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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
 
I was about to put this on the general Sci-Fi forum. But something tells me it's better put here...

Handsome couple, ain't it?

BTW: This is from 'Dark Angel'...

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Terry: "Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, ...."
Max: "And?"
Terry: "I forgot."
Max: "Come on, Clinton was the fun one, then came the boring one."
Terry: "They're all boring."

- Batman Beyond (aka: Batman of the Future)

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :
 
Uh, no...

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
[stupid question]
Who is that guy? He has a very familiar face, but I can't quite place him...
[/stupid question]

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"To all Harry-Fans: I meant no disrespect against Harry and have nothing against the stupid little creature. Thanks and enjoy the show."
Nimrod, 04-04-01.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
John Savage. You prolly know him as Captain Ransom, but this actor/composer seems to have 90 confirmed parts in movies and shows under his belt. (I remember him with DeNiro and Walken, in "Deer Hunter")

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Don't kill me, I'm charming!

 


Posted by Gaseous Anomaly (Member # 114) on :
 
This summer...


Marvel's Greatest Heroes...


Will find themselves...


Somewhere.

Coming soon: The Age Of Guest Stars!

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At that point, McDonald fired his gun three times in the air to emphasize his point. The crowd, estimated at 350,000, loudly cheered the new candidate.

"Let me make this clear: I am the law! I am your ruler! And you will have fries with that, motherf*cker!"


 


Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Its like Folder and Scaley

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Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.
Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.
Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!
 


Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
Of course, Ransom. That was him.

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"Fuck L Ron Hubbard and fuck all his clones.
Fuck all those gun-toting
hip gangster wannabes."
-Tool, Ænima

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Hmm... I wonder who she plays...? She'd have to be a nasty one to be associating with Lydecker...

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"The truth is usually just an excuse for lack of imagination."
- Garak, "Improbable Cause"

 


Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Damn she's hot...

Probably some other X-5 drill sergeant or something. The disitinctive "La Femme Nikita-esque" garb says she is in cahoots with Lydecker. Maybe head of another Manticore group?

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"The sons of the Prophet were valiant and bold,
And quite unacustomed to fear.
But, of all, the most reckless, or so I am told,
Was Abdulah Boul Boul Ameer."
Aban's Illustration www.alanfore.com


 


Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
I gave up on this show after the second ep; anyone wanna tell me what it's all about?

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"It strikes me that there are enough episodes of the Simpsons that people could speak entirely in Simpsonese, using references from the show to explain or describe an endless series of situations. Nelson and Apu . . . at Tinagra.

But now I�ve brought Star Trek into it again, haven�t I. Sorry."

- James Lileks, 09/04/2001
 


Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Jessica Marie Alba's monsterly fuckable body.

Still, that's not enough to get me to watch it.

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"For people with resources, the right events happen. They may look like coincidences, but they arise out of necessity." --T�rk Hviid

 


Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Yeah, Shikkychops, I'd mostly figured THAT bit out! And, as you say, it's still not enough to watch. . .

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"It strikes me that there are enough episodes of the Simpsons that people could speak entirely in Simpsonese, using references from the show to explain or describe an endless series of situations. Nelson and Apu . . . at Tinagra.

But now I�ve brought Star Trek into it again, haven�t I. Sorry."

- James Lileks, 09/04/2001
 


Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Angel sounds biblical. If it's anything like "Brimstone", or some demon/devil corporation trying to conquer the world, like in the "Blood"-games, then bleargh.

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Don't kill me, I'm charming!

 


Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Actually, it's not biblical at all - I think. In fact, I read an interview with David Boreanaz where he complained that the same studio managed to bring out two similarly-named shows - "Angel" and "Dark Angel" - and that they seemed to be favouring the latter in promotion & scheduling.

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"It strikes me that there are enough episodes of the Simpsons that people could speak entirely in Simpsonese, using references from the show to explain or describe an endless series of situations. Nelson and Apu . . . at Tinagra.

But now I�ve brought Star Trek into it again, haven�t I. Sorry."

- James Lileks, 09/04/2001
 


Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Can't they do ANYTHING about norwegian farmers nowadays????? I'lltellya, some people...

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Don't kill me, I'm charming!

 


Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
LOL!! Shik is just so dead on, it made Coke come out of my nose.

I actually don't get why it's called Dark Angel. She's not a bad guy. She's not evil. There's nothing dark about her. She doesn't go around killing people willy nilly. It seems to be just a reach out and grab you title that means nothing.

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"The sons of the Prophet were valiant and bold,
And quite unacustomed to fear.
But, of all, the most reckless, or so I am told,
Was Abdulah Boul Boul Ameer."
Aban's Illustration www.alanfore.com


 


Posted by Gaseous Anomaly (Member # 114) on :
 
Brimstone was monsterably fuckably brilliant, Nimrod.

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At that point, McDonald fired his gun three times in the air to emphasize his point. The crowd, estimated at 350,000, loudly cheered the new candidate.

"Let me make this clear: I am the law! I am your ruler! And you will have fries with that, motherf*cker!"


 


Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
It was so bad, especially the car from hell that he had to kill by shooting out the lights, and that girl that spread a disease.
She almost killed him in the end, of course, then he for no reason got his aim back, she just stood there, and he shot her eye out.
Worst ever way to end an episode, no thought behind it at all.
Plus, I've never seen a good show where the producer plays the main part. Sheesh.

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Don't kill me, I'm charming!

 


Posted by Gaseous Anomaly (Member # 114) on :
 
I thought the car thing was hilarious!! Completely took me by suprise, and then he heads off on roller blades

Don't know which episode you're referring to with the disease-spreader, as I missed a few of the first episodes.

It's A Helluva Life was an excellent piece of television as well.

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At that point, McDonald fired his gun three times in the air to emphasize his point. The crowd, estimated at 350,000, loudly cheered the new candidate.

"Let me make this clear: I am the law! I am your ruler! And you will have fries with that, motherf*cker!"


 


Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
"Plus, I've never seen a good show where the producer plays the main part. Sheesh."

Frasier? Or, as an even better example, the sheer genius of Diagnosis: Murder.

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You know, when Comedy Central asked us to do a Thanksgiving episode, the first thought that went through my mind was, "Boy, I'd like to have sex with Jennifer Aniston."
-Trey Parker, co-creator of South Park
 


Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Kelsey Grammer doesn't try to glorify himself, Peter Horton and Scott Bakula does. I don't like them, but I fully respect that you do.

And "The Devil" was laughable too. He's the surveyor of billions upon billions of lost, agonizing souls, controlling the domain of sins, and ol' Eziekel gets him all misty-eyed by referring to his banishment from heaven, in ten seconds. Awww, poor lucifer.

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Don't kill me, I'm charming!

 


Posted by Gaseous Anomaly (Member # 114) on :
 
John Glover was unreal as the Devil - he protrayed him as a real character, an angel that had been cast down from heaven and tasked with upkeeping Hell.

He wasn't a caricature like the Devil in South Park (not), or other productions. He didn't go around killing people for the sake of it (Gabriel Byrne), nor did he have megalomaniacal tendencies (Al Pacino).

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At that point, McDonald fired his gun three times in the air to emphasize his point. The crowd, estimated at 350,000, loudly cheered the new candidate.

"Let me make this clear: I am the law! I am your ruler! And you will have fries with that, motherf*cker!"


 


Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Great! I'm so glad you like it! Liking is good.

Now can someone tell me what the hell "Dark Angel" is about?
Is Lydecker your standard head henchman of an evil corporation/agency?
Does the main character do anything else than drive around on her black Suzuki? (Ok, so I saw a poster in a marvel-mag, I admit that)

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Don't kill me, I'm charming!

 


Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
In the near future, a shadowy agency codenamed Manticore decides to create an army of genetically engineered people. This works, except they escape. Then, later in the near future, some bad stuff happens and Seattle is very slightly more run down than it is today. Also, the genetically engineered person who is the star of the show grows up. And becomes hot. Or should I say, Hot. She goes around town, being Hot, and occasionally kicking ass.

That's pretty much it. I've never actually seen a full episode, so perhaps I'm missing out on some important subtext.

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"Excuse me, Mr. Rampaging Killer? Why don't you put down the gun and take a look at this hand-held monkey? Does it not have clever little forepaws? It eats gum and sap!"
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L. Fitzgerald Sj�berg
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Read three (three!) chapters of "Dirk Tungsten in...The Disappearing Planet" and something pleasent will happen to you. Possibly involving syrup.



 


Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
I get it. An army of "Pretenders", only they're not masquerading, they're just better than us. But The Centre, ahem, Manticore wants them back, yes? Or destroyed, huh?
I'll bet she gets laid one symbolical time per season, and then the person gets killed.
But I won't count it out, if it comes to sweden within the next four years I'll watch it (S:AaB took three years from -96 to get here, and then the fuckers cancelled it).

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Don't kill me, I'm charming!

 


Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
I'm not sure about the whole sex as metaphor for isolation vs. the impermenance of love angle. As I recall, there's a bit of romantic tension between her (her being Max I think, ooh, there's a sexy name) and her friend/co-conspirator. Or is he the one named Max? I'll have to ask my mother, as she's the one person in my family who watches it. Anyway, he's a 733t underground journalist. Think Max Headroom, only less bizarre. And less cool.

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"Excuse me, Mr. Rampaging Killer? Why don't you put down the gun and take a look at this hand-held monkey? Does it not have clever little forepaws? It eats gum and sap!"
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L. Fitzgerald Sj�berg
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Read three (three!) chapters of "Dirk Tungsten in...The Disappearing Planet" and something pleasent will happen to you. Possibly involving syrup.



 


Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
And I'm not sure about the Pretender angle. I mean, she's supposedly smart and stuff, but mainly she kicks people and jumps through windows.

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"Excuse me, Mr. Rampaging Killer? Why don't you put down the gun and take a look at this hand-held monkey? Does it not have clever little forepaws? It eats gum and sap!"
--
L. Fitzgerald Sj�berg
****
Read three (three!) chapters of "Dirk Tungsten in...The Disappearing Planet" and something pleasent will happen to you. Possibly involving syrup.



 


Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Yah, she's got the whole romantic tension thing going for her wheel-chair bound partner.

They haven't shown her getting lucky yet. There was one episode where the feline DNA in her genetic makeup basically caused her to go into heat, so she spent the whole episode trying not to jump in the sack with everybody.

John Savage makes a kickass bad guy, but other than that, the show is highly predictable and fairly contrived. Jessica Alba's insane gorgeousness is the only thing keeping it afloat IMHO.

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"The sons of the Prophet were valiant and bold,
And quite unacustomed to fear.
But, of all, the most reckless, or so I am told,
Was Abdulah Boul Boul Ameer."
Aban's Illustration www.alanfore.com


 


Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
 
Agreed. If you really want a feminine genetically-improved heroine - go read Heinlein's "Friday" (I'm sure the writers did). It's on his "worst 3 books list" - but it's lightyears ahead of Dark Angel.

And yes, I worship RAH - but anyone can have a bad day (or write for money, as he put it).

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Sol, I didn't mean she and those like her were [i]like[/] the "Pretenders" in ways of infiltration and espionage, just that the layout of the organization and its members sounds similar. One leader or group of dito at the top, guarding the dream, then some powerful "generals" and section managers, then the foot soldiers and field operatives.

About the sex, I only meant that the heroes and heroines seldom get any, they're too busy saving the world or clearing their names.
(If the producers do show them some mercy and throw in some piece of meat, the subject often dies, have totally different goals and ambitions but wish the hero good luck, or they turn out to be a demon/alien/german war criminal/warlock/sellout.)

Duncan McCleod would be an exception that proves the rule, I seem to recall him having a blond girlfriend during the three seasons they aired in Sweden.
Makes for good debriefing and relaxation, I'll wager.

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Don't kill me, I'm charming!

 




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