, just to see what everyone would like to see in the next movie. DS9 characters (besides Worf of course)? Romulans?I would tend to aggree with what Patrick Stewart said he wanted in a past interview, a kind of sequel of Insurrection. That would mean the next movie would deal with some kind of corruption in Starfleet, or the Federation abandoning its original principles, and the crew of the Enterprise there to fight for Federation beliefs. I think this kind of story line has a lot of potential (for a good story plus lots of action), and would fit in nicely with what's been happening over at DS9, and it would also provide a good opportunity to introduce some DS9 characters (especially Bashir with Section 31).
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"Sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you."
-Commander Riker, USS Enterprise
Star Trek: (pretty nifty title, i don;t know what))
Voice over..."On the eve of a great return...."
View of a bunch of starships flying into formation
voice over....".....a great discovery....."
All of this light stuff coming out of this sphere thingy
"will change the galaxy...."
a bunch of people standing in fr0nt of a big building
"for good"
a cheering crowd
"or for bad"
night time, that same big building explodes
"a threat is coming to the final frontier"
this alien army comes of of the sphere
"that cannot be stopped"
picard looks all worried at something, we don;t see what
the federation council president, in front of the council, shot down by some type of energy beam
"On december 10th, 2000, the threat is com9ing"
picard, to the federation council "it must be stopped"
one of those alien dudes "we can not be beaten"
the alienb arym marching
picard "no!"
troi "I feel...anger!"
data "it..."
bunch of laser beams and stuff
data "...is..."
a federation fleet with all of its ships burning
data "...coming..."
more buildings expldiong, protestors screaming as the lasers split them apart, the council stadning, the fleet attacking some other ships, the symbol of the UFP...
alien soldier "victory is ours"
the UFP symbol starting to burn
well, that';s the preview. The story wpoudl go something like this.....
A federation exp[edition (that big fleet flying in formation) returns from the large magelantic cloud, a nearby galaxy (the fleet got there using transwarp drive). picard and the enterprise come to earth to greet them back. the fleet presents this weird diuscovery (that sphere of light) to the federation council. The enterprise stays near earth along with the expedition fleet, kinda looking over stuff and going to parades, because this expedition was pretty famous with the common federation citizens. Suddenly, there is an anouncement: the federation council is turing control of the federation over to these alines, who starts coming out of the sphere. Starfleet doesn;t do anything, they're all in agreement with the council. federation citizens protest, but they are shot down by eoither starfleet or the aliens. The enterprise deosn;t know what to do. They seem to be the only starfleeet ship that isnp;t very happy. cause, see, for a long time, the enterprise has been on an expedition to the center of the galaxy (they were using the slipstream drive). So the enterprise now goes and hides with this rebelion of federation citizens. They find out that, for a long time, these aliens have knwon about the federation and have been trying to take it over. They engineered that whole ba'ku oncoident in "insurection" because thhey wanted those strange particle thingys. Anyway, starfleet comes and destoys the little rebelion thingy. The enterprise sneeks back to earth, and finbds out that th alines have blown up the fedceration council, which was only giving power to the aliens to save the people of the federation. The enterpirse sets up a secret rebellion on earth. The enterprise then coordiantes rebellions on all of the federation wortlds. Just as the alines are about to kill every federation citizen to make room for their own colonization, the federartion rebels, and the day is saved.
Kinda nifty, but probabably too dark......
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"How many people does it
take before it becomes
wrong? 6,000? 60,000?
How many people does it
take admiral!?!" -Ambassador
Picard during his command
of the Enterprise-E in the
Ba'ku incident.
I've also wanted to see about the Magellanic Clouds on Star Trek. I'm sure there's someone there.
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Ah... Now I enter these hallowed halls a conqueror... Yes...
-Megatron, "The Agenda, Part Three"
Also, in the star trek universe, humanoids are abundant in the galaxy because one "mother race" of humanoids created all of the other humanoids. The magelantic clouds may not include decendants of this mother race, meaning that there would be room for different, truly alien spieces to develop.
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"How many people does it
take before it becomes
wrong? 6,000? 60,000?
How many people does it
take admiral!?!" -Ambassador
Picard during his command
of the Enterprise-E in the
Ba'ku incident.
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I know engineers - they love to change things. (McCoy, STTMP)
www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/
Star Trek: Dominion Wars
How does that sound???
*puts a helmet on his head and hides*
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"Those that can, do. Those that can't, laugh at those who can do."
- Xander from 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer'
Good teaser trailer, but it'll never happen. Can you say Sphere? Can you say Event Horizon? Can you, in fact, say Thirdspace?
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"I am greater than the stars for I know that they are up there and they do not know that I am down here." - William Temple
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Star Trek: Beyond
Star Trek: Alliance
Star Trek: Millenium
Star Trek: Continuum
Star Trek: Dark Frontier (yes, I know...)
Star Trek: Beta (for the Rommies)
Star Trek: Gamma (for the Dommies)
Star Trek: Dominion
Star Trek: The War
Star Trek: Romulan
Star Trek: The God's Anger
Star Trek: Prophecies
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"The one, the only, THE 359!"
Star Trek: To Seek Out
Star Trek: The Final Frontier (I still beleive Star Trek 5 NEVER HAPPENED, but was just a sick nightmare inplanted in the brains of star trek fans by william shatner)
Star Trek: Voyages
Star Trek: Voyage
Star Trek: Countinuing Mission
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
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"How many people does it
take before it becomes
wrong? 6,000? 60,000?
How many people does it
take admiral!?!" -Ambassador
Picard during his command
of the Enterprise-E in the
Ba'ku incident.
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"Bickering is pointless." - Spock, Miri
"I'm real easy to get along with most of the time, but I don't like bullies, and I don't like threats." - Janeway, State of Flux
Star Trek: Millenium
Star Trek: Continuum
Star Trek: Dark Frontier (yes, I know...)
Star Trek: Dominion
Star Trek: Prophecies
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I actually LIKED Star Trek 5!!!! Yeah, I admit the story was lame, but still I thought certain parts were cool (Spock's boots especially).
Other then Spock's boots, the shuttles, the subtle background humor, and getting to see my favorite starship design, the movie was, well, dumb.
*Beams up to the Sovereign and raises the shields*
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Brandon "Enterprise" Grasmick
Commanding Officer, USS Sovereign (NX-74222)
"Captain, the Sona crew are willing to negotiate a cease fire. It may have something to do with the fact that we have 3 minutes of air left."
-- Worf
Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges
-- In time of war the law falls silent.
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"How many people does it
take before it becomes
wrong? 6,000? 60,000?
How many people does it
take admiral!?!" -Ambassador
Picard during his command
of the Enterprise-E in the
Ba'ku incident.
Ahh dunno, Trek 10. First, new composer. Give Goldsmith a break. Bring back Horner. Or the bloke who did Trek 6. THAT was good, dark music (if a bit Holst's planets). Hmm, possibly Romulans. Better if it could somehow involve both Roms AND Klingons. And maybe the Cardie's as well. For the general public, one extremely well known race, one vaguely known, and one with cool make-up.
And have maybe one or two Ds9 characters in it.
We don't need to worry about Worf. With the end of DS9, he might have a job free.
Keep Frakes. Hes good, cheap, and saves money for SFX.
Bring back ILM.
Have Data's emotion chip
DON't have him doing any more cheesy jokes.
Put the actors on a diet this time before filming. Geordie is beginning to fill Scotty's legendary boots. And tunic.
And aboce all else, haev at least one of those moments. Oneof 'young, I feel young'. Or 'we are here to pay final respects to our honoured dead' or 'For hates sake, I sipt my last breath at thee' (spot a pattern?)
And don't go with Star Trek: Beta for the Romulans. I think the entire world has pretty much agreed that all the maps are wrong, and everyones in the alpha quadrant. Or the Klingons just keep forgetting where they live...
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'It's okay to only know three chords but God, put them in the right order'
-Hank Hill
Composer of the soundtrack for 6 was Cliff Eidelman (I have the CD). As for the soundtrack for #10, well, I'd like to see John Williams write it, but I know it isn't probably going to happen, I hear he's a little busy now Same goes for ILM, they do a lot of great work, and they're doing a ton of it right now, which is the problem, they will be quite preoccupied for a long time to come.
The story is the key, I think. Somebody needs to come up with a brilliant story. Not to say the stories so far have been bad, they've been pretty good. But when I say brilliant story, I mean EPIC, I mean suspense, I mean spanning a quadrant, the federation, with elaborate scenes and SFX to back it up. Something with a big battle royale near the end, perhaps, to flex the muscle of the CGI. Something that could last for three hours, and you'd feel like it had only been five minutes. That's the key.
P.S.: And get those cheapskates at Paramount to front the big bucks for a movie done right the first time.
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"Sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you."
-Commander Riker, USS Enterprise
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"About as useful as a narcoleptic rickshaw driver."
-James Lileks
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What do you mean I'm not kind. Just not you're kind.
--Dave Mustaine
"Peace Sells"
MEGADETH
ST5: Well, and all the odd ones have been sorta different than the even ones. But I remember standing in line for hours on opening night, and wanting my money back later. However, there WERE good parts about it.
Hmmm.... the next movie .... well, I think we need some DS9 characters in there for sure. O'brian, for instance, has never gotten enough credit and needs some, because I think he's an excellent character. And what about Sisko?.. I would like to see him and Picard work together. That might be interesting.
If we're going to bring the cardies into a movie (and I think this is valid since they're the "hot" topic these days) Garak is a must have....
The Romulans have been done. Borg has VERY been done. Klingons have been done. Q I think would be interesting, but it's hard to write a plot based on omnipotent beings that will be valid and cover longer than an hour.
Riker is always good in a movie.... Data's jokes were cute in 8, but in 9 got to be a bit much. Worf is great, and of course we need Geordi.
THE DOCTOR NEEDS A BIGGER PART. Beverly has taken a back-burner for three movies now. Gates McFadden is a good actress and this talent is going to absolute WASTE. I'd also like to see what happend to Ensign Roe (well I know she joined the Maquis, but still, her character was cool).
And I know we all hate Wesley ... but he took off with that time guy and never returned, leaving a plot hole open wide enough for a definite movie return.
As a matter of fact, it would be fun for him to come back and get slapped in the face a few times.
Anyways ..... there's what I think.
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If Galileo had lied to save his life, would America, or the West, or Space have been discovered?
How about
Star Trek: Maquis ??
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If Galileo had lied to save his life, would America, or the West, or Space have been discovered?
Well, the more I think about that, the more it sounds like TNG has already covered that.
Idea 2: Some sort of movie with a "war" style. I think they left the Enterprise action out in Insurrection. Perhaps a return to a First Contact type, except not the Borg. Perhaps the Dominion and Cardassians. Something with more action in it, yet still retains the deeper plot like in Insurrection. Plus, it will be even numbered, so it can't suck. =)
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There's a lady who knows, all that glitters is gold...and she's buying a stairway to heaven. -Led Zeppelin, "Stairway to Heaven"
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"How many people does it
take before it becomes
wrong? 6,000? 60,000?
How many people does it
take admiral!?!" -Ambassador
Picard during his command
of the Enterprise-E in the
Ba'ku incident.
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"The record of my unspeakable crimes, in previous lives, in previous times, indelibly stains the pages of history."
--
They Might Be Giants
The music, after getting the soundtrack is simply wonderful, simply wonderful, it is something that doesn't quite hit you the first time, but later you sit there, and go 'wow'
Some tidbits about Trek 5 - basically William Shatner shot about 2 and a half hours for this film but Harve Bennett cut about 20 mins out including a Sulu and Chekov hiking scene at Mt. Rushmore...
I would have like to see a bit more of that 20 mins, also as some of you know there was the rock monsters that didn't work in the end - so maybe some of this twenty minutes would replace some of the tension at the end of the film, and go towards adding to Sybok's reasonings, his takeover of the ship and possible, making the barrier crossover not as 'quick'
This really is a good, film, and really well done to William, he did provide a wonderful to the whole movie, quite distinctive if you take it and compare it to the rest of the movies...
I just wish they would go and get all the missing footage from all the movies and rerelease them on video for example...
the enormous amounts missing from TMP - its supposedly adds to the whole 'what this movie is about' more illia more sulu/uhura/chekov/chapel more Spock's mind meld with Vejur
We all know about all the editions of TWOK
there was also a Sulu getting his own ship part, where apparently William shatner kept mucking up his lines to make it unusable...
TSFS supposedly has more Genesis parts.
TVH was supposed to have a scene as some of you know where Sulu meets his great grandfather, but the little boy who was supposed to play the part wouldn't act no matter what once the camera's started rolling
TFF as above
TUC supposedly also has cut film according to Michael Dorn - a very Enormous and extravagent parade of all the races at Khitomer. We also know about the Colonel West situation - which has been edited back in.
phew!
ok also, about a Star Trek 10, I feel maybe a DS9 movie now is better than ever, especially with The Star Wars movies being around for a while, basically Star Wars is a movie for all the family to see, with creatures and the such, whereas DS9 could take advantage of its darker, more adult feel and push a trek movie to new boundaries, there is the core audience that would always go to a trek movie, and basically it could be like say Cube, be released in a more limited fashion - have more action, darker feel etc... bascially like what David Lynch couldn't do with Twin Peaks when it was on television - but what he could do with Fire Walk With Me, yes even though this movie didn't do too well at all... I think that has a lot to do, with not a lot of people 'getting it' but we aren't talking about Twin Peaks we are talking about Trek, and I think now is the best time for a full on effects master piece - a Deep Space Nine MOVIE
heh heh thats enough of my preaching there - I'm sure most of you niners out there would agree with me though.
Andrew
gee that was a long post!
heh heh well some times you just can type and type!
Andrew
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