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targetemployee
Member # 217
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Background In the last three years, there have been three sci-fi movies or series where a crew member controlled a ship with a joy stick. They are: Galaxy Quest, Farscape, and Insurrection. Enterprise Enterprise is now joining this group. Along with the joy stick, we have a steering wheel. "Steady and straight"-Capt. Archer Source: TrekToday
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Hobbes
Member # 138
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Helm: "Watch me fishtail this bitch Cap'n!"
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Siegfried
Member # 29
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Where's the picture of the steering wheel?
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targetemployee
Member # 217
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The steering wheel was seen by visitors to the set of the bridge yesterday.
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TSN
Member # 31
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In the past fifty years, there have been probably hundreds of sci-fi shows and movies that involve a spaceship of some sort. Uh-oh. ENT has one of those. Damn them!
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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
Member # 646
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But TSN, even you have to admit that the joystick in Insurrection was just plain dumb, and a steering wheel is...even more so.
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The_Tom
Member # 38
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Well, Enterprise has both, so that makes it double-dumb...
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TSN
Member # 31
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The joystick in Insurrection was dumb because it was nothing but a store-bought computer joystick, and it just popped straight up out of the floor on a four-foot-tall pedestal. There was nothing wrong w/ the joystick in Galaxy Quest, though.Besides, joysticks and steering wheels are useful means of navigation. That's why we use them. As long as they don't look goofy (like in Insurrection), I don't see the problem.
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HappyTarget
Member # 670
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Yah, I mean what the heck was up with that? Did the Writers and Executives go to the special effects department and say we need a joystick for the enterprise in "Insurection", what do you got? Then the SFX guys looked aroud blankly for a second or two. Then one got a flash of insight. "I got a great stick for ya, use it every night on my own pc, ill bring it over tomorow." And thus stupidity found a home! If you want to use a joystick (silly, but fine by me) at least attempt to modify it a bit. Maby it was a product plug, like some movies get paid money by cola companies to use their product in the movie. Still silly though.
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Siegfried
Member # 29
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I'm still trying to figure out the need for a steering wheel, though. I mean, it can be of some use for sublight speeds and thruster maneuvers, but at warp speed that's not a very useful device. Accidentally bump into the damn thing and the ship warps into a sun. Plus, the only real way I can see this steering wheel being useless at sublight speed is if it has an airplane's steering control; you know, turns left and right and pulls in and out.By the way, Hobbes, that is one of the funniest things I've read all night. [ July 17, 2001: Message edited by: Siegfried ]
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Aban Rune
Member # 226
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Hobbes: ROTFLMAO!!
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Dukhat
Member # 341
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Hopefully the steering wheel will be just a Tom Paris/Delta Flyer type gadget that serves no purpose except for just set decoration.And once the gimmick wears off, it'll probably be gone after a few episodes (hopefully along with Porthos). [ July 18, 2001: Message edited by: Dukhat ]
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Omega
Member # 91
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Don't forget Andromeda. It has joysticks.
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Mr. Christopher
Member # 71
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And Chang's ship from TUC. It had a steering wheel.
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Stingray
Member # 621
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And Starship Troopers had a 747 style wheel/joystick controller thinger, IIRC
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Wes1701E
Member # 212
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I do belive the Joystick in Insurrection wasnt meant to be taken that seriously. I think it was just a little joke to keep up with the lighter feel of the movie even durring a battle. Its placement was meant to look goofy.
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Sol System
Member # 30
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It's a good thing no real vessel is controlled by anything as silly as a wheel.
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Siegfried
Member # 29
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Well, Sol, we're comparing submarines with starships. Submarines are more sluggish, travel slower, and travel through a thicker medium than a starship. A steering wheel is feasible for submarines, cars, and planes. For a starship though? As I said above, maybe for sublight but not for warp.On the other hand, I'm not so sure that pic is for real. That middle seaman has what looks to be a cup a Starbucks sitting in the console cupholder.
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AndrewR
Member # 44
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I don't know about anyone else, but my steering wheel, in my car - doesn't allow me to go in the z-axis... nor even in the y-axis - the acceleratrix and the velocitator does that. ;o)AANNNNNNDDDD my car doesn't go in the x-axis directly - it does a TURN... why would a space-ship need to do a three-point-turn in space!?! Why a long arc!?! Thisi si such a dumb gimmicy idea. Maybe they are gathering as many fan annoyances from Voyager and Insurrection and using them in Enterprise (plus that is a STUUPPID name for a title... get ORIGINAL please) Deep Space Nine - fair enough... but then VOYAGER and then ENTERPRISE - getting old.
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Sol System
Member # 30
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What would you prefer they call it? Eric Spiegelman's Incredible Racing Adventure?
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TSN
Member # 31
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What makes you think the steering wheel is going to be something that the helmsmen keeps both hands on in the 10:00 and 2:00 positions while using it to make turns? It;s entirely possible that it serves some real purpose while looking like a steering wheel.After all, the other ships are flown w/ buttons. In a car, buttons control the radio, heater/air conditioning, and open the trunk. Is that therefore what the buttonson the E-D helm controls must do, also?
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Siegfried
Member # 29
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Personally, I always assumed that some of the helm buttons on the Enterprise-D led to secret computer files of Wesley Crusher's porn collection.
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DeadCujo
Member # 13
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We don't know for sure that it's a steering wheel, maybe it's some sort of gauge or a release for something. Like something they'd have on a submarine to seal the doors. But maybe I'm wrong and it is in fact a steering wheel. How lame. :-\
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Siegfried
Member # 29
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DeadCujo, according to TrekWeb the steering wheel is next to a joystick on the helm console. So it looks like it is for flight control and not as a valve or door-lock mechanism. I dunno, maybe they'll make it fit in and work okay. If not, the helm station can be engulfed in explosions in a future episode and be replaced with a new module minus the wheel.
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