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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Busily tonight (at 3:30 in the morning) I decided to start looking for images of the star Wolf 359 (don't ask why, it should be obvious). Unfortunatly, all I can find are crappy shots with little specs with a line that says <-- Wolf 359. That's no good to me. I'm talking Hubble Close-ups if possible. PLEASE, someone find me a good image of Wolf 359!

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

You do know that Wolf 359 is just a (real!) star, not a region... I hope...

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

Hubble isn't wasted on piddly little local area stars like Wolf 359. It's far too busy playing peeping tom to the beginnings of the universe.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

What do you expect to see, a disk? You won't. It's too small and too far away to be resolved as a disc, even with Hubble. Just find an artist's conception of a red dwarf in some astronomy or space art book, and go with that. Maybe throw in some ice-rock balls or asteroids for atmosphere.

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Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :

Does anybody know where I can get some artistic renderings of planets, or at least a good tutorial on how to make them?

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Uh, yeah, I did say "the star Wolf 359"

And Hubble was just looking at Wolf 359 (and Wolf 424 A/B) earlier this year. But the only picture I found of this is a small spec.

And what do you mean it's too far away? It's the 3rd closest star to Earth (7.7 light years away)!

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Yes, but if it's a red dwarf, it's tiny and doesn't put out a lot of light.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Let's see...

In a circle with a 7.7 LY radius, the circumference would be 4.6*10ex14 km. For something to appear as one degree of arc at that distance, it'd have to be 1.27*10ex12 km in diameter. A single human eye (no need to account for binocular vision at that range) has a resolution of about 20 arc-seconds. So for something to show a noticable disk at that distance, it'd have to be, I'd estimate, 50 billion kilometers in diameter (not accounting for atmospheric disturbance, in which the twinkling effect would cancel out any disk until it was much larger).

Now our sun is 1.4 mil km in diameter (give or take a foot), and since 359 is a dwarf star, I'm going to assume it's considerably smaller. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to guess how much smaller. Let's say 1 mil km diameter.

If my numbers aren't THAT far off (probably are, but I'm having fun here ), Hubble would have to magnify by 50,000 times to get a noticable disk at that distance.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Hm... For some reason, I had the idea in my head that W359 was a white dwarf...

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Hmpf... Yes you did say star.

Why... Oh, never mind.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

In fact, I think only one star has ever been directly imaged as a disk, and it was a huge one, and I don't think Hubble did it.. I think it was the Keck interferometer. I'll try and look it up.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

You may be thinking of Betelgeuse, First. It's huge.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Yep, that's it. here it is:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/astro/hst_betelgeuse.jpg

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Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :

And Mira, which is huge too.

BTW, Wolf 359 is approximately 150,000 kms in diameter.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

OK, so more like 350,000 times.

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

For some weird reason I don't want to think of, when I searched for ""Wolf 359" pictures" on Webcrawler, I got a long list of ...err... porn sites

I think you need to improvise on this W359 pic.

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Prakesh, did you type it correctly? Or were you looking for those kinds of sites without knowing it?

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

The subconscious mind at work.

Of course, you can type almost anything into search engines and get porn sites as results. Except, for some reason, if you type in "vagina". True.

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