So how many different "command" roles are there?
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The Pilot's console ALSO has access to the Operations Console, namely external sensors.
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Oh SHUT UP!!!! *L*
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It should be noted that "Head of Operations" (O'Brian) is different from Operations Manager/chief (Data/Kim), which sounds like one of those IT jobs where you can get away with improving your minesweeper scores instead of working.
DS9 never had a tactical officer, but presumably Kira or Worf did it when the situation arrose. Worf would have done it on the Defiant too, although I remember Kira occasionally sitting at the Tactical station.
"Conn" was introduced for TNG. Confusingly, since Kirk would say in TOS "Mr blah, you have the conn", refering to "The bridge", Conn, presumably short for "flight controller", if you can't spell, was Wesley/Ro/Jadzia/Nog. It combined the original series helm and navigation, and was so easy even a monkey could do it, probably. (That's based on the fact that Ro - hardened criminal, Jadzia - science officer with tits, and Nog - an engineer in training; all sat there).
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[This message has been edited by SCSImperium (edited August 20, 2000).]
Conn in TNG combines most of the duties of Helm and Navigator from TOS.
OPS includes the duties formerly assigned to the bridge Engineering station.
Communications has now been bundled with Tactical.
In TOS, Sulu was in charge of the weapons and gave orders to Security, meaning that most of the duties later assigned to Tactical were part of Helm in TOS.
Worf was DS9's Tactical Officer, and Sisko said something about needing one now when he asked him to stay.
When Worf wore Red (first seanson TNG), the Encyclopedia says he was a Relief Conn Officer. However, he sure looked and acted like he reported to Tasha Yar.
Conn wears red. Captain and First Officer wear red (Except for a certain Doctor in command of a Medical Ship). All Admirals wear red. _Some_ Chief Engineers wear red (Argyle, first season).
Conclusion, Command branch is more a designation than a position. A Chief Engineer might be a Command Officer assigned to command of Engineering, or it might be an Engineer assigned to command of his section. Only Conn seems to require Command Branch, and this makes some sense as Conn could be viewed as controlling the ship.
Engineering and Tactical/Security are actually divisions of Operations Branch, though seperate enough to warrent their own Senior Officers.
Like above, Medical (and Councelor) is technically part of Sciences, but is handled seperately.
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Season 1 of TOS went through a revolving door set of navigators. The one in, oh you know, the one with the poity sticks making people happy episode, with computer being evil that Kirk destroys with bad writing, that one, he appeared again.
But most if the other navigators were there for an episode, argued with someone, then dissapeared.
The job of the navigator was to program courses to various places, and other boring blah. The helmsman actually steared the ship. The command would go "Mr Chekov, set a course for Starbase 3; Mr Sulu, ahead warp factor 4". They then realised that, wiyth computers and whatnot, the Navigator (and communications) officers had pretty much bugger all to do, so they merged them with other jobs in TOS.
Sulu as Helmsman was also responsible for firing weapons, most of the time.
For the first movie, Checkov had been promoted, and transferred positions. He was now chief of security, and chief tactical officer. Which is why he fired the Photorps in that movie. When he returned to the Enterprise in TWOK, Kirk stuck him at tactical.
For the rest of the movies, he gradually snuck around to sit at the front again. Presumably he stayed Chief of security, but preferred the view at the front.
It's worring though that the chief of security didn't know that a phaser set on kill sets of internal alarms, but oh well.
BTW, I'm amazed I remembered that Worf and Kira sat at tactical on the Defiant. I don't look out for that sort of stuff. Although Odo running communications in "The Adversary" stuck out a bit. And was hilarious.
Oh well, yay me!
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"Why do you want to spend time with a deer? They're so stupid, they get hypnotized by headlights!" - Guido Anchovy
Another position that I would imagine is on most Starfleet ships:
a legal officer (unless lawyers have been outlawed by the 24th century ... )
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Maybe.
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"Why do you want to spend time with a deer? They're so stupid, they get hypnotized by headlights!" - Guido Anchovy
Actually, I would imagine that when a senior officer is summoned away from their posts, they call down to engineering or some auxillary control area (not neccessarily call ... maybe tap a button to signal that a replacement for whichever station is needed), and someone jumps on the turbolift and comes on up!
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