Again, I overall liked this episode, but there's some stuff that doesn't mesh well with what we already know from previous series.
Hugh is the director of the Artifact. Nifty.
So we're getting more odd stuff concerning the Romulans and the Borg. We find that all of the Artifact's "disordered" are Romulan ex-Borg. Hugh says that these were the only Romulans ever assimilated by the Borg. But we've seen at least one other Romulan ex-Borg on Voyager that certainly didn't have these kinds of issues. On top of that, while we never saw it, it was implied the Borg were assimilating Romulan outposts as far back as TNG Season 1.
On top of that, it's heavily implied that assimilating the Romulans is what disabled the Artifact cube in the first place; which is only strengthening my belief that the whole "Romulans are Vulcan Cylons" theory is right.
Commodore Oh is described as Vulcan, so at least that's what the galaxy at large thinks. She might still be Romulan, though. Whether Vulcan or Romulan, her wearing shades seemed weird.
I love the interaction between the cynical Santiago and his upbeat ENH.
Laris and Zhaban continue to be awesome, especially Laris. I'm wondering if her dig at Zhaban being a "northerner" is a Doctor Who reference. ("Lots of planets have a north!") Also, is that meant to explain why some Romulans have foreheads (Zhaban) and some don't (Laris)?
Romulan acid spit again.
Dr. Jurati is so obviously a mole for Commodore Oh.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
“Romulans are Vulcan Cylons”
That makes me wonder just who was responsible for Romulus’s destruction. If the Vulcans did it, that would be ironic since a Romulan destroyed Vulcan in an alternate universe...
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
That supposes that it has a cause other than "star ran out of hydrogen". I know, I've been playing STO for years now, which does have the supernova be artificially triggered. I have to keep telling myself that, while it was the closest thing to an official continuation of the timeline for the longest time, it ultimately is non-canon.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Why does the ENH have a shitty Irish accent?
Yeah, she's a mole. Probably led the team there, & she's the backup if they couldn't kill him.
"Freecloud". Sounds like a data planet. Raffi's probably some kinda biotech junkie now or some such.
The "mystery girl" shit can stop already. We already know what's going on, & it's being done so poorly, so bad.
Three episodes in & this show is already grating on me. Nothing is telling a story, it's just dropping weirdities like X-Files. Also, this future sucks. Everyone's broken or hopeless or twirling their fucking mustaches. The only interesting people are Laris & Zhaban.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
There were a couple of things I just found weird in this episode, like the sunglasses, smoking cigars and vaping.
They did a poor job on the new old Starfleet uniforms. Raffi looked like she was going to a Cosplay convention.
40 Eridani A and Beta Antares ship yards are mentioned.
After 3 episodes I think I rather prefer Starfleet-centered Trek shows.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
quote:Originally posted by Spike: There were a couple of things I just found weird in this episode, like the sunglasses, smoking cigars and vaping.
Here’s my theory about the sunglasses (not that I think this is at all what the writers have come up with): between the Countdown comic dealing with the Romulans not wanting to evacuate their slave races from the supernova, the hypothesis that Oh is responsible for the attack on Utopia Planitia, and that she wears anachronistic sunglasses when meeting Jurati, all signs point to her being a Reman in disguise.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
Or she's from the Mirror Universe.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
quote:Originally posted by Spike: Or she's from the Mirror Universe.
Yep, that’s far more likely. Either that, or it was just for some silly effect.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Or it was just sunny out.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
I didn't like Raffi at all... especially when she kept calling Picard "JL".
I don't know if calling it "modernizing" is the right word...presenting 24th century humans like people here in 2020. Things like smoking, even vaping, a sailor style mermaid tat. I think it's the first time we've seen someone wear sunglasses in Star Trek. Which isn't a bad thing, after all why would people stop protecting their eyes from the sun in the future.
But hey, who didn't love hearing Picard say "engage".
Romulans spit acid and still no explanation for that? I thought maybe it was some kind of acid pill they're biting down on maybe.
Why is it when they show Earth there aren't a ton of ships or space stations? It's the capital planet of the Federation and location of Starfleet headquarters, you'd think there'd be a lot of space traffic around Earth.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
I bet we'll be seeing someone give the finger before the season ends.
quote:Why is it when they show Earth there aren't a ton of ships or space stations?
So that in a case of emergency, the Enterprise is the only ship nearby to save the day.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
quote:Originally posted by Shik: Or it was just sunny out.
Vulcans have those inner eyelids, remember? They don’t need sunglasses.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
I think Oh is half-Vulcan. Maybe she didn't get that part.
Posted by 137th Gebirg (Member # 2692) on :
^^^ A VERY good point. I’d like to think they didn’t forget about that little detail, and that the sunglasses are significant in some way, but...
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Or she’s actually Mirror Georgie-Oh in disguise, back from the 33rd century or whatnot.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Was it just me, or did Raffi seem to imply that she was living in a shack in the middle of nowhere not by choice? When she showed up at the end of the last episode, I assumed she was supposed to be some sort of "off the grid" type who had decided to go live in a trailer in the desert. But then she was all "you get to live on an estate, but my house is a hovel", and I'm wondering "Then why don't you move somewhere else? This is the Earth of Star Trek. It's a post-capitalist, post-scarcity society that has been repeatedly held up as a 'paradise' (even in episodes that make a point out of the fact that not all parts of the Federation are). If you want a nicer house, have someone replicate one for you."
I guess it's one more thing to add to the list of exhibits in the case for "these people just want to make a sci-fi show of their own design, and don't really care about making it fit into the Trek universe that's been established over decades".
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Yeah, that bothered me, too.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Well, no matter how unrestricted the energy, there are still finite resources and finite land. And you have to be part of the system. Couldn’t she be both? Off the grid, but not entirely by choice.
It does seem extreme though, and would be incredibly petty. I have to wonder if something else happened to get her kicked out of Starfleet too. Sure, when JL (sigh) got shown the door she lost her post as his aide, but surely the fleet admiral wasn’t so callous as to force her all the way out because of Picard alone?
As an aside, I think it’s funny that we are confronted with another “celebrity paradox” like with the Space Shuttle Enterprise in TMP. Raffi lives at the actual Vasquez Rocks, which look suspiciously identical to many other rock formations around the galaxy... Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Hodgkin strikes again.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Oh, I forgot to mention : It would have been nice if the scene between the Romulan Wonder Twins had been a little less bordering-on-incest-y.
Edit : I also forgot another thing. Why, when Picard boards Rios' ship, is he dressed like my grandpa?
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