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Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :

Look what I've found (it's dated 19 January, so it's probably not very new). I've had it on my harddisk for quite a while, but I never got around posting it.

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Series V ideas revealed!

You may be surprised at how early this TrekToday update is, but I felt I had to rectify this error as soon as I was able to post this. Last week, when Ain't It Cool News published its report on the focus group session
where Paramount tested the waters for 3 Trek series ideas, I immediately discounted the reports, thinking they were completely fabricated. I really hate to have to say this, but - I was wrong. After asking around
some more with my regular sources, it turns out that, yes, the focus group session did happen. In addition, it is highly likely we'll be seeing an official announcement from Paramount on the new series within
4-6 weeks, at most two months. This also means that suddenly a lot more information is available on the three premises considered by Paramount, assuming the below two reports provide a correct description of what
happened during the focus group sessions. To begin with there is of course the info posted in the AICN report, but even more info has been posted to the startrek.voyager newsgroup on the official Paramount
server. One of the newsgroup's regular posters, Valar8, claimed to have attended one of these focus group sessions, organised by a marketing group presumably related to Paramount. She confirmed that three Series V
premises were suggested to the attendants, namely 'Starfleet Academy', 'Enterprise' and 'Alpha Squad'. Below you'll find a short summary of these three concepts:

The 'Starfleet Academy' idea was apparently presented on a monitor using a series of illustrations and a basic storyline and character background. The characters in this series would be Academy cadets who
would also "serve on a starship commanded by a seasoned Captain." In the series, the characters would be sent out on training missions, though
they would often end up in life-and-death situations. Valar8 rated this premise as 'Fair', as she liked the difference with current Trek, and the possibilities for new storylines. However, she also believed there
were too many 'soap opera' aspects, such as a female Vulcan cadet "who was studying the ways of humanity and seriously considering developing a romance with one of the other cadets (non-Vulcan)." Another character in
this series, which would take place after the Dominion War, would be a Changeling disguised as a Klingon.
The 'Enterprise' idea was presented in the same way as 'Starfleet Academy', and dealt with a series based in the 22nd Century. The characters in this (about which Valar8 didn't provide any details) were reportedly a lot more interesting than in 'Starfleet Academy', and
Valar8 also thought the storyline itself was rather good. However, she also thought that the series was basically just a rehash of TOS and TNG, and that they would run out of good storylines far too quickly. Valar8 rated this premise as 'Good'.
The third idea, called 'Alpha Squad', was just presented on paper, despite seeming to be the most popular of the three suggested premises.
This series would take place long after the Dominion War, with Voyager already having made it home. The series would deal with an elite force consisting of two ships and special forces officers, whose job it would
be to "be dispatched on specific missions against enemies of the Federation to neutralize threats." A few examples of such missions were also given, though except for mentioning a 'biological threat' scenario
Valar8 didn't say anything more about this. Valar8 rated this as 'Excellent', while it also was the highest-rated premise for most of the other attendants.
Keep in mind that, whichever premise is eventually selected for Series V, it could still undergo extensive changes, while Paramount could also elect to go with an entirely different premise altogether. As always,
even now that we have so many confirmations of this, treat this as you would any other rumour - it of course hasn't been officially confirmed by Paramount yet.

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Posted by Cammodude on :

That third possiblity for series V sounds like it would be focused on section 31.

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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :

To me the Starfleet Academy idea sounds too much like a teen series which I don't like. I don't think they would pull it off anyway.

The 22nd century idea is good but what I would like too see the when the Federation was formed and then dealing the with the troubles of being the "new fleet on the block"

I like the Elite Squad idea as it would be a fresh idea however I have the strangest feeling that it will be around Section 31 or it will be a big part of it.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

*screams*

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

I think we filed this in the "bullshit" category within a few days of it coming out.

I might add that Braga said about a month ago that not one remotely accurate premise had hit the net yet. He might've been lying, but we should keep that in mind.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

When this was new (ages ago), we quickly dismissed it based on the evidence presented. Someone should dig up that old thread. Not me. I'm lazy.

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Posted by SCSImperium (Member # 397) on :

This is pretty dated news (I read quite a while ago at the Universe). I think the latest idea (dubbed "Star Trek: Excellent") has some BOTF premise.

I really liked the idea of an Excelsior series. Especially when a orginial TOSer is willing and enthusiastic, which can only mean a big plus. Sulu had to be one fo the best charcters on the original 60's series, and ST:VI, which featured him on his own ship, as well as the VOY ep, really interested me in seeing more of Captain Sulu.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I'm generally opposed to a Sulu series, in large part because of that Voyager episode.

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Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :

I don't like the idea of a new series going back in time. To keep some sort of continuity, I think a new series should be taking place in the future (with respect to current Star Trek).

BTW: Sol System, cool signature!

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Thanks.

You are of course refering to my epicly wacky SF story included in the link, yes?

Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :

Um.... no, I guess. Maybe I'll read it someday, I have the impression that no one reads it. There has to be a first...

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

I read it. So far, it's vaguely D. Adamsish. I like it. Nice Star Wars references, too.

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Posted by SCSImperium (Member # 397) on :

The thing that is so good about that quote is that the Pennybags person looks like Patrick Stewart. Just the thought of a cartoon Patrick Stewart running around the Monopoly board with bags of money brings a smile to my face ...

Picard: Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Do you hear me, Number One?

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A scene that was cut from last season's "Rock" episode, Tsumkatse:
Rock: Do ya smell what the Rock's cookin'?
Janeway: Mr. Rock, was that you?
Tuvok: An intriguing smell ...

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

But my mom thinks I'm cool!

Er, what I mean is, thanks First. Adams is certainly someone I'm aware of, though I've tried (and perhaps failed) to keep it from just mimicing The Hitchhiker's Guide.

As for how many people have read it...oh...maybe a dozen. Just a guess, based on those I've spoken to.

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Posted by SCSImperium (Member # 397) on :

Read it. Very interesting. Maybe you would like the benefit of publishing it on my website. We have a staff of four and growing, as well as specialize in different types of fiction and nonfiction, all in a periodical/syndicated style.

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Operator of the Goulag Hotel, maintainer of the workhouses.

Operator of Cargill Conglomerate Publications, http://www.cargillconglomerate.com

A scene that was cut from last season's "Rock" episode, Tsumkatse:
Rock: Do ya smell what the Rock's cookin'?
Janeway: Mr. Rock, was that you?
Tuvok: An intriguing smell ...

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do with it. I suppose that depends on whether I ever finish it or not.