I wonder if THIS group will be considered 'racist' or 'extremist'.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Well, that's it. I guess it's time for us to just pack up and all move back to Europe.
*sigh*
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
I saw this day coming, at least I have my trusty Winchester.
Posted by Doctor Jonas (Member # 481) on :
I plan to stay and fight shoulder to shoulder... along with the originary people of this land. Because I'm quite sure I won't be leaving anywhere if I agree with the essence of the movement!
Let's face it, I'm quite of European descent (very much pale and blond-haired), but I abhor the treatment they've been receiving, and still are. Maybe it's easier for me to sympathize because everyday I see Bolivians and Paraguaians, and people from my own country, with ancestors coming originally from this continent, working beside me, in worse jobs than I do (mostly), and being despised by nice, really Christian, whiteys. Mostly so, I deeply respect Evo Morales' policies (not so convinced about what Chavez is doing in Venezuela, but he surely kicked a couple of beehives and the country needed it), and sure hope this is a trend that goes deeper and changes things for the better.
I won't ellaborate more because I'd like to see your own views, seriously. Whoever wants to ask me any questions, feel free to do so.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Well like allot of extremists they're not wrong but also, like allot of extremists completely out of touch with reality.
There isn't a scrap of land on this Earth that hasn't had one group of people unjustly displaced by another (at least once) and if everyone was forcibly moved back to where their ancestors came from...well Africa would suddenly become a MUCH more crowded place.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reverend: There isn't a scrap of land on this Earth that hasn't had one group of people unjustly displaced by another (at least once)
Yes there has... Antarctica! Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Don't be so sure. Parts of it were inhabitable about 12,000 years ago and you can bet if people lived there more than a generation there'd be squabbles afoot. Plus there's that whole deal with the squid wotsis and the winged vegetable things... Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
i seem to recall in dreams that once, when 'Free Willy' was popular, that one particular Bi-polar individual took up the means of protest by using Migets and 'Large object-insertions'
"FREE WILLY or i'll shove my fist up the dwarf's ASS!!"
or something like that... of course i on longer recall if i was refering to the whale or Mr. jennings/Nelson/what-ever...
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Maybe its my being a white, heterosexual, conservative, male...... but I can see the point of view of William Foster in "Falling Down".
Anyway, to me it is the same as people wanting reparations for their great-great-great-great-grandpa being a slave, which is A LITTLE LATE. It is complete nonsense to expect every white person in America to be 'ashamed' of what their long ago ancestors did. That is the same mentality that causes the hostilities and wars that plague the Middle East, the Irish-British fighting, and whatever 'two-groups-in-close-proximity-anywhere-on-this-planet-you-choose 'conflicts. Continuing animosity towards a segment of society over past injustices just fuels the flames of hatred. I don't look at a German and automatically think "What a NAZI". Nor should anyone stereotype as hatefully as this group has done.
I believe you SHOULD take pride in your ethnicity and cultural background, but not at the expense of denigrating others as inferior OR being white supremacy. It is just as racist for this group to spout that garbage as it is for a Caucasian to say "Latinos are inferior". But where is the outcry against this type of bigotry?
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
*sigh* what ever. Just another group of small dick-miget fisting fucktards. are they on the FBI's watch list (according to the 2nd google link, the website is based in LA (go figure? LOL)
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote:Originally posted by WizArtist II: Maybe its my being a white, heterosexual, conservative, male...... but I can see the point of view of William Foster in "Falling Down".
Anyway, to me it is the same as people wanting reparations for their great-great-great-great-grandpa being a slave, which is A LITTLE LATE. It is complete nonsense to expect every white person in America to be 'ashamed' of what their long ago ancestors did. That is the same mentality that causes the hostilities and wars that plague the Middle East, the Irish-British fighting, and whatever 'two-groups-in-close-proximity-anywhere-on-this-planet-you-choose 'conflicts. Continuing animosity towards a segment of society over past injustices just fuels the flames of hatred. I don't look at a German and automatically think "What a NAZI". Nor should anyone stereotype as hatefully as this group has done.
I believe you SHOULD take pride in your ethnicity and cultural background, but not at the expense of denigrating others as inferior OR being white supremacy. It is just as racist for this group to spout that garbage as it is for a Caucasian to say "Latinos are inferior". But where is the outcry against this type of bigotry?
Well because like someone stated earlier, they're out of touch with reality. Their radicals views are not shared by a majority of people, so no one makes a huge outcry cause no one really cares. Kinda how I figure no one really cares about white supremests, or communists, or any other really whacked out group. While the issue of the rights of indigenous groups is close to many peoples hearts, they wouldn't probably follow these bozos since it would alienate sympathizers who are of a different ethnicity and undermine their goals.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Mostly so, I deeply respect Evo Morales' policies
Please- the guy's a tool of Chavez and his policies are destroying his country by leaps and bounds. I do think he's done some good by getting the native peoples voting but unless those same people are raised from the abject poverty and lack of education they suffer from, they're just voting for Morales because he's of their ethnic background.
So far, Morales has promised to land "re-distribution"- which leads to economic collapse (just look to Africa for examples) and makes his country even more dependant of Venezuelan support.
Morales is also following Chavez's policy of non-intervention of narco-trafficers: most of said traffic now flows through Caracas's airport (but I'm sure it's not like Chavez's government is getting a pay-off to allow drug smuggling or anything).
Morales walks a fine line between presiding over populist rallies where "Death to America" is chanted and accepting US military supplies to equip his soldiers (in return for his supposed assistance against narco trafficers).
As to this odd group, it's kinda sad- a pipe dream of people desperate to re-write history: highlighting their people's culture while not aknowledging any benefit European colonization has brought.
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