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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

...Star Trek life forms? Non-corporials don't count. Would it be that big thang in "Galaxy's Child?"

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

It's Momma.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Top contenders
The Monster Paramecium in TOS's "Immunity Syndrome"
The Farpoint ship/starbase Aliens
V'Ger, if you count its exterior vessel

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

What about The Really Big Amoebe?

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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

I believe that's what First meant when he said paramecium.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Oh, yeah, the Amoeba. Forgot about that one.

Didn't Yar say how massive the station/ship/lifeform's mate was relative to the big E?

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

The Borg.

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

They're all small potatoes compared to the massively thick glory of Sol's enormous "staff o' smiting."

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

That's what I thought this thread was about anyway. Omega has seen the light. Or rather, he hasn't. Because Simon has undone his trousers layed on his back, and blocked out the sun.

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :

So that explains that teeny solar eclipse the other day. I was beggining to get worried!

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Ah, the Borg. Hadn't thought of that one.

Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

What about the coffee nebula in "The Cloud" in Voyager...

or the whale probe... it looked quite organic...

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I don't think any of them outmass the Borg. Remember, there's only one, and technically there isn't any difference between the drones and their ships. It's all Borg.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Aah, but the borg are an artificial lifeform. The coffee-nebula is my next guess.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

The Borg are just over 900 years old, at least according "Dragon's Teeth".

The Dominion are 10000 years old, I believe.

But a species that may count is the one that is responsible for creating most humanoid species. It was seen in TNG, and the only one we've seen was played by the woman who plays the Female changeling in DS9. (Makes you wonder about the Founders of the Dominion, doesn't it?)

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

"Dragon's Teeth" more or less says the Borg became a threat to the Waadvaur no earlier than 900 years ago. It doesn't necessarily say the Borg did not exist before that, and did not rule the galaxy (although apparently the writers did want to imply that).

Earlier episodes give other figures. In "Q Who?", Guinan says the Borg have been around for hundreds of millennia, and Q seems to confirm this, so something between 200,000 and 900,000 years of age would seem the most likely.

The Dominion has been referred to as 2,000 years old in "To the Death", but a) that's probably just the lower age limit and b) it's probably disinformation fed by the Founders themselves anyway. Then again, the Dominion is not a single lifeform - and even if we count the Changelings as a single pool of goo, it probably hasn't grown in size much since its conception. A hundred "babies" per a thousand years or so was the implication in "The Search" where Odo's return in less than two centuries was considered vastly premature, and no mention was made of another, later batch of babies.

The really really ancient humanoids from "The Chase" might count if they ultimately merged into a single being, but we saw no hint of such a fate.

Of the cloud things, wasn't the amoeba just 11,000 km across? Still bigger than the other space dwellers, save for V'Ger (80 AU cloud included) and the coffee nebula - what were its dimensions? Oh, and TAS "One of Our Planets is Missing" had a big antimatter cloud thing that seemed capable of enveloping planets, so 11,000 km would be the lower size limit.

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :

I'm surprised that the starship-eating thing from "Bliss" hasn't been mentioned...

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

I'm going to make a new thread about the age of the Borg...

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Posted by Doctor Jonas (Member # 481) on :

Size? The Doomsday Machine, of course! It's supposed to eat an entire planet! How could you match that!?!?!

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Well it's not a lifeform...

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Posted by Doctor Jonas (Member # 481) on :

That's what you say!!! It's alive, I tell you!

Actually, I overlooked that part. My bad... :p

Then my vote goes for the space amoeba.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Wasn't the planet-eater fairly small for its task, anyway? I thought it broke the planet apart and ate it in small pieces. I'm afraid I haven't actually seen the episode, so I don't know what was shown...

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Posted by DARKSTAR on :

List Of Big Thing in Star Trek

Dedirex Class Romulan Warbird :-1041 m
Kazon Mothership:-3000m
Dominion Super battlecruiser:-1200m
Voth City Ship:-5000m
Borg Cube:-3000m (on one edge)
Cell Thing In TOS:-1 light year
Planet Killer:-3000m
Soveriegn:-685m
Galaxy:-642m
Intrepid:-344m
Prometheus:-350m
Defiant:-170m
Galor Class:-475m

Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

The Founders. When they are in the link, it is in essence, one life form. And the do seem to cover the entire planet like an ocean.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

No, they sustain their individuality when bathing so it's just a big gathering.
The borg are as one but it's a cybernetic link so basically just a virtual network.

Darkstar: The D'Deridex is in the 1300m-range and the Kazon ship is about half that figure. Where did you get them values?

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His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Oh, DARKSTAR never responds to questions, Nimrod. He shows up, pulls some numbers out of his a**, then vanishes.

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

The Borg count. Of course the Borg count. Unless you're being prejudicial towards alien lifeforms.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Planet killer?

Anyway, the Dyson sphere is the biggest construction. I'm going for the 'Bliss' creature on living things.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Anyone have an idea on the size of Borg-city?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I keep telling you, it's the Borg!

1.) The Borg is a lifeform.
2.) The Borg is made up of billions, if not trillions, of things the size of a person.
3.) There is no distinction between its organic and inorganic components.

Now, if we want to cheat and change the original post to largest organic lifeforms, that's different.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Yes, but does the collective mind constitute a corporeal entity, or is it non-corporeal, and simply controls a couple trillion bodies?

I think I'll have to go with the "Bliss" creature.

Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

That was all I was saying, fast-draw! It's a simulated, artificial lifeform.

Of course, none of them could compete with Riker's ego which seem to have taken on a life of its own...

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His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

I meant Sol, Omega.

Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :

The Borg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
However I like the suggestion of Riker...

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Posted by Free ThoughtCrime America (Member # 480) on :

well, the way Riker barrels through doors as though he's trying to knock them down with his forehead just about tells you all you need to know about his ego, doesn't it? played a drinking game where we took a shot of rum every time he walked like that. this over some trek marathon on fox...sweet jesus, i was so painfully drunk. fantastic idea, really.

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