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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JeffKardde: [QB] With the rank of [b][i]Sub[/i]-Commander[/b]? Since when has [i]Sub-Commander[/i] been a Starfleet rank? Really, the people making that argument need to read what they're bashing first. No she's not a member of Starfleet, she's a Vulcan science officer (that is, a member of Vulcan's space-going fleet), who happens to be serving as Science Officer aboard the [i]Enterprise[/i]. I'd say T'Pau is as much a member of Starfleet as [i]Major[/i] (or Colonel) Kira Nerys was. And yes, I'd say she's the same T'Pau we'd later see in both [i]Amok Time[/i] and [i]Star Trek III: The Search for Spock[/i]. Remember: Vulcans live a VERY long time. There was an "Ensign Janeway" in an episode of [i]The Next Generation[/i], but did people use that to bash the concept of [i]Voyager[/i] as fake when the captain's name was introduced as Janeway? (Keep in mind: it was originally going to be Elizabeth or Nicole Janeway, and was changed when Bujold left). So the simple fact that "Phlox" has been used before doesn't hold much water, I 'spect. Also: these things change, just because the dude's name is Phlox know doesn't mean it will be when the show goes to air. Remember: Julian Bashir was originaly Julian Amorros. So what about the Comm Officer's name? I know a couple of girls named "Crystal", I don't see whats so strange about someone named "Star"! Yes, I would say Admirals Forrest, Leonard, and Cmdr. Williams are a "tip o' the hat" to the "big three" of TOS. And that yes, even Tos the Vulcan is another tip of the hat. This is nothing new: Gene Roddenberry named "Geordi LaForge" after a Trek fan! Keep in mind, those four characters above are slotted for the pilot only, then they're gone and we probably don't see them again. And those names could well be changed, although I think Admiral Forrest needs to STAY Admiral Forrest in tribute to DeForrest, who sadly died. <small>And did anyone notice that these characters are named in the opposite rank order from the characters? Cmdr. Williams = Will Shatner (who played Kirk), is the lowest rank; Adm. Leonard = Leonard Nimoy (Spock), is the middle rank of the three; and Adm. Forrest = DeForrest (who played McCoy, lowest ranked of the 3), is the highest Admiral in Starfleet!</small> Those arguments don't mean anything, and they're not proof that this info isn't valid. They're just nitpicking, a lot of which don't hold up to anything. I mean, christ, who the devil mistakes [i]sub-commander[/i] for a Starfleet rank? Good god! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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