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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ryan McReynolds: [QB] [QUOTE]From "Bounty" [qb]T'POL: I'm not ill. PHLOX: These are hardly normal readings. T'POL: They're normal for a Vulcan in my condition. PHLOX: You know what's wrong with you? T'POL: It's not something we discuss with others. PHLOX: I believe it's time for you to amend that policy. You have my assurance it will remain between us. T'POL: We call it the [i]pon farr[/i], the cycle of mating. PHLOX: Have you gone through this before? T'POL: It's not time. PHLOX: It's possible the infection acted as a catalyst. T'POL: What caused it doesn't matter. If I don't mate with a male, Vulcan or otherwise, I'll die.[/qb][/QUOTE]So, yeah, [i]pon farr[/i] it is. While there has never been a mention of females entering [i]pon farr[/i] before, there has also never been a mention of them not. [QUOTE]From "Fusion" [qb]KOV: Vulcan males are driven to mate once every seven years.[/qb][/QUOTE]Now, Kov was male and talking to two human males, so he wasn't neccessarily saying females don't have the drive. Alternately, perhaps the male's drive triggers the female telepathically, through their childhood bond. In any case, as we see below, this was actually the only time anyone specified a gender... [QUOTE]From "Amok Time" [qb]SPOCK: We shield it with a ritual... and customs shrouded in antiquity. You humans have no conception. It strips our minds from us. It brings a madness which rips away... our veneer of civilization. It is the [i]pon farr[/i]: the time of mating. There are precedents in nature, Captain; the giant eel-birds of Regulus Five, once each 11 years... they must return to the caverns where they hatched. On your earth, the salmon... they must return to that one stream... where they were born... to spawn... or die in trying. KIRK: But you're not a fish, Mr. Spock. You're-- SPOCK: No. Nor am I man. I'm a Vulcan. I'd hoped I would be spared this, but the ancient drives are too strong. Eventually, they catch up with us, and we are driven by forces we cannot control... to return home and take a wife... or die.[/qb][/QUOTE]Spock, in the original [i]pon farr[/i] episode, never says it is a male-only drive. T'Pring had probably already had sex with Stonn, explaining her calm at the [i]koon-ut kal-if-fee[/i]. [QUOTE]From "The Cloud Minders" [qb]DROXINE: You only take a mate once every seven years? SPOCK: The seven-year cycle... is biologically inherent in all Vulcans. At that time, the mating drive outweighs all other motivations. DROXINE: And is there nothing that can disturb that cycle, Mr. Spock? SPOCK: Extreme feminine beauty... is always... disturbing, madam.[/qb][/QUOTE]Not exactly a high point of the series, but Spock does explicitly say that [i]pon farr[/i] affects [i]all[/i] Vulcans. [QUOTE]From "Blood Fever" [qb]DOCTOR: You're going through the Pon farr, aren't you? VORIK: That's an extremely personal question, Doctor. DOCTOR: Yes, I'm aware that Vulcans prefer to keep their mating practices very much to themselves. There's almost nothing in the medical database beyond a few observations made by Starfleet doctors over the years. Your symptoms, the chemical imbalance and loss of emotional control are consistent with those observations. Have you been eating and sleeping normally? VORIK: I knew there was something wrong. I was hoping it wasn't this. DOCTOR: I assume this is your first Pon farr? There's nothing to be embarrassed about. It's a normal biological function. I'll do what I can to help you through it, but I'll need a little more information. VORIK: We do not discuss it. DOCTOR: I'm afraid you'll have to. You have a severe imbalance in your brain chemistry. If it gets much worse, it could become life threatening. Now I need to know how Vulcans deal with this condition. VORIK: We go home. Every seven years of our adult life, Vulcans experience an instinctual irresistible urge to return to the homeworld and take a mate.[/qb][/QUOTE]Again, Vorik says that Vulcans in general feel the drive, not only males. [QUOTE]From [i]Star Trek III: The Search for Spock[/i] [qb]Saavik: [i]Pon farr[/i]. Vulcan males must endure it every seventh year of their adult life.[/qb][/QUOTE]This is similar to the Kov statement above. Saavik was explaining to David what was happening to Spock, a male. It was probably a mistake, though, by someone who didn't see "The Cloud Minders." I don't know if there was ever a Tuvok [i]pon farr[/i] episode, but if there was, I don't have the script, closed captions, or a transcript, so I'm afraid I can't dig up any quotes. :D [/QB][/QUOTE]
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