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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Antagonist</b> <br /><small>Member # 484</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,1,7,0,15,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">February 07, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:15 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I am considering mentioning the great barrier in a starship design I hope to post on these forums soon, and the thought came upon me that I should probably ask around for information on this topic before I start going on about it. So how how about it? Can anybody provide me with some information on it? when it was first mentioned, some background (conjectural information will also work), etc.<P>Thanks. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Ritten</b> <br /><small>Member # 417</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,1,7,0,55,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">February 07, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:55 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The Great Barrier was first seen in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier when the Enterprise was taken over by Sybok in 2287 for his search for Sha Ka Ree.<P>The <I>Galactic Barrier</I> was first seen in 'Where No Man Has Gone Before' TOS when the Enterprise 2065, as a follow up mission for the SS Valiant earlier that year. The Barrier was crossed three times by the Enterprise, in 2265, in 2268 as seen in 'By Any Other Name' TOS, and in late 2268 or early 2269 seen in 'Is There in Truth No Beauty'. Some people are effected by the GB in the form of dramitically enhanced ESP and pyschokentic powers.<P>------------------<BR>"One's ethics are determined by what we do when no one is looking" Nugget<BR><A HREF="http://www.majinc-web.com/tokyo/" TARGET=_blank>Star Trek: Gamma Quadrant</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.majinc-web.com/legacy/" TARGET=_blank>Star Trek: Legacy</A><BR>Read them, rate them, got money, film them<P>"...and I remain on the far side of crazy, I remain the mortal enemy of man, no hundred dollar cure will save me..." WoV<P><BR><p>[This message has been edited by Ritten (edited February 07, 2001).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Antagonist</b> <br /><small>Member # 484</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,1,7,1,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">February 07, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:38 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I confused the names of the two. What I had emant was the Galactic Barrier. The above request still stands, just substitute "Great" for "Galactic."<P>Thanks for the info and the correction. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Ritten</b> <br /><small>Member # 417</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,1,7,1,55,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">February 07, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:55 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> No problem, glad to help. <P>------------------<BR>"One's ethics are determined by what we do when no one is looking" Nugget<BR><A HREF="http://www.majinc-web.com/tokyo/" TARGET=_blank>Star Trek: Gamma Quadrant</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.majinc-web.com/legacy/" TARGET=_blank>Star Trek: Legacy</A><BR>Read them, rate them, got money, film them<P>"...and I remain on the far side of crazy, I remain the mortal enemy of man, no hundred dollar cure will save me..." WoV<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Nim</b> <br /><small>Member # 205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,1,7,2,41,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">February 07, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:41 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I thought the galactic "core" had a barrier, as well as the outside, bottom and top. Wasn't that where Sybok and co went?<BR>I also think, in reality, the galactic edges only thinned out into less and less planets and stars until you were into open space, finally unaffected by galactic revolution.<P>------------------<BR>Here lies a toppled god,<BR>His fall was not a small one.<BR>We did but build his pedestal,<BR>A narrow and a tall one.<P>-Tleilaxu Epigram <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Aban Rune</b> <br /><small>Member # 226</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,1,7,8,11,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">February 07, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:11 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yah. I don't recall ever hearing anything "real" about any kind of galactic barrier around the putside of the galaxy. I think it's just a matter of no more stars.<P>------------------<BR>"You don't tug on Superman's cape.<BR> You don't spit into the wind.<BR> You don't pull the mask off the ole' Lone Ranger<BR> And you don't mess around with Jim."<BR>Aban's Illustration <A HREF="http://www.alanfore.com" TARGET=_blank>www.alanfore.com<BR></A> <P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Ritten</b> <br /><small>Member # 417</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,1,7,10,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">February 07, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:50 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I'll check around, but I do believe that they either have thought or do think a galactic barrier exists. It is an area of radiation that surrounds the galaxy, not a cloud as ST has made it, but VFX are everything to us.<P>------------------<BR>"One's ethics are determined by what we do when no one is looking" Nugget<BR><A HREF="http://www.majinc-web.com/tokyo/" TARGET=_blank>Star Trek: Gamma Quadrant</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.majinc-web.com/legacy/" TARGET=_blank>Star Trek: Legacy</A><BR>Read them, rate them, got money, film them<P>"...and I remain on the far side of crazy, I remain the mortal enemy of man, no hundred dollar cure will save me..." WoV<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sol System</b> <br /><small>Member # 30</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,1,7,19,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">February 07, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:08 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Probably just comm traffic from the Transcend.<P>------------------<BR>I will shout until they know what I mean.<BR>--<BR>Neutral Milk Hotel<BR>****<BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/simsizer/chapter1.html" TARGET=_blank>Read three (three!) chapters of "Dirk Tungsten in...The Disappearing Planet"! Then, go insane!</A><P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Talented Mr. Gurgeh</b> <br /><small>Member # 318</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,1,8,17,1,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">February 08, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:01 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Just as a matter of interest, why would you want to mention the Great Barrier in a starship design? <P>------------------<BR>*Kenshiro gets off bed made from solid stone*<BR>*Bed made from solid stone explodes*<BR>Fist of the North Star<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Ritten</b> <br /><small>Member # 417</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,1,8,18,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">February 08, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:04 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> As conjecture on the shis uses, exploring the GB??<P>------------------<BR>"One's ethics are determined by what we do when no one is looking" Nugget<BR><A HREF="http://www.majinc-web.com/tokyo/" TARGET=_blank>Star Trek: Gamma Quadrant</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.majinc-web.com/legacy/" TARGET=_blank>Star Trek: Legacy</A><BR>Read them, rate them, got money, film them<P>"...and I remain on the far side of crazy, I remain the mortal enemy of man, no hundred dollar cure will save me..." WoV<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Antagonist</b> <br /><small>Member # 484</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,1,11,23,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">February 11, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:26 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Ritten hit the nail on the head here, well kind of. Lets just say for now that the ship was meant to go to the Galactic Barrier, but that isn't where it stops, or its first or last destination, either.<P>I've always heard that the Galactic Barrier was an impenetrable wall of force that strange effects on humanoids. I am only slightly familiar with the TOS episode that delt with the GB and the SS Valiant.<BR>Anyhow, I've collected the bare minimum information I need now, perhpaps there isn't as much written about it as there should be. Thanks all for the help.<BR>------------------<BR>A wise man once said:<BR>"The most dangerous man is one with nothing more to lose."<BR>Obviously the wise man didn't consider that a man with everything to lose could be equally as dangerous.<P>[This message has been edited by The Antagonist (edited February 11, 2001).]<p>[This message has been edited by The Antagonist (edited February 11, 2001).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Ritten</b> <br /><small>Member # 417</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,1,12,7,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">February 12, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:52 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> If you are using books as a ref., there was a book about Q that covered a lot of the 'mysteries' about the Trek Universe, it was a good book, but since it isn't canon...<P>------------------<BR>"One's ethics are determined by what we do when no one is looking" Nugget<BR><A HREF="http://www.majinc-web.com/tokyo/" TARGET=_blank>Star Trek: Gamma Quadrant</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.majinc-web.com/legacy/" TARGET=_blank>Star Trek: Legacy</A><BR>Read them, rate them, got money, film them<P>"...and I remain on the far side of crazy, I remain the mortal enemy of man, no hundred dollar cure will save me..." WoV<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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