This probably shouldn't be here, but what the heck, it's not like this Forum is groaning under the weight of traffic, anyway.
So, as discussed here, please suggest all the episode titles you like from any show (not just Trek, or SF) that you like, as many as you like.
Feel free to explain why you think your nominations are so good. Are they funny, or very clever, or make some clever allusion to something that most people would never get? Or are they just so plain stupid they achieve a brilliance of their own?
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Ooh!
B5: "A Late Delivery From Avalon" "Sleeping in Light" "Objects in Motion/Objects at Rest" "And The Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place" "The Deconstruction of Falling Stars" "Sic Transit Vir" (Just 'cause of the horrible pun) "Intersections in Real Time"
Andromeda: "Una Salus Victus" (just 'cause I'm a sucker for Latin) "Immaculate Perception" (...and for slight modifications of common phrases...) "The Lone and Level Sands" (...and for "Ozymandius"...)
Farscape: "Liars, Guns and Money" "Self-Inflicted Wounds: Could'a, Would'a, Should'a/Wait for the Wheel" "Infinite Possibilities: Daedalus Demands/Icarus Abides" "We're So Screwed" (Nothing quite beats naming a massive season-ending trilogy "We're So Screwed")
Posted by WizArtist (Member # 1095) on :
B5: "The Geometry of Shadows" just because "The Illusion of Truth" "The Very Long Night of Londo Molari" had a few of those. "The Corps is Mother, The Corps is Father" for those who like Parthenogenesis
DS9: "Trials and Tribble-ations" Too much fun.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Hmm...
B5: (in addition to the ones listed by Omega) The Parliament Of Dreams And The Sky Full Of Stars A Voice In The Wilderness A Race Through Dark Places The Long Twilight Struggle Passing Through Gesthemane Falling Towards Apotheosis The Exercise Of Vital Powers Between The Darkness And The Light Meditations On The Abyss And All My Dreams, Torn Asunder Movements Of Fire And Shadow
DS9: In The Hands Of The Prophets Nor The Battle To The Strong In Purgatory's Shadow By Inferno's Light Ties Of Blood And Water Far Beyond The Stars Wrongs Darker Than Death Or Night In The Pale Moonlight Tears Of The Prophets Treachery, Faith, And The Great River Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges The Changing Face Of Evil Tacking Into The Wind
SG1: Children Of The Gods The Torment Of Tantalus There But For The Grace Of God Within The Serpent's Grasp Forever In A Day 2001/2010 (yeah, so, I dig Clarke references) Wormhole X-Treme (so corny that it's cool)
And, of course...
TOS: Where No Man Has Gone Before (DUH!) The City On The Edge Of Forever For The World Is Hollow And I Have Touched The Sky Let That Be Your Last Battlefield Requiem For Methuselah
[ December 20, 2003, 04:00 PM: Message edited by: Cartman ]
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Was going to say the same thing:
TOS: For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky.
beautiful title.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Marge Simpson in "Screaming Yellow Honkers".
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Futurama: "Where No Fan Has Gone Before".
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
TNG: The Inner Light
DS9: In The Pale Moonlight
Voyager: Message in a Bottle
TOS: City on the Edge of Forever
Wil and Grace: that Michael Douglass episode
Charmed: The episode where Shannon Doerty dies
CSI Miami: Forced Entry
Married With Children: When Marcy's lesbian cousin visits
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Futurama: Roswell That Ends Well
Red Dwarf: Queeg
Buffy: Doppelgangland
Angel: (Has some great titles - just a few:)
To Shanshu In L.A. Apocalypse, Nowish There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb Slouching Toward Bethlehem
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
"Slouching Toward Bethlehem"? Boy, "The Second Coming" is a popular source for ep titles, Andromeda also used "It's Hour Come Round at Last", "The Widening Gyre" and "Pittiless as the Sun". Back when she show was, y'know, good.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
What does "Slouching Toward Bethlehem" actually mean?
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Perhapos Michael T might like to spend a couple of minutes at epguides.com and find out what these episodes were called, unless that Charmed ep really WAS called "The One Where Shannon Doherty Dies"?
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Nobody's mentioned the X-Files either. Probably justy as well since I looked in epguides and found that while some of them sound nice, very few of them give any idea what the ep is about - or at least none that I can understand without heavily researching each one. There used to be a really good site, I think at fandom.com, that summarised each ep, had images and quotes, and explained the title's meaning. But here are a few. . .
"Die Hand Der Verletzt" "Fearful Symmetry" "Dod Kalm" "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose" "War of the Coprophages" "Jose Chung's From Outer Space" "Talitha Cumi"/"Herrenvolk" "Musings of a Cigarette-Smoking Man" "Zero Sum" "Unusual Suspects" "Kitsunegari" "Schizogeny" "Drive" "Tithonus" "Two Fathers"/"One Son" "Monday" "Sein und Zeit"/"Closure" "all things" "Je Souhaite" "Redrum" "This is Not Happening"/"Deadalive" "Jump the Shark"
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Methinks he was listing best episodes, and not best episode titles...
" The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert A shape with lion body and the head of a man, A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun, Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds. The darkness drops again; but now I know That twenty centuries of stony sleep Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"
Being poetry, it can be interpreted in many ways, but the most obvious interpretation to me is that it refers to the coming of the Antichrist, i.e. the Beast in Revelation, also associated with the Man of Sin elsewhere. But that may just be my perspective.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
"The Widening Gyre" is probably my fave Andromeda title, saw a book called that as well recently. I'd completely forgotten it was from a Yeats poem though. Nice one Omey. 8)
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Yeah, Yeats' TSC is often quoted in SF shows, these lines in particular:
quote: Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.
He should get posthumous royalties, or something. B)
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
The problem with B5 titles is that, by the time the show gets into season 4, there's a tendency for overblown titles involving metaphoric words that tell you nothing about the episode. "In the Shadow of Z'Ha'Dum" was cool, but by the time we get to "Movements of Fire and Shadow", I really just want to punch JMS in his stupid shadowed face.
Friends really should get some sort of credit here for, basically, doing the most perfect episode titles of any TV series ever.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
by the time the show gets into season 4, there's a tendency for overblown titles involving metaphoric words that tell you nothing about the episode.
"Falling Toward Apotheosis" comes to mind. Personally, I like the titles, so I suppose it's a matter of taste.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
That's not so bad. It's the middle lot of ones, because by that point, the series had firmly stopped being individual episodes all connected, and was just one long story broken down into 45 minutes parts.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"In the Shadow of Z'Ha'Dum" was cool, but by the time we get to "Movements of Fire and Shadow", I really just want to punch JMS in his stupid shadowed face.
Right! Why bother with heavy metaphors when you can have such scintillating titles as "Demon" or "Riddles" instead?
Anyway, who says that a title must necessarily be descriptive or directly related to an episode? Is that some vague unwritten rule every writer has to obey, or do people just not like to crack their brains too much?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cartman: [i] Anyway, who says that a title must necessarily be descriptive or directly related to an episode? Is that some vague unwritten rule every writer has to obey, or do people just not like to crack their brains too much?
You mean like SG1's "The Torment Of Tantalus"? Not only does the episode suck like a black hole, the characters repeat the episode's title twice and then give a webster's definition of who Tantalus was, why he was in torment AND how it applies to the episode's featured characters! It had all the subelty of a Pokemon cartoon.
Worse still: they play that ep every month at least once on Sci-Fi channel like it's a classic.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Hey, hey, hey. I didn't say the episode was a classic, only that I liked its titular mythological allusion. OK, actually I didn't say that either, but there you go. B)
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Well, you managed to use "titular" in a sentence without it being a sexual joke, so I hereby forgive you. Go: and watch crappy episodes no more....
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote:Originally posted by Cartman: [i] Anyway, who says that a title must necessarily be descriptive or directly related to an episode? Is that some vague unwritten rule every writer has to obey, or do people just not like to crack their brains too much?
You mean like SG1's "The Torment Of Tantalus"? Not only does the episode suck like a black hole, the characters repeat the episode's title twice and then give a webster's definition of who Tantalus was, why he was in torment AND how it applies to the episode's featured characters! It had all the subelty of a Pokemon cartoon.
Worse still: they play that ep every month at least once on Sci-Fi channel like it's a classic.
ToT is a GOOD episode... it changes what we know about the history of the Stargate and is important for the rest of the series!
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
A good episode can do that and still stand on it's own: like The Search Part II. Or tat episode where Troi explains being annoying and sounding phony are Betazed traditions.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Except that "The Search part II" really wasn't that good at all.
quote:Originally posted by Cartman: "In the Shadow of Z'Ha'Dum" was cool, but by the time we get to "Movements of Fire and Shadow", I really just want to punch JMS in his stupid shadowed face.
Right! Why bother with heavy metaphors when you can have such scintillating titles as "Demon" or "Riddles" instead?
When it's the same heavy metaphor that the writer has already used 7 billion times in the series, it's no longer interesting, original, or clever.
quote:Anyway, who says that a title must necessarily be descriptive or directly related to an episode? Is that some vague unwritten rule every writer has to obey, or do people just not like to crack their brains too much?
Er, because an episode title that doesn't relate to an episode in anyway is pointless?
"Hey, let's have Archer come across a planet where the government is trying to hide extra terrestrial contact from it's populace. We could call it 'The Moonlight Dances On An Open Grave With The Grace of Time Itself".'
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"Er, because an episode title that doesn't relate to an episode in anyway is pointless?"
Ah, ah, ah. Not "in anyway", but "directly". Most of B5's later titles do still have some bearing on the episodes (or at least on the show as a whole), even if they are a bit convoluted. But that's only JMS indulging himself, and since the man couldn't write dialogue to save his ass, just grant him that one pleasure, will you? B)
"The Moonlight Dances On An Open Grave With The Grace of Time Itself"
*sigh*
Liam, I love you like a baby, but there is exaggerating, then there is stretching to absurdity, and then there is tapping into a new dimensional plane of ridiculousness, which is what you're doing here.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Tsk. When that episode gets made, you'll be forced to apologise.
It's just that the episode titles become interchangable. "In the Shadow of Z'Ha'Dum" and "Z'Ha'Dum" both work for their respective episodes. "The Deconstruction of Falling Stars" works, but, well, I'm looking at the season 5 titles, and I honestly couldn't tell you what happens in most of them. Or a fair few season 4 titles. "The Wheel Of Fire", "Rumors, Bargains and Lies", and more, whereas I can identify pretty much every season 1-3 episode.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Yeah, that's true, but I don't think the interchangeability syndrome is caused by the somewhat overblown titles so much as it is by the predominantly craptacular S5 episodes themselves.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
"Rumors, Bargains and Lies" was the ep where Sheridan tricks the League into letting the White Star fleet patrol their borders, and the religious caste thought Delenn was going to surrender to Neroon. That ep title fit, and made me remember the episode. You're right in general, of course, but not on that one.
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
While we're on the episode title analyzation, can someone explain to me why "The Best of Both Worlds" relates to the Borg?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Because the Borg try to combine technology with living organisms. They want the best of both being alive and of being machines.
At least, that's all I can think of.
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Okay, let's hear other theories...
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Locutus, in particular, perhaps? He was the prominent character around which things revolved during most of the episode, an amalgam of human authority and rhetoric (the Borg probably recognized him as one of Earth's most important figures due to being commander of the flagship), crossed with the finest cybernetic enhancements his body could accept and the gift of infinite wisdom and insight from the collective.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Why assume the title refers to the Borg, and not to the conflict in the episode, the Borg v the Federation?
The Borg sent their "best" ship to assimilate Earth (a stretch, do the Borg have things like "best", "better", "bestest"?), and encountered the "best" ship of the Federation. Hence, you have the "best" of the Borg against the "best" of the Federation. You could argue that all Borg are (or, were) essentially equal to one another at that time because of their interconnecticity and lack of Hugh- and Voyager-ness, but "Best of One World and Representative of Skills of Another World" is kind of long and um, boring.
Nim, I think the Borg's selection of Picard have less to do with him being CO of the flagship and more to do with "Wow, he commanded that ship that went really really really REALLY fast bye-bye right when we were about to gut it like a fish."
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
I guess that never occurred to me before, that they could have easily have gotten a spokesdrone from the colony they scooped up or the ship they nabbed. . . They could hardly have known they would encounter the Hey-Don't-Zip-Off-So-Fast-We-Were-About-To-Assimilate-You ship so soon in their campaign, so I doubt they planned to grab Picard from the very start, they seem to be big on contingency plans (time-travelling spheres for example); they thought "we're going to need a Locutus at some point, let's wait and see if we bag ourselves someone with enough authority." I don't think they were going to count on whatever celebrity the captain of the Federation flagship might have, because even after, in later eps like "Chain of Command" and "Gambit" there are plenty of people who don't recognise him.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
It's possible the Borg create a "Speaker" when they encounter enough resistance that a targeted species will be wiped out rather than effectivly assimilated.
As to Picard "not being recognised", man, I HATE that! We've made celebrities of athletes and statesmen but no one recognises the man that saved Earth several times. It all stewms from that idiotic two part "pirate" story. that episode would have been ten times better if Picard's role was swapped with Geordi, Worf or fuck, even Crusher! Riker could still have played his part the same with Picard staying on Enterprise to follow along.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
I mean, people might know the name ... but if they met Picard, "Man, I pictured you as being at least six-feet tall, with big muscles."
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Also, think scale here. How many people are there alive in the 24th century in the Federation and nearby empires? There's going to be LOTS of people who could be famous for one reason or another. It's fairly likely that a bunch of pirates really weren't that up to date with "Big Enemies Attacking The Federation". I mean, apart from Wolf 359, the Borg didn't actually do anything during that incident.
That's not to say that the Borg weren't specifically looking for Picard. They did attack and possibly assimilate that, er Laku (or something like that). If that was a Federation ship, they could have been looking for records of the Starship Enterprise Registry NCC-1701-D. I can't remember but was the Borg ship heading for the Enterprise when they came into sensor range?
(And to go back to the Borg being amazed at the super amazingly fast Enterprise, there's every chance that Q "wiped" that bit of knowledge from the Borg, so that they only remembered the Enterprise, and not that it zoomed off really quickly).
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: (And to go back to the Borg being amazed at the super amazingly fast Enterprise, there's every chance that Q "wiped" that bit of knowledge from the Borg, so that they only remembered the Enterprise, and not that it zoomed off really quickly).
I always thought that was why the Borg were interested in the Federation in the first place! They wanted the technology to "zoom away really quickly". Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Well, no, that's a fan-made theory. They could just have easily decided that, based on the information in the Enterprise's computers, they should maybe send a cube out to conquer and assimilate the Federation. When they could be bothered.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: (And to go back to the Borg being amazed at the super amazingly fast Enterprise, there's every chance that Q "wiped" that bit of knowledge from the Borg, so that they only remembered the Enterprise, and not that it zoomed off really quickly).
I always thought that was why the Borg were interested in the Federation in the first place! They wanted the technology to "zoom away really quickly".
Well I would say that the Borg at J25 observing the 'Q-effect' would have started drooling collectively - and said "GET TO THE FEDERATION AND GET THAT TECH NOW!!"
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Yes, you can say that, and many have. But Liam is right when he points out that that isn't actually a part of the story itself. It's inferable, sure, but even if we only consider TNG the Borg apparently had some interest in the Alpha Quadrant prior to that, not to mention that they should have known after "The Best of Both Worlds" that the Federation didn't have that technology, and gone off and bothered somebody else, were that their sole motivation.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
The Borg could conceivably have known that long before BobW, even, from all the Federation colonies and outposts they scooped up along the neutral zone.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Exactly: if the Enterprise just had gotten carved up and assimilated like a christmas goose, the Borg may have left well enough alone: the Federation was hardly worth all the effort of schleping across the quadrant at that time or they'd have invaded after taking the colonies along the NZ. I (personally) think the Borg were intrigues by the fight the Enterprise gave them and it's rapid retreat was just the icing on the cake. Besides, scooping up colonies would tell you squat about a species' starships and colonies along the border were likely devoid of sensitive material: wouldnt want the Romulans to get their hands on it.....
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
So it's all Q's fault. The Borg knew of the Federation, but they were too far away to be immediately assimilated or to threaten the Collective. Then all of a sudden this huge starship pops into their territory, spends a few hours there, then just as mysteriously pops out again. All of a sudden the UFP is of immense interest. Maybe they even finally received a message from the "Regeneration" Borg and decided to make a move.
Strangely enough, it all sort-of fits, and finally replaces the "the Borg didn't know about the Federation until them met the E-D" theory that got scuppered by Generations and "Dark Frontier" (to pick one of several eps that screwed our perceptions of the timeline about).
Perhaps that's why Q got in trouble with the Continuum, and explains his "Don't antagonise the Borg!" warning he later gave his son. . .
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I hate to do this:
quote:Originally posted by Lee: Strangely enough, it all sort-of fits, and finally replaces the "the Borg didn't know about the Federation until them met the E-D" theory that got scuppered by Generations and "Dark Frontier" (to pick one of several eps that screwed our perceptions of the timeline about).
Or, say, "The Neutral Zone", which has the Borg scooping up several Federation colony worlds along the Neutral Zone.
I suppose we actually have to come up with a reason why THAT cube never wandered over to the Federation proper. Did the colony's not have any information on Earth? Unlikely, considering that every Federation computer seems to have information on everything from the dawn of time. Was their mission just to attack the Neutral Zone? Possible, and the Borg are a bit simple minded, so they possibly wouldn't have deviated from that until the Collective had had time to analyse the data.
Personally, I think that the "Neutral Zone" cube got there by accident. A wormhole, or something. And then fell into another wormhole immedietly after.
Or, maybe, just maybe, Q had already decided to teach humanity a lesson by showing them that they weren't aware of what was out there, so he bought a cube into Federation space for a bit, and then sent it back, hoping perhaps that the devestation would cause Starfleet to pull it's collective finger out. That didn't really work, so he then tried an alternative approach of sending the Enterprise to them.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
So, is it too late to rattle off episode titles like Lee wanted us to do?
And I think "The Moonlight Dances On An Open Grave With The Grace of Time Itself" is a kick ass title. I may have to use it sometime.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: I hate to do this:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lee: [qb]I suppose we actually have to come up with a reason why THAT cube never wandered over to the Federation proper. Did the colony's not have any information on Earth? Unlikely, considering that every Federation computer seems to have information on everything from the dawn of time. Was their mission just to attack the Neutral Zone? Possible, and the Borg are a bit simple minded, so they possibly wouldn't have deviated from that until the Collective had had time to analyse the data.
Mabye the Borg ship was backtracking some intresting Iconian technology they found elsewhere and that led them to the NZ? I seem to recall the Transwarp hub not being built by the Borg themselves......but that could be the crack talking. It's Christmas, after all.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Well now THAT would be interesting... All the transwarp hubs and conduits leftover from some race that the Borg assimilated.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Or the Borg were themselves an offshoot of said race..... Mabye they were even tampered with via technology and just sorta took the ball and ran with it...
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Oh, yeah, episode titles. Forgot about them. This goes on, this could be about the first thread ever moved OUT of the Contest Forum. 8)
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
The contest is to derail the topic in under 5 pages.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Since I don't want to re-rail this thread, I'll just list a few episode title from a couple series (::cough::cartoons::cough: :) I watch regularly.
From The Big O: Winter Night Phantom, Negotiations with the Dead
From Zoids Chaotic Century: The Longest Night of the Republic, The Resurrection Monster, The Moment of Annihilation, Return to Another Tomorrow
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Back to the Borg, maybe they were busy fighting the Romulans and didn't have any available resources i.e. ships to send into the Federation proper. The Romulan Commander in TNZ did say that matters of more importance had caused their absence ...
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
But how could they fight the Borg? They don't even have any characters on the main cast! Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Well in Best of Both Worlds according to Q and Guinan (I think - which would mean most opinions held by El Aurians - covering Generations) The Borg's sole purpose was improving their technology. So the Q-flash would have been candy for the Borg. It easily explains away Dark Frontier, The Neutral Zone and Regeneration too... since as mentioned - the Borg may have been aware of the Federation presence but they didn't have anything that would ad to their collective whole - they had enough races like that near by to them to deal with. How do we not know that Q brough BOTH the cube and the Enterprise to system J25?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Intresting idea....I never considered the possibility of Q nabbing the Borg too.... Still, If that's the case, it means that Q intended the distance of the J system to act as a buffer of a year or so between the Fed and the cube. He's basically leaving humanity's chances of survival at zero.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Well, he wasn't, since humanity wasn't wiped out.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"They don't even have any characters on the main cast! "
Hmm.
Hmm.
They have the, erh, semi-recurring G'karmalak! Yeah. If he can stand up to Picard, then he could stand up to the Borg any day. B)
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: How do we not know that Q brough BOTH the cube and the Enterprise to system J25?
Planets in the region had already been Borg-scooped. There's no reason to assume that Q brought the Borg to the area and let them go play while he went to bother the Enterprise (preparing to bring them to the Borg), given the Borg habit of boldly going to assimilate what they haven't assimilated before.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
So, uh, the Borg were floating around that same sector ... what? Looking for a city they might have forgotten to scoop up?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Possibly they were integrating a few million tons of "scooped" materials into the cube itself, accounting for that cube's larger size and diffrent appearance. Plus, that cube had the cool ability to physically repair itself (something overlooked in Voyager) so mabye it's technology was unique.
Or mabye they were just "full" fromall that scooping (picutre of Borg Queen in Al Bundy pose on a couch).
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Or mabye they were just "full" fromall that scooping (picutre of Borg Queen in Al Bundy pose on a couch).
LOL! Would Janeway be Peggy Bundy?
I guess that would leave 7 of 9 as Kelly and Harry Kim as Bud Bundy. Would Neelix be Buck?
B'Lanna and Tom as Marci and Steve? Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Someone should really Photoshop that scene, Andrew.
Posted by WizArtist (Member # 1095) on :
I swear I'm going to do a cartoon of Apu from the Simpsons borgified and call it "Seven of Eleven"
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Chakotay would be Steve and Paris would be Jefferson. Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Chocolate-Day would be Siegfried and Paris should be Roy.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: I hate to do this:
quote:Originally posted by Lee: Strangely enough, it all sort-of fits, and finally replaces the "the Borg didn't know about the Federation until them met the E-D" theory that got scuppered by Generations and "Dark Frontier" (to pick one of several eps that screwed our perceptions of the timeline about).
Or, say, "The Neutral Zone", which has the Borg scooping up several Federation colony worlds along the Neutral Zone.
I suppose we actually have to come up with a reason why THAT cube never wandered over to the Federation proper. Did the colony's not have any information on Earth? Unlikely, considering that every Federation computer seems to have information on everything from the dawn of time. Was their mission just to attack the Neutral Zone? Possible, and the Borg are a bit simple minded, so they possibly wouldn't have deviated from that until the Collective had had time to analyse the data.
Personally, I think that the "Neutral Zone" cube got there by accident. A wormhole, or something. And then fell into another wormhole immedietly after.
Or, maybe, just maybe, Q had already decided to teach humanity a lesson by showing them that they weren't aware of what was out there, so he bought a cube into Federation space for a bit, and then sent it back, hoping perhaps that the devestation would cause Starfleet to pull it's collective finger out. That didn't really work, so he then tried an alternative approach of sending the Enterprise to them.
when you say, "Neutral zone" are you refering to TNG time frame ....or TOS? i'd like to know because of a related querry. there was book published years ago that said that the TOS's planet killer was a foe of the borg. if your refering to borg mischieft in the NZ during TOS, where was the Planet Killers location and flight path compared to the NZ and by extention the delta quadrant?
or are you thinking TNG thus neatly putting 20, 456 pin holes with a needle the size of New Jersey into my teddy bear idea? Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Clearly he's thinking TNG. Look at the context of the message. Did YOU see any Borg in TOS? He's referring to the Borg cube which scooped up Federation outposts on the Romulan Neutral Zone in the episode "The Neutral Zone" ... which I believe he does in fact mention.
Newbies ... can't converse with 'em, can't kill 'em ... Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Now, now, go easy on Anime Boy. He was only recycling. B)
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay:
Newbies ... can't converse with 'em, can't kill 'em ...
We'll see what Charles has to say about that...
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cartman: Now, now, go easy on Anime Boy. He was only recycling. B)
lordy! "anime boy"? well i guess there are worse fates. still, you guys didnt't answer the question about the plant killer and it's flightpath. think it's possible it had something to do with the borg?
and not that note, since i'm currently bored & currently listening to Motley Crue, does V'ger have anything to do with the borg or the price of teabagings in the sex trade industry in thailand?
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