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Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
Have you ever wanted to cheat on a test?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91lQK5SCzlQ&feature=bz302
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Y'know, that seems like it would work. Which is odd, since every other video this guy has seems to be complete bollocks.
 
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
 
I used to write out my notes on the inside of the front cover of my calculator. I think that would be slightly less suspicious that constantly looking at the "Nutritional Information" on a bottle of pop.
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Now, see, most of my exams that need notes/formulae provide them. So this isn't very helpful... The one exam I have this term that I could use that for, there's too many formulae anyways. [Frown]
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
You know with all the time and effort this takes you might as well just study.
 
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
 
Where's the fun in THAT?
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
My highschool forbid labels on bottles of water or soda for this reason.

Also, I cheated once by writing the answers to the review questions (which almost always matched the test, lazy sod) with my eraser on the surface of my desk. So you could see it from a proper angle, and wipe it off afterwards. Turned out I knew the answers anyway, but *hey*...
 
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
 
"My highschool forbid labels on bottles of water or soda for this reason."

Not surprising since any educational institution by now would have gotten a hold of this video and modified their testing procedures accordingly.

And while we're on the subject of cheating, allow me to post the following:

http://www.thestar.com/article/347688
http://www.thestar.com/article/346141
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
I ran into similar problems when I managed to get a hold of the complete solutions for the textbook for one of my classes. The prof eventually caught on, there was a hearing, etc etc. Moral of the story: ITS. NOT. WORTH. IT.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"We asked if students should be allowed to share homework assignment tips on websites such as Facebook."

Isn't that the same as saying "we completely missed the point"?

The real problem is what the dean mentioned at the end of the article. The assignment was supposed to be done without any collaboration. The use of Facebook is completely irrelevant. If the students had gotten together at someone's house and exchanged answers, it would have been the same. The only difference is that the teacher probably wouldn't have found out about it (or, at least, couldn't have proved it).

No-one cares if students exchange answers on Facebook (or anywhere else). Unless the teacher says "don't exchange any of these answers".
 
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
I've heard tales of how my college physics professor once responded to something like that. Some students got the answer book and copied all the homework solutions out of it. They did no homework all semester, then turned it all in, perfect, on the last day. He knew what they'd done, he was mad, but somehow it wasn't a technical violation of the rules. So for his last lecture, he went through six chapters of quantum mechanics in 50 minutes.

Not a man I cared to make angry.
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
I had a teacher who would make the whole class go out in the hall and do six-pointers if one person misbehaved bad enough. He said it was to make the parties responsible feel bad that they put their friends through that punishment. Most of the time it worked. Once, the idiot didn't seem to care, so one of the larger kids in class punched him in the balls and gut. We all looked the other way. Even the teacher.
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
Salta'hna - I haven't been in higschool for four full years...I think they were just concerned about people writing stuff on this inside of the label. Dunno that this video was out back then [Wink]
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
What I would love to know is how people manage to get less than a 99% on a take-home-test? They are alowed to use the fricking notes!
 
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
Sometimes the tests are genuinely bad.
 
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
 
And sometimes the professors grade unfairly (I had one who consistently gave women higher grades than men), and sometimes they're essay responses when not everybody can write well, and sometimes the professors' expectations aren't clear. And some professors grade on curves.

Also, at least at my school, the profs are required to show midterm grades to the dean, and if everybody gets As, it makes the professor look bad.
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
I am thankfull that my math regents exam was graded with a significant curve. Otherwise, I doubt I'd have pulled off the 89% I struggled to get. I think the Chem regents has a much lower curve, so I should probably learn how to balance chemical equations.
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
*shudders* Yep. Never doing that crap again.
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
Yesterday in lab we got to make Hydrogen gas by adding 3 molar HCL to a magnesium strip. Collected it in a test tube and then lit it on fire. It made that horrible screeching sound that those paper cup wet-sponge-with-string turkey simulators make. Made me drop the testtube on my lab binder and set the lab paper on fire. It got all my calculations.

I hope that doesn't happen on the lab practical exam. No curve will help me there.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"...paper cup wet-sponge-with-string turkey simulators..."

That is definitely the bizarrest sequence of words I've read this month, if not for longer.
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
Naw, we did that shit too. But we said they were "chicken calls." Paper cup + knotted string with sponge rubber-banded around it = chicken call! You pull the sponge sharply as you hold the cup, and it makes a chickeny, turkeyish noise.
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
Yeah, that's it. We call them turkeys because we make them around Thanksgiving, and they were decorated to look like turkeys. Oh, the joys of being 7.
 
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
 
I consider myself a fairly knowledgeable history buff. I ended up taking an American History course taught by a radical feminist whose main goal was to indoctrinate the sheep to the fact that everything that happened in history occurred because of a woman. If you did not ascribe to her perspective, you were wrong. I managed to escape that class with a C-. I would very much have enjoyed giving her the "Joan of Arc Treatment". And yes....she HATED men. Anytime a person with a "Y" chromosome answered a question or spoke in class they were IMMEDIATELY refuted and belittled.
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
I hate those radical feminist types. I'll give you a phallic symbol - you go try making a vulva-shaped missile and see how well it flies! (And on another note, at *some* point when building a very tall structure, it will get taller than it is wide and long. Apparently at that very moment it becomes phallic. So what - build all of our shit square??)
 
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
 
One of my university friends had a huge crush on one of those short, lesbian, uber feminist, rather unpleasant types. We spent most of the next three years ridiculing him about it.

She was so horid in fact, that her girlfriend ran off and dumped her for a man. As far as I could tell, this just made her fair game in his eyes. What a mashocist.
 
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Daniel Butler:
(And on another note, at *some* point when building a very tall structure, it will get taller than it is wide and long. Apparently at that very moment it becomes phallic. So what - build all of our shit square??)

Pfft. Then we'd just think you're mocking us by building things box-shaped...
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
So, if every building in the world looked like vulva and breasts, feminists would be happy?
No, wait. They would complain that men were staring at their buildings... [Wink]
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
One could point out that no-one would be happy if penises actually had a rectangular cross-section.
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
Square peg, round hole? [Wink]

Seriously though, I've often tried long and hard (pun NOT intended) about what other possible shape things could be that couldn't be considered 'phallic.' I mean, guns have to be shaped that way to actually manage to throw the bullet in the right direction; rockets and missiles have to be that shape to fly; buildings are tall because we like to go higher, not because we want them dick-shaped. I'm at a loss and still waiting for some feminist to propose a new shape for things that would actually work that didn't remind her of penises. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, Frau!
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
What about ass cheeks? Men and Women both have asses.
 
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
 
Which leads back to THIS Post. I made earlier.
 
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
 
I guess we could build something in THIS SHAPE.

I mean, that would NEVER be considered phallic. AND it would rival the Burj Dubai.
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
Well, the answer is simple. We do not change the shape of buildings, but instead, we find a way to genetically change the shape of the penis.

Secondly, we rename the washington monument the Clinton Spire. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sean:

Secondly, we rename the washington monument the Clinton Spire. [Big Grin]

According to Monica....that would be an overexaggeration.
 
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
 
There was a Futurama gag about that. I think in the episode with the mermaids... they pass by the Washington Monument, and then the Clinton Monument, which is the same design, but twice the size.

In the commentary, nobody said anything during that moment, and then one of them goes "That was a penis joke, by the way..."
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
I am not fond of futurama. Family guy however...
 
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
 
I am not fond of Family Guy. South Park however...

[Razz]
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
Too crude. And the episode where Cartman "pretends" to have tourette's is just plain rude and has taken from me the will to EVER watch that show again.
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
If you can stand rape jokes on Family Guy, you can stand Tourette's jokes on South Park.
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
*tsk* No SubGenius are you, Sean.

I love Futurama. So many geeky jokes! Family Guy isn't really my thing though. It can be funny but usually I can watch an entire episode without cracking a smile.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"If you can stand rape jokes on Family Guy, you can stand Tourette's jokes on South Park."

Not to mention that Cartman's pretending to have Tourette's ends up biting him in the ass. And the fact that they took time in the episode to explain how the popular portrayal of Tourette's as nothing but a tendency to yell swears all the time is inaccurate. Of all the things on "South Park" by which one could be offended, I would think the Tourette's episode would be pretty far down the list.

And, to return to the previous topic, it seems important to point out that, for obvious reasons, penises and vaginas are the same shape, just inverted. So, if the outside of every skyscraper is supposedly a giant cock, doesn't that make the inside of every skyscraper a huge cunt? Just saying.
 
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
 
Wouldn't it have to be the other way around? Otherwise, fucking would take some serious acrobatics. And Fred Phelps would have a coronary just imagining it.
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
Eh...no, I think he's got it right...

Speaking of South Park. What other episode could feature "I made you eat your parents!" as a line by a character who actually in fact made someone eat their parents...and make it funny as hell instead of just sick? Somewhere deep in South Park is actual artistic genius, I'm sure of it...it's just buried beneath social commentary buried beneath faux-sophistication buried beneath sophomoric humor. (Which makes me laugh a lot.)
 
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
 
How? The penis goes inside even though it's external.

Then again, I did go to a Catholic high school, and you know how sex ed is there...
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
My family is 90% catholic, and almost 100% homophobic, ( which is why I dispise almost every member of my father's family) so I was told that sex is something gay people do. So, naturally, I had to ask my aunt and her girlfriend. [Big Grin]

My school's sex ed is plain disgusting. The teacher passed around a condom, and a diafragm, and asked for volunteers to have spermicide squirted on their hands. Gross.

It is not the episode that pissed me off, it IS the portrayal of Tourett's in popular culture that pisses me the fuck off.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
"Gross?" Dude.
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
Well it is a bit gross to be squirtin' spermicide on middle schoolers' hands...

HopefulNebula: Yes, but I think the point is that the 'inside' of the building is a space, i.e., the inverse of the outside of the building. It's interesting the different ways people visualize space; it took me a minute to realize what you were saying ;P
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
"Well it is a bit gross to be squirtin' spermicide on middle schoolers' hands"

High schooler's hands thank you very much. In middle school and elementary school, all we got were some poorly drawn diagrams and sheets of vocab terms. They did such a poor job of explaining it that I did not know that it was necessary to put the penis in the vagina in order for conception to take place untill I was 12. I thought that sex was actually sleeping naked in the same bed with someone of the opposite sex. So much for quality education.
 
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
 
Are you sure it was supposed to have the 'icide' attached?

Did they teach you how to have verbal sex? It is the safest kind you know.
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
Sean: My little brother used to think the same thing! He had a vague idea that sperm somehow crawled out of the penis, across the bed, and into the vagina under their own power.

Also, right, sorry, high school...15 and 16 year olds DO go to high school, that's right... [Razz]

You also just made me laugh - you reminded me of the video they showed us in 5th grade. It was sort of a cartoon of a penis in cutaway, showing the vas deferens, prostate, etc etc...and they animated it going from flaccid to erect and then ejaculating...but they had sound effects. like a slide whistle for the erection and cartoony "shloop shloop" sounds for ejaculation. Death by laughter to a kid that age.
 
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
 
We had a teacher when we got told about the nasty in school called Ms Gottabid (pronouced go-to-bed).

Vala's wrong, irony is great.
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
Sound effects? In 6th grade we watched The Nine month Miracle. It was like a cartooish interactive dvd that was just funny as hell. One line I rember vividly is said by a 7 year old.
" Uncle Ben, why doesn't aunt Jesse have a penis?" THe funniest thing for some reason...
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
"Boys have pensis, girls have vaginas!"

Heh heh. Schwarzenegger movies.
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
WHAT DID DO SEAN!?WHAT DID YOU DO!?
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
*whistles*
Y...e...a...h...
That. Is. Quite. Disturbing.

And interesting. Did the doctors give him a functioning male organ, with the ability to concieve? Sex between him and his wife must be interesting...
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
The article says right there "According to reports, Thomas Beatie ... decided to keep his female reproductive organs." So, presumably, no penis is present.
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
Yet, he is legally a man. With the exception of victims of castration, isn't he missing his legal man part?
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Well, not knowing the details of the laws that dictate how to determine someone's legal gender, I have no idea.
 
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
 
And those can vary state by state. Some places you have to have the surgery before you can get legally classified as the other sex. Others require a certain amount of time spent "passing," or a certain length of hormonal treatment. Some require all of the above.
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
There was a teacher in a local school district who had a sex change operation. The district had to let her go because of the trauma counsiling that the kids needed. I think he/she taught 4th grade.
 
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
 
...trauma counselling?

What the fuck?
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
You know, I've said this before (though never on Flare to my knowledge), but I'll say it again...even if it's not evidence of mental problems to desire a sex change, I would certainly never consider it because...you're still a man in my book. A man with his penis cut off and breast implants. Your DNA is male. Until and unless we can change all the cells in a body to female (and there are differences in some cellular processes beyond making eggs - *another* essential requirement) I don't consider transsexuals as different from their 'original' gender. Which doesn't mean I think there's anything wrong with it...I'll treat a person as the gender they want to be treated, it's their business after all.

Of course, even if we could change all the DNA but still not allow the person to have a functional uterus and ovaries, some wouldn't call them females. However to me they'd be females with no uterus...like tons of other women who've had hysterectomies.

I guess what I'm saying is that I look at it from a genetic perspective. XY is male, XX is female. Those poor people who are actually born with the DNA of a particular gender but whose bodies don't react to sex hormones or however that disease works, and end up appearing as a female when they're really male for example, those to me are males with a disease, not females with a genetic problem. But again, whichever gender they choose to live as is their own business, just like it is everyone else's in my opinion.

Oh and Hopeful, you don't think a bunch of 4th graders whose teacher changed genders would need some counseling? That's not a normal occurrence for a child and any massive change in caregivers is traumatic anyway.
 
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
 
Aah. Somehow I missed the 4th grade part.
 
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
 
Then there's always THIS.
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
Boy, she gets uglier every year...
 
Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
 
She wants to look like a cat and yet she looks a bit man-ish... she needs a new plastic surgeon.
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
She does look rather mannish. She looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick! ...Yeah baby.

I read a flash fiction once set in a future where biological science was so advanced you could pop down to the shop and get a tail or remove an arm or add a third eye or something, and different 'modifications' were like clothing or hairstyles these days...'in,' 'out,' 'lame,' 'so last year.' I bet if that doesn't happen, it'll happen as avatars in a virtual world when everyone uploads.. [Wink]
 


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