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Where'd you get the idea for Federation, Klingon, and Romulan ships in the Gamma Quadrant? Just curious, but there's a rather lengthy thread in "Creative" about my own series, and THAT is its premise ...

Bajor & DS9 of course remain very important. When Bajor eventually joins the Federation, her militia will be "assimilated" (for lack of a better word), into Starfleet.

It's also a good bet that the Big Three will keep a good sized force at DS9 for a few years to come ... just in case the Dominion decides to knock ...

Cardassia and her space will be under the control of the Big Three. I'm certain that independent worlds formally under the control of the Cardassians will be set up for free elections and allowed to govern themselves. Cardassia will be rebuilt, and the Big Three will make sure they have a freely-elected government ... although, with their war-time casualties, it probably won't be a very big populace for it to govern.

I doubt Cardassia would be occupied for seventy years. Five ... maybe ten, at the extreme outside.

Do the Romulans and Klingons even need to recruit? I would think they both have a forced conscription program ...

I think the Klingon Empire was hit as hard as the Federation (Gowron was worried about an attack on Quo'nos) ...

As for the Federation ...

Recruitment into Starfleet's officer and enlisted corps is WAAAY down. Nearly everyone lost someone -- a friend, relative, lover, etcetra, during the war.

Starfleet's pre-war strength was approx. 40,000 ships ... now, she's barely able to scrape up half that, with close to 8,000 ships too badly damaged for service (and the waiting list at drydocks and other repair facilities miles long).

They've barely got the ability to keep the Fleet at 20,000 + ships, so concentration will come to expanding the exploration programs, as well as more basic needs. I think the military aspect of Starfleet will come last.

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I also see you're getting the hang of the 'Enter' button on your keyboard. Try pushing it twice between certain chunks of text

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The UFP, Cardassia & Bajor.
Interesting. However, and I find this to probably be the case, I think Cardassia is going to be under Allied occupation for longer than just five to 10 years. The Dominion turned it into a billion hole golf course. And to say nothing that there will be some more conservative elements in the UFP hierarchy that will want to punish Cardassia for their actions with the Dominion. This could cause problems down the road with Cardassia's "rehabilitation".

Bajor will eventually join the UFP. That's a given. They're literally in the single most strategic spot in the entire Alpha Quad. They've got it made.

As for the rest of the UFP, out of all the other powers, I think the UFP will recover the fastest and possibly for the better. However, I do see on the horizon some trouble with some worlds in their sphere of influence.

Klingons - well, what's for them to do? They're a warrior species and it's just a matter of time before they start kicking up some trouble, possibly with the Romulans. However in their favor is Chancellor Martok. I really do think he'll be able to keep the reigns of control on some of his "more rowdier" elements in his government.

Romulans - Who knows really how much this war has knocked em' on their pins. Either they will finally make a real raproachment with the rest of the galaxy or they will slide into isolationism again, with a possible civil war as the result.

Breen - I think the Breen knew they got used by the Dominion and I wouldn't doubt they keep to themselves for quite some time.

Ferengi - "War is good for business", "Peace is good for business." They'll do just fine.

As for the rest - who knows.

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Klingons are warriors they will get along fine since all they have to do is rebuild their fleet. I don't think Martok will cause any trouble maybe expand the Empire outwards in unexplored territory perhaps.

Romulans who knows, they are just as mysterious as when they reappeared in 'The Neutral Zone"

Dominion will not cause much trouble since Odo is with the The Great Link.

Just like the Japanese after WW2 they will be helped out until they are able to take care of themsevles. Their remaining fleet will only be used as a defending force.

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Odo may be looked at as a savior by the rest of the link, and may have a bit of control over them for that.

The Sisko may cause delays for Bajor to join the Federation, until the time is right.

Starfleet should take the older classes and cannibalize as needed. I don't think direct retirement for the majority will begin till newer classes are built. Can't have the Romulans, in their unknown strength, think that they have any kind of advantage.
Taking 3 Mirandas and making one would work. Take a 4th computer core and tell it that you are using these componets from these ships, you have access to these ships computer cores, build yourself your programming.
Also, by taking the Mark I HoloDocs and making them HoloMechs you can have a bigger work force that can interragate the subsystems they're working on. So maybe they can be relieved of being janitors.

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Well, it's done, yes, the deed is done.

*ponders that*

And there lies the seeds for the next conflict, much like in the way the Cold War developed after WW2.

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CARDASSIA
Prehaps with the Alliance in control until the end of the 24th Century(2390). I think that vessels visiting Cardassia will be restricted to just pure aid for the moment. I Don't think they're space will be divided but occupied by Alliance ships. This will consist of 1000 starships.

WORMHOLE
With Sisko now in there. The wormhole will become more vital then before as Starfleet relaunches it exploration program into the quadrant.

BAJOR
With increased Starfleet activity, Bajor will recieve more visitors from across the quadrant. Bajor will be a member of UFP in 2379. 10 years after coming under federation protection.

DOMINION
With Odo firmlly incharge,The Gamma Quadrant will under go radical changes. Systems recently invaded by the Dominion will be freed. Those still under Dominion control will not be treated cruelly ,some will break away and ask for Federation membership while other's choose independence. There will be a fleet here consisting of 500 Starships from UFP. 400 Starships from Klingons and 500 starships from Romulans

DEEP SPACE NINE
DS9 will continue to remain where it is. Weapons will still be upgraded incase of Odo's explusion as leader of the Dominion. Starfleet will keep a backup fleet here incase of more Dominion activity. The Defiant will also still be kept here. This fleet will consist of 50 starshps

BAJOR SECTOR
With a fleet here and in the Gamma Quadrant. Starfleet will still keep a major pressence's here. Starfleet will allow civillian ships back into the sector. Starfleet will also keep up supply routes to DS9 and Cardassia.

STARBASE 375
With a fleet at DS9 and on the other side of the Wormhole. Starfleet will also keep a third backup fleet here. This starbase proved vital to Starfleet during the War. This fleet will consist of 250 Starships

EARTH
With Fleets at 375,DS9 and in the Gamma Quadrant. A fleet will be permently stationed in Sector 001. This fleet will consist of 2000 starships. This fleet will also protect against Borg attack.

ROMULAN NEUTRAL ZONE
This 1 light year barrier will remain there.

DEMILITRALISED ZONE
This no longer exsists.

Space is big - seems they'd focus the exploration in other directions and simply replace the minefield in front of the wormhole. The Fed government could care less about Odo and whatever social reforms he may or may not be able to begin in the Dominion. Bottom line they need to avoid a fight more that they need the Gamma quad.

Rather than trying to pick another fight with the Dominion I imagine the UFP is trying to hold together the alliance with the Klingons and Romulans, they'd all gain by turning it into a trade alliance....

TK
 

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Not a cat's chance in hell. That would be seen as interference by the Federation. The Founders (regardless of Odo's influence) would never allow that.

Not only that, but they'd have to police a burgeoning mini-Fed through the wormhole, a situation that wouldn't make Starfleet planners very happy. Far too vulnerable to attack from whoever.

2,000 starships in Earth's vicinity!?
Are you raving mad? Where are you going to keep them - in a box?
50 starships in Earth orbit is plenty sufficient for a Borg attack - Early Warning systems would be the key should a Borg fleet decide to come a-knocking.

And mining every asteroid in the system with nukes wouldn't hurt either, for feck's sake.
There's no such thing as overkill when it comes to killing.

I thought civilian ships were allowed in the Bajoran sector during the war.
What war?

Odo firmly in charge? Firm, as in jelly-like?

Hmm, nothing else to bitch about. Carry on.

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Anyway, I've always thought that Sol had fairly good punctuation.

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As for Odo, he may have returned to the link, to heal his people, but making galactic policy? I think not. He's barely a teenager by their standards.

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The Doiminion is basically just a bit weaker than they were at the beginning of the war. Their entire Gamma Quadrant fleet was left unscratched, well...except for those 2800 ships "lost" in the wormhole.

The Doiminion is just as strong but they have been humilated by a weaker force. It will take them at least a decade to get over this horrendous defeat.

AS for Odo, he probably has a say in the Link but he's power is at the most a bit more than the rest of the changelings.

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Mostly due to the fact that jem'hadar are easily replaced, whislt humans aren't.

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These guys were certain they would win, and they were right, had it not been for da prophets. I DO think it cost them much, it's unheard of to lose an armada in .3 seconds.

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"Hey, we butchered Poles! Thats OK."
- DT.

However, Dominon lost the war on the Alpha quad, that doesn't mean their military forces were completely destoryed. Consider that the Dominion is a military state to begin with, whose stability depends on military oppression, they probabaly have a lot more military stock-up to begin with then the UFP before the war even started.

In DS9, it was mentioned several time that Dominon's ship building capability surpass that of the UFP. Even with Dominon's alpha forces all wiped out, their ship building capability still remain intact in the Gamma quad, not to mention that Jammies are breed in tubes not enlisted, so no shortages of ships and personall.

Odo will prove to be a great influence to the link, but I dought one person can do that much change to a whole population of conservative minds.

What's my conclusion? The Dominon was wounded during the war, but manage to pull away with it's claw and teeths still intact, so the Fed will probably just stay away from Gamma quad, and lick their own wound instead. For those world that wanted to seperate from Dominion, I wish them luck, cuz it's probably not possible to do so

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Would it have some profits for the Dominion?

And what about the Borg vs. the Dominion? Surely, when the Borg care to come all the way to the AQ, they would have had some contact with the Dominion? Maybe in a few decades the Dominon and the Federation will sign some silly anti-Borg treaty?

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In any case, Klingons apparently don't mind sending and losing huge fleets. It may weaken them for a while, but it's not gonna make them rethink their policies or anything.

Timo Saloniemi
 

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"Hey, we butchered Poles! Thats OK."
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