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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Krenim</b> <br /><small>Member # 22</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,8,23,19,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 23, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:45 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The second episode of <i>Star Trek: Discovery</i> should be released on CBS's streaming service on Sunday, September 24. Spoilers for the first two episodes <i>only</i>, please. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Spike</b> <br /><small>Member # 322</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,8,25,16,5,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 25, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:05 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I think this episode featured more Starfleet vessels than the entire run of TOS. ;-)<br /><br />Too bad we didn't get a better look. The space scenes were either too chaotic or too close up. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Shik</b> <br /><small>Member # 343</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,8,25,17,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 25, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:02 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> They were ugly, all but Shenzhou & that one big one. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Spike</b> <br /><small>Member # 322</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,8,25,17,15,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 25, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:15 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> From the closed cap:<br />USS Clarke<br />USS Shran<br />USS T'Plana Hath<br />USS Kerala<br />USS Sue<br />USS Rye<br />USS Earhart<br />USS Dana<br />USS Edison<br />USS Yeager<br />USS Europa NCC-1648<br /><br />And they all looked better than the Discovery. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>o2</b> <br /><small>Member # 907</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,8,26,6,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 26, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:21 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I believe it is the USS Sioux and the USS Ride (after Sally Ride - would make a nice couple with the USS Earhart).<br /><br />Too bad we don't get registries for them or a class name... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>o2</b> <br /><small>Member # 907</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,8,26,6,25,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 26, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:25 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Did you noticed: <br /><br />We've got Nebula-class-style, NX-class-style, Stargazerr-class-style and Centaur/Reliant-class-style starships, or at least the pre-TOS version of it. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Spike</b> <br /><small>Member # 322</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,8,26,8,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 26, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:09 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The Shenzhou was a Walker-class starship. This was known beforehand from insider sources, but also established in the episode as the dedication plaque was quite visible in one shot.<br /><br />The court martial at the end of the episode was a bit ridiculous with all the judges in the shadows.<br /><br />And it kind of bothers me that they can't keep their ranks straight, not even for their main characters. It's Tuvok all over again. Saru was first addressed as Lieutenant while wearing a Lt. Cmdr. pin. And later they refered to him as Lt. Cmdr. while actually wearing a Lt. JG pin. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Zipacna</b> <br /><small>Member # 1881</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,8,26,18,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 26, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:26 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Spike:<br />And it kind of bothers me that they can't keep their ranks straight, not even for their main characters. It's Tuvok all over again. Saru was first addressed as Lieutenant while wearing a Lt. Cmdr. pin. And later they refered to him as Lt. Cmdr. while actually wearing a Lt. JG pin. [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I say they demoted him between the scenes for being such a negative influence on shipboard morale. By next week he'll be Ensign Runaway! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Brown_supahero</b> <br /><small>Member # 83</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,8,27,1,47,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 27, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:47 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yay! People participate on this forum. I’m sick of trekbbs <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Shik</b> <br /><small>Member # 343</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,8,27,21,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 27, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:42 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yeah, TrekBBS is full of some real cockfaces. I shared my project over there & all they focused on was my statement that I wouldn't let anyone alter my timeline layout; for that, they called me "Dixonesque". <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lee</b> <br /><small>Member # 393</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,9,1,18,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 01, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:19 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The fuckers! We can't let that lie. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Shik</b> <br /><small>Member # 343</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,9,1,21,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 01, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:04 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Ahhh, Lee, how I've missed your Sahara-like wit. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lee</b> <br /><small>Member # 393</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,9,1,22,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 01, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:04 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I screengrabbed a couple of shots of the fleet, each ship present looks to be of a different class. None of them seem familiar, but as others have said there are clear Nebula and Constellation configurations present. In the forward shot where they're all coming out of warp, in the top right it looks like there's a ship that could be another of USS Europa's class, but we know the Europa wouldn't arrive until later; it makes sense they'd re-use the design file after all. Chances are closer examination will reveal other class duplications, but it could be we're seeing as many as six new shoip designs. First Contact? Amateurs in comparisong with their poxy four designs! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Shik</b> <br /><small>Member # 343</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,9,2,2,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 02, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:54 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Something I forgot to mention: life imprisonment for mutiny is extremely excessive. At most, it should be 10 to 20 given the circumstances. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lee</b> <br /><small>Member # 393</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,9,4,7,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 04, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:45 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Especially since she pled guilty. But then she did start an interstellar war, so who knows? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>becky</b> <br /><small>Member # 2187</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2017,9,30,16,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 30, 2017</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:50 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Krenim:<br /><strong> The second episode of <i>Star Trek: Discovery</i> should be released on CBS's streaming service on Sunday, September 24. Spoilers for the first two episodes <i>only</i>, please. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Opening monologue, first officer speaks too fast and does not enunciate, TOS,TNG,DS9 VOY and ent had officers with impeccable enunciation. It gets a little better in the actual acting of the episode. Character introduction scenes. Walking around on sand during a storm to make a starfleet logo?! To allow the ship to find them?! Heard of trackers,heard of flares carried by hikers and the army?<br /><br /> Doesn't make any sense, away team always has coordinates to be at to be beamed up. Main character is shown joining the crew out of vulcan. You do not become a starfleet officer out of a vulcan school, you need to go to starfleet academy and earn your commission. Sending First officer in a suit through an asteroid field... to investigate an alien artifact which scrambles telemetry? What they don't have probes ?<br /><br />The helmsmen get totally ignored.<br /><br /> This is start trek, surely the brilliant science officer can speculate on why the signal gets jammed and find a solution or discover Klingons are behind it thus moving the plot forward or justifying sending someone there. Sending the first officer in an asteroid field without plausible cause is an necessary risk. No starfleet officer, let alone a captain would act so recklessly. Klingon warrior happening to be in a space suit already on the hull of the Klingon artifact? Klingons speaking in klingons the entire time. It's a tv show Klingon could speak in english for the audience like they do in all Star trek TV shows. It's one thing to have a couple of dialogues in Klingons (and preferably without subtitles)but no need to have 15 ,minute long talks about honor forcing people to read cheap looking subtitles.<br /><br />It was very labored speaking.<br /><br />Klingons without facial hair is a sin, they look like cheap Prometheus movie aliens. Klingons armors are not practical for a fight they can cut and hurt themselves moving around or falling in them. The klingons wear soo much makeup and prosthetic the actors can't even talk properly. (try speaking klingon with a potato in your mouth) First officer leaving the sickbay in the middle of radiation therapy? What they don't have communication system on that ship? The entire premise of striking first ... to earn respect? Coming from someone raise by Vulcans!? And having Vulcans have been striking first at Klingons!? Is actually an insult to what the Vulcans are and what logic dictates.<br /><br />Think about it if you see a klingon ship fire at it!!!!! And it will fire back killing you?<br /><br /> When the ships battle I got reminded of Garibaldi firing his pistol in Babylon 5. PHIST...PISHT.....PISHT. It was wrong to use that sound effect. The battle lacked any pacing and was awful.The Europa arrives and is quickly destroyed by a colliding with huge Klingon ship which parks in front of it! SO STUPID. The Klingon ships looked like indistinct blobs and badly lit.Cutlery and barnacles.The beams looked laser pen beams. When wounded officer talks to Burnham in the brig the battle mysteriously stops.He should be in sickbay.I thought he might release Burnham. You can not be Vulcan and prone striking first against an adversary you know next to nothing about. Sarek's quote after Michael say she killed a klingon 'It is only fair that you hurt them after what they did to your parents' Like .. What? Klingons murdered my parents therefore killing any klingon is fair? Who in the writing room thought that is what Vulcan philosophy and Sarek's teaching are about? A Starfleet officer, a commander ... advocating strike first ask questions later? No, no starfleet officer would do that, maybe under extreme circumstances, but earning respect is not one of them, that action is completely out of character. Incapacitating the captain and getting on the bridge as if nothing happened, outwardly lying to all the bridge crew .... definitely not starfleet officer behavior. Starfleet bridge crew member saying 'we are explorers .. not warriors' Seriously? Starfleet is a military organization, Ships are equipped to defend themselves and officers get tactical training and are prepared for the eventuality of a battle. Main character having ethical debate with the computer... The entire half gets destroy but somehow the brig's forcefield expands ... And then she negotiates being ejected in space... Physically not possible the entire thing is just show off. Star trek is not about stunts. The captain takes back the mutineer officer? God that is impossible and out of character for a starfleet captain. Then they lead a 2 person away mission to capture the klingon leader? As If Klingons negotiate ... Here again , there are no valid tactical justification for these action and having the captain leave the ship during battle is a breach of starfleet protocol. let alone both the captain and the first officer at the same time and with no one else? Blindly teleporting into the Klingon ship.... Oh yes and apparently that first officer gets sentenced to life in prison but is going to serve as an officer again coming episode 3? This show might be entertaining if you overlook how starfleet officers are expect to behave and act. Discover definitely has some some nice visual effects and is packed it action but it misses what makes star trek, star trek. It lacks soul. First two episodes. I honestly hated it. Saw it on Netflix first two episodes and; the special effects were great, there story was great. But the rest... blaaahhhh!. The actors were badly mis cast, there was so much over acting just embarrassing. On the bridge just over talking everything. Doug Jones annoying as hell. The Captain came across as weak and ridiculous and holding no authority what so ever. That the first officer knocks her out and tries to take command was kind of a moment but also a WTF what sort of Star Trek officer does this. The Klingons spoke annoyingly slowly, where racist all black, had the complexions of gummy bears, dressed like effeminate courtiers from some medieval show but where supposed to be tough? I doubt it. Two women go to capture 200 kilogram Klingons...<br /><br />First two episodes. I honestly hated it. Saw it on Netflix first two episodes and; the special effects were awful, there story was dreadful. But the rest... blaaahhhh!. The actors were badly mis cast, there was so much over acting just embarrassing.<br /><br /> On the bridge just over talking everything. Doug Jones annoying as hell. The Captain came across as weak and ridiculous and holding no authority what so ever.<br /><br /> That the first officer knocks her out and tries to take command was kind of a yay moment but also a WTF what sort of Star Trek officer does this. The Klingons spoke annoyingly slowly, where racist all black, had the complexions of gummy bears, dressed like effeminate courtiers from some medieval show but where supposed to be tough? I doubt it. F'ing fail for the whole show.<br /><br />No wonder at the last moment, after filming these horrible episodes, they brought in the always great Jason Isaacs to maybe give some clarity to this shit fest. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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