The 80 is an attempt at surprise. According to the web site Startrek.Com, Tuvok was born on stardate 38774 (2264) on Vulcanis Lunar Colony. Some explanation as to why I am surprised- In TOS, Vulcanis is a name given to the planet Vulcan in the early episodes. Mr. Spock says in "The Man Trap" that Vulcan has no moons. This doesn't exclude a twin planet, as seen in The Motion Picture. If Vulcan (Vulcanis) has no moon, then how can Tuvok be born at a lunar colony. He couldn't. Or did I miss something?
Note: The information provided by the website is accurate and uses canonical material. There are a few omissions, such as Captain Kirk's first command. However, the omissions are of a trivial nature. So, we know that there is canonical evidence for a Vulcanis Lunar Colony, probably referred to in the season premier. ------------------
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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Doesn't necessarily have to be a moon of Vulcan.
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Posted by colin (Member # 217) on :
SHIK Vulcan has no moon. The only other possibility that I can think of is that the sister planet is named Vulcanis and Tuvok is born on one of the moons seen orbiting the planet. Rather silly, isn't it? Two planets named Vulcan and Vulcanis.
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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
You're missing the point, Bubba..as you are so often wont t'do.
Reread what I said. Think about it.
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
Shik is right, it could be a colony on our own moon, for example.
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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
I'm actually delighted that somebody remembered that Vulcanis thing. And I also have the feeling that this somebody actually was very well versed on this whole "Vulcan is Vulcanis and has no moons except when we see them" issue.
Perhaps it's a bit silly to say that planets Vulcan and Vulcanis circle each other, while the latter has moons but the former does not. But it's also a rather logical proposition, considering the evidence.
Of course, fanfic likes to call this twin planet something else (T'Khut is especially popular). Then again, Ann Crispin pitches a nice idea in the novel "Sarek" about this twin planet having several names, according to its phase in the Vulcan sky.
And as the Grand Old Man of news.paramount.com/startrek.theoriginalseries, GeneK stated, the name Vulcanis is NOT used in any TOS dialogue. It's just an urban myth. Spock was called a "Vulcanian", though.
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
According to the Encyclopedia, "Vulcanis" was used in the "first few episodes", thought this could refer to things in the script that weren't in dialogue, I suppose...
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Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :
OK, but even when it is supposed that there exists a 'Vulcanis', I would go for the idea that 'Vulcanis' is the name of the other part of the planetary twin (Vulcan is the other). However that 'twin' idea is not necessarily canon, it is in my idea a very plausible theory.
Although Vulcanis is a planet and not really a moon, 'lunar' might be referring to Vulcanis, albeit astronomically incorrect. Or Vulcanis is just a Vulcan colony outside the Vulcan system, and that colonized planet has a moon - hence, 'lunar'.
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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Hmm. I don't remember "Vulcanis". I do remember Spock referring to himself as a "Vulcanian", and him being only a lt. commander. I don't recall if his stripes ever actually changed though.
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Posted by jh on :
Well, if you think about the 80 part of the colony name it leads me to think that Vulcanis Lunar colony is not a colony on the Vulcanis moon but instead any Lunar colony originally founded by a Vulcanis mission. For instance, Vulcanis Lunar colony 37 might be on a totally different moon. And it may have in turn grown large enough to be responsible for Vulcanis Lunar colony 82...etc. Or there might be a planet colonized by Vulcans (lets call it Madeupis) and colonies it founded would be Madeupis Lunar Colony 1, 2, 3, etc.
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Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :
In case you didn't notice, JH, the "80" was only added to the topic name to catch interest. It is not authentic in the way that the name as such is canon.
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Posted by jh on :
Ah...oh well, perfectly good convoluted theory making sense of another piece of dialogue goes to waste...
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