I've been watching the Sci-Fi Channel's "top ten" or "top twenty" best episodes of TOS today, and it struck me that the Enterprise made quite a few sensitive discoveries. Things that the UFP would want to keep quiet. Here are a few off the top of my head.
The Guardian of Forever. Can't have just anyone jumping back and saving Joan Collins. I would imagine the system is offlimits, with access granted to only a select group of researchers.
The Doomsday Machine. Considering that it's made of neutronium, I wonder whether Starfleet could move it. If so, it's probably tucked away at some asteroid research facility somewhere. If not, there would have to be some setup on site. At the very least, you can't have your enemies flying around trying to restart the thing.
Any others, from any series?
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
What about TNG's Dyson Sphere?
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Posted by The Excalibur (Member # 34) on :
Talos IV from "The Menagerie" Organia from"Errand of Mercy Gary Seven from "Assignment:Earth" Zefram Cochrane still alive in "Metamorphosis" The Stolen cloak in "The Enterprise Incident" Genesis project Minos from "The Arsenal of Freedom" Rana IV form "The Survivors"( the alien who could wipe out a spieces with a thought. Admiral Jarok from "The Defector"
I'm a little tired, may come back for more tomorrow. These are listed as possibilities, nothing for sure.
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[This message was edited by The Excalibur on June 01, 1999.]
Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :
Jarok is very very dead as I recall.
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Posted by Cargile (Member # 45) on :
I always thought the Guardian of Forever would make an excellent spin-off story. Something along the lines of "Who Guards the Guardian." Someone does have to keep an eye on it, and I'm sure the Guardian is a persuasive power for illegal use in both the simple knowledge of its power and its coaxing persons to use it. It would be very taunting.
Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :
I agree the Guardian of Forever was a very cool idea and one of the writers should really return to it(preferably one of the Voyager writers, besides how many movies are they going to have that includes going back in time). Yesterday's Enterprise was originally going to include the Guardian but they cut the idea out, which is kind of disappointing even though its still a kickass episode..
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Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :
Obviously the many methods of time travel are also classified. Otherwise Voyager wouldn't have been so stressed about finding Captain Braxton in 1996, insted of just kicking Voyager into overdrive and doing a quick loop around the sun. It also makes sense that disinformation would be spread around about the various theoretical forms of time travel (i.e. none of them work), it would certainly save temporal investigations a lot of time.
Posted by Xentrick (Member # 64) on :
What about the immortal "Mr. Flint" in 'Requiem for Methuselah?'
Hardly "top secret," but not something that would be widely publicized.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Good one. I still like to believe that Micah Brack was responsible for funding Mr. Cochrane's little experiment, even though the rest of "Federation" was contradicted.
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Posted by The Excalibur (Member # 34) on :
Several Star Trek books have included the Guardian. Very good stories for the most part.
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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :
Flint was dying at the end of the ep. . .
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Posted by Aaron the Overlord on :
What about Gary 7? Where did he come from?
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Posted by The Excalibur (Member # 34) on :
I don't think that ever came out. Could make a good Voyager eppy.
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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
The species from "The Survivors" was a Douwd.
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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :
I've got another one. . . it's not strictly canon, but how about the shield modifications used to get through the Great Barrier to the centre of the Galaxy in The Final Frontier? Or the Andromedans' technology that got them out of our Galaxy altogether and en route to their own in "By Any Other Name?"
Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
Star Trek V is canon. Anyone who thinks otherwise should be defenestrated.
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Posted by The Excalibur (Member # 34) on :
?
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
Defenestrated means "thrown out a window."
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
Unfortunately, it's canon. *sighs*
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Posted by The Excalibur (Member # 34) on :
OOOHHHH!!!!! I should a known that!
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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
It's technically impossible to accept some of ST V as canon. The Enterprise A cannot, for instance, have 70+ decks, numbered in reverse. That does not mean that the whole movie has to be thrown out. But the parts that are self-contradictory should be discarded. We do that here all the time. Frank's position on the Defiant, for instance. For him, all the scenes where the ship is shown to be one size outweigh the smaller number of scenes where it is shown to be another. Since the Defiant cannot, within the context of the show, change shape at will, it can have only one size. Some say 120 meters, some say 170. That isn't important.
What is important is that we are dealing with a program created by people, and it will have mistakes in it. That can't be avoided. Our task, as we have taken it upon ourselves, is to explain, overcome, or otherwise "fix" those mistakes.
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