another to a reception that, when not bored, is hostile.

    Hyperbolic? Well, maybe. But consider Bush's latest master stroke: the Asia Pacific Partnership on Clean Development and Climate. The pact includes the U.S., Japan, Australia, China, India and South Korea; these six countries account for most of the world's carbon emissions. The treaty is, in essence, a technology transfer agreement. The U.S., Japan and Australia will share advanced pollution control technology, and the pact's members will contribute to a fund that will help implement the technologies. The details are still sketchy and more countries may be admitted to the group later on. The pact's stated goal is to cut production of "greenhouse gases" in half by the end of the century.

    What distinguishes this plan from the Kyoto protocol is that it will actually lead to a major reduction in carbon emissions! This substitution of practical impact for well-crafted verbiage stunned and infuriated European observers.

    I doubt that the pact will make any difference to the earth's climate, which will be determined, as always, by variations in the energy emitted by the sun. But when the real cause of a phenomenon is inaccessible, it makes people feel better to tinker with something that they can control. Unlike Kyoto, this agreement won't devastate the U.S. economy, and, also unlike Kyoto, the agreement will reduce carbon emissions in the countries where they are now rising most rapidly, India and China. Brilliant.

    But I don't suppose President Bush is holding his breath, waiting for the crowd to start applauding.

    George W Bush, a man of extraordinary vision and brilliance.

    Someone needs to take this guy's Kool-aid away from him.
     
    Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
     
    AMERICAblog points out how one person differs with Mr. Bush on the issue of the mass deportation of illegal immigrants.

    quote:
    Against a fence

    Posted: May 15, 2006
    1:00 a.m. Eastern

    � 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

    Dear Jorge plans to address the nation tonight, a speech wherein he will almost surely attempt to deceive citizens into believing that he does not wish the mass migration from Mexico to continue unabated. He will likely offer some negligible resources for law enforcement and border security � resources which will never materialize � in return for an amnesty program that will grant American citizenship to the Mexican nationals who have helped lower America's wage rates by 16 percent over the last 32 years.

    And he will be lying, again, just as he lied when he said: "Massive deportation of the people here is unrealistic � it's just not going to work."

    Not only will it work, but one can easily estimate how long it would take. If it took the Germans less than four years to rid themselves of 6 million Jews, many of whom spoke German and were fully integrated into German society, it couldn't possibly take more than eight years to deport 12 million illegal aliens, many of whom don't speak English and are not integrated into American society.

    In fact, the hysterical response to the post-rally enforcement rumors tends to indicate that the mere announcement of a massive deportation program would probably cause a third of that 12 million to depart for points south within a week.

    ----

    *Emphasis added.
     
    Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
     
    So only 8 million then? That's awesome. That's like Jews, Commies, Gypsies, & a smattering of fags. Don't even need to consider Catholics, artists, philosophers, & other assorted mongrels.
     
    Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
     
    It's rather disturbing when you read something and think "heh, that's some funny sarcasm", and then you realize it was serious.
     
    Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
     
    Yeah- scary shit.

    From a diffrent, slightly less insane perspective, here in South Florida, the Cuban population by large is against any amnesty for illegals!

    Sounds strange untill you realize that the bulk of that population is second generation Cuban/Americans.
    That menas that, while ma and pa may have floated on over in a raft, they dont want any "filthy Mexicans" staying here.
    I shit you not- it's weird to hear people that speak almost no english rail aginst Haitians and Mexicans -as long as cubans have Jeb Bush's "Wet Foot/Dry Foot" policy to protect and provide instant amnesty for any Cuban refugee that hands on US soil.

    Slight double standard there, as any illegal Haitian caught in US soil is detained or deported.

    But then, the Cubnan/American population won Florida for George, so their votes bought a lot of special consideration from his brother in Talahasse.

    I heard an intresting viewpoint on the radio the other day- it was from a guy that was going for his citizenship (through official channels and after a couple of years in the process) and he was totally against this "amnesty" because he said they did not have to work for citizenship and dont aprecieate it the way he and millions of others have.

    I kinda agree with that, though making felons of immigrants is obviously assinine and obviously unworkable.

    It's likely that the process for becoming acitizen through official channels needs serious revision along with the work permit/visa programs.
     
    Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
     
    Why all this now, though? I mean, the border-crossings have been going on for years, and apart the usual background-hum hand-wringing on the subject nothing's really been done. It seems that as long as TPTB's gardens were nicely tended, their kids were looked after and their sweatshops were fully staffed, then it wasn't really a problem. Hell, they even moved all their factories down south of the border to cash in on all that cheap labour, but they just kept coming.

    For the most part I tend to avoid the right-wing extrusion of the blogosphere, as I prefer to enjoy continued digestion of my last meal. But even my limited sampling therein seems to suggest that this new policy is viewed as half-assed at best, given none of the border state governors were consulted and the person charged with implementing the policy has made several off-message, don't-have-a-clue pronouncements. And why, they wail, wasn't something done immediately after September 11th 2001?

    Despite all that, I think the policy will be popular. Why? If I could (no access to that site from this PC) I'd link to a recent entry on Tom Tomorrow's blog about how (paraphrasing heavily) most Americans seem to cling to the American Dream, even though most of them manifest almost no part of it in their daily lives, because they believe that if they're good little consumers they may get admitted to the American Dream Country Club. And so, if they can struggle with expensive healthcare based on expensive insurance but still persist in believing that universal state-provided healthcare is Socialist And Bad, then they can also believe that (despite all being the descendants of immigrants, even merely second-generation ones) Further Immigration Is Bad.
     
    Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
     
    (either the site's available at lunchtime, or it isn't blocked anymore - I really can't keep track, for example one day Google Images works, the next it doesn't - but the aforementioned post is here)
     
    Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
     
    quote:
    Originally posted by Lee:
    For the most part I tend to avoid the right-wing extrusion of the blogosphere, as I prefer to enjoy continued digestion of my last meal.

    Although it can be rather fun to see what some of the folks on the right side of the blogosphere are up to.

    I have a few sites bookmarked but most of what I post has been linked to by the liberal blogs I visit.
     
    Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
     
    [sarcastic astonishment]REALLY?!?? I would have never guessed![/sarcastic astonishment]
     
    Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
     
    quote:
    most Americans seem to cling to the American Dream, even though most of them manifest almost no part of it in their daily lives, because they believe that if they're good little consumers they may get admitted to the American Dream Country Club
    Most are Christians as well- Parallel?
     
    Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
     
    "Why all this now, though?"

    Midterm elections are in six months.
     
    Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
     
    How is it that there are people in India who can speak fairly good English and are working in call centers there while we have people that have been in America for years and still "No Hablo"?

    Why is it that people that came over from the Orient speaking very little English a year or two later own their own businesses and have nice homes. Their kids make straight "A's" and excel while other ethnicities can be in school for years and not be able to read, write, or speak the English language?

    Why is it that McDonalds had to put little pictures of the menu items on their registers?

    Pretty soon we can get rid of the alphabet altogether and make EVERYTHING a glyph or icon instead. That way people who choose not to learn basic skills can still operate in society without having to be embarassed by their lack of education.
     
    Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
     
    Wait a minute. . . are you implying that people in India have learned English in order to get jobs dealing with Americans?
     
    Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
     
    No, to make Bollywood-style movies that the rest of the former Empire can enjoy.
     
    Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
     
    Wasn't Imperialism grand?
     
    Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
     
    We were rather fond of it, yes.
     
    Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
     
    Here's something interesting that really doesn't deserve a new thread.

    Dan Froomkin writes this in his column :

    quote:
    "Among those who watch Fox for their news, 59% approve of the job George W. Bush is doing as president and 29% disapprove. But among non-Fox viewers, just 25% approve of the president's performance and 66% disapprove."

     
    Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
     
    From the same Dan Froomkin column : comes these 2 other itmes:

    quote:
    Maureen Dowd writes in her New York Times opinion column (subscription required): "The president has enshrined his immaturity and insularity, turning every environment he inhabits -- no matter how decorous or serious -- into a comfortable frat house.

    "No matter what the trappings or the ceremonies require of the leader of the free world, he brings the same DKE bearing and cadences, the same insouciance and smart-alecky attitude, the same simplistic approach -- swearing, swaggering, talking to Tony Blair with his mouth full of buttered roll, and giving a startled Angela Merkel an impromptu shoulder rub. He can make even a global summit meeting seem like a kegger. . . .

    "Catching W. off-guard, the really weird thing is his sense of victimization. He's strangely resentful about the actual core of his job. Even after the debacles of Iraq and Katrina, he continues to treat the presidency as a colossal interference with his desire to mountain bike and clear brush."

    And...
    Top 10 George W. Bush Moments (Letterman)
     
    Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
     
    From the same Dan Froomkin column : comes these 2 other itmes:

    quote:
    Maureen Dowd writes in her New York Times opinion column (subscription required): "The president has enshrined his immaturity and insularity, turning every environment he inhabits -- no matter how decorous or serious -- into a comfortable frat house.

    "No matter what the trappings or the ceremonies require of the leader of the free world, he brings the same DKE bearing and cadences, the same insouciance and smart-alecky attitude, the same simplistic approach -- swearing, swaggering, talking to Tony Blair with his mouth full of buttered roll, and giving a startled Angela Merkel an impromptu shoulder rub. He can make even a global summit meeting seem like a kegger. . . .

    "Catching W. off-guard, the really weird thing is his sense of victimization. He's strangely resentful about the actual core of his job. Even after the debacles of Iraq and Katrina, he continues to treat the presidency as a colossal interference with his desire to mountain bike and clear brush."

    And...
    Top 10 George W. Bush Moments (Letterman)
     
    Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
     
    Dowd often comes across as a total cunt though.
    Democrats would do well to steer well clear of her...for when she finally says something that offends everyone in a liberal-Coulter kinda way.

    Hmmm...I wonder if I'd be successful with a call-center where the callers all use fake "quickie Mart" accents and call India...
    I'd probably get arrested

    [ July 21, 2006, 12:28 AM: Message edited by: Jason Abbadon ]
     
    Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
     
    quote:
    Originally posted by Jay the Obscure:
    quote:
    Maureen Dowd writes in her New York Times opinion column (subscription required): "The president has enshrined his immaturity and insularity, turning every environment he inhabits -- no matter how decorous or serious -- into a comfortable frat house.

    "No matter what the trappings or the ceremonies require of the leader of the free world, he brings the same DKE bearing and cadences, the same insouciance and smart-alecky attitude, the same simplistic approach -- swearing, swaggering, talking to Tony Blair with his mouth full of buttered roll, and giving a startled Angela Merkel an impromptu shoulder rub. He can make even a global summit meeting seem like a kegger. . . .


    I don't see this as a problem. I see this as someone who is very comfortable being themselves, and to me it comes across as being very honest. If I met someone who adheres to strictly to protocol all the time, I'd be wondering what they're hiding, and what would happen when I meet the *real* person. Clinton (as I remember him, YMMV) acted very much the same.
     
    Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
     
    Found this on one of the blogs I read.

    quote:
    Animal House in the West Wing

    He loves to cuss, gets a jolly when a mountain biker wipes out trying to keep up with him, and now we're learning that the first frat boy loves flatulence jokes. A top insider let that slip when explaining why President Bush is paranoid around women, always worried about his behavior. But he's still a funny, earthy guy who, for example, can't get enough of fart jokes. He's also known to cut a few for laughs, especially when greeting new young aides, but forget about getting people to gas about that.

    That's our president, liker of the fart joke.
     
    Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
     
    I bet he tries to get Cheney to play battleshits with him, too.
     
    Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
     
    Not anymore, Dick is armed and dangerous.
     
    Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
     
    If Dick stepped down, would George be....Dickless?
     
    Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
     
    More perplexing, if the next President is a woman, would they still call her husband the First Lady?
     
    Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
     
    No more than they would refer to her as "Mr. President".
     


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