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Posted by Stingray (Member # 621) on :

DS9 was the most intellectual, edgy, and well written of Trek shows.

My question is, what would DS9 say about the bombing? What kind of story do you think the writers would do and how would they handle it?

An episode, a story arc? Cardassians, Maquis, Dominion, something new? What kind of symbolism, character development, action, dialogue, etc?

Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on :

They tried during the Breen bombardment of Earth in "The Changing Face of Evil". Quite a good job at the time, but it doesn't even come close to the WTC crashes.

One thing that I will note however is Weyoun's quote saying that "the casualty rate is being revised upwards once again." Much like our current situation.

Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :

Or, currently, would will such shows based in NY such as "Third Watch" and "NYPD Blue" say, or how shows like "X-Files," "West Wing," or maybe "Enterprise" will incorporate this event into their storylines.

But onto DS9, I think they would have a bombing on Bajor or Deep Space Nine or maybe Earth that kills innocent people and children. Sisko and crew would try to figure out why someone would do this, and then realize evil is a part of life.

Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Oh, sure, 'cuz Kira certainly isn't used to bombs killing innocents, she was never a Bajoran terrorist. O'Brien never witnessed the massacre at Setlik III, and Sisko didn't lose his wife to the Borg.

::rolls eyes::

Pretty much goes without saying that the DS9 crew already knows there is evil afoot.

Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :

I know that, even though i illustrate webpages and write a lot of stories and comic books for myself, im nowhere near being a professional producer or writer like the guys who create the shows we watch and read about, but i think if i worked on the following shows i would just feel sick to my stomach, and probably resign.
West Wing
NYPD Blue
Third Watch
Law & Order (possibly)

I would have no way to even know how to address it, and certainly would not want to create any storytelling regarding the situation, and theres no way i would continue without addressing it. It causes me too much pain, and thats just as someone who is not involved except that i, like everyone else in my country, is American.
but thats just me

Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Two things reguarding Mike's post.

1. If you resigned from your job in light of what has happened - any job really. Or you Change YOUR way of living - then the Terrorists have WON. Simple as that. They have set out to destroy every peace-loving free, happy, loving human being's way of live on this planet.

2. Don't think that just because you are American, that it might hurt you more than anyone else. Granted it happened in America, and it involved Americans. Infact it involved like civilians from 30 countries. I believe there are like 50 people from Australia missing in the WTC, the planes, and the Pentagons - and that is just Australia - a long way down on those list of countries DIRECTLY effected by the losses of life. BUT it is not 'the American way of life' that has changed it has, as I said above EVERY, peaceful, democratic country and the good people that live in them. Infact it has changed even the NON democratic countries. I saw the bit about a Chinese family in a story related to Colin Powel by the Chinese foreign minister, that they had been on one of the planes ready to visit their children that lived in the United States. This is Extremist hate-terrorist groups and the people that support them against everyone else.

Back to the DS9 issue. DS9 is playing season 2 on 'cable' the ad for this weeks episode was for The Maquis part 1. It opens with the explosion of a Cardassian ship and the prospect of terrorism!

DS9 was STAR TREK - don't let anyone forget that underneath it's dark overtones. It was a vehicle for relating stories that effect us today, to us.

Speaking of that Cardassian ship... it looked to be a 'cardassian yellow' Merchantman! it even had the brown Cardie symbols on the 'wings'. Merchantman is quite a Carassian-esque ship.

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

I actually do hope that "Broken Bow" will have some sort of opening screen with a Thought-Provoking Remark (TM) about the terrorist attacks.

Posted by Hunter (Member # 611) on :

They might wait till the 5 episode, which from memory is the one about andorian terrorists. Unless they decide to refilm that ep.

Posted by Kosa (Member # 650) on :

I hope they don’t rewrite that episode. If they do it will join the ever-growing line of shows and movies that have been rewritten or completely cut because of the mere mention of something to do with terrorism. There was a story over here about what has been happening in Hollywood after the attacks, and granted allot of it is warranted, but I hope they don’t hack an episode of Enterprise to death or cut it because of it.

Posted by Fedaykin Supastar (Member # 704) on :

i know it isnt probably the best place to post this, but i agree with AndrewR 's sentiments on the topic.

Buzz

Posted by Brown_supahero (Member # 83) on :

DS9 is the best writen show, too bad they didn't get there shit together till the last two years of the series.

A show that got thier shit together early..... Stargate SG-1. 1st season shit, 2nd season good scripts

Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

I'm going to have to admit this - being the super-DS9 fan that I am - but... well I think Season 7 was probably the WORST of the seasons. The Finale wasn't anything to be proud of either. The only saving grace was Worf's "Minsk" line, the separation of Kira and Odo and the final scene with Kira and Jake at the window.

Season seven was only good in probably "Seige of AR-458", "Once More Unto the Breach", "Paper Moon" and "Badda Bing; Badda Bang"
best seasons
5 & 6
3 & 4
1 & 2
7
not the best seasons.

Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :

Well, i think that DS9 was at its best at the beginning of the war.. seeing it through to the end wasnt as exciting as that beginning, but i still found it extremely entertaining. And DS9s worst shows are still better than a certain other series' best shows...

in regards to my comment about not wanting to deal with terrorism or current events, its not that i dont think that such things should not be addressed and i certainly dont think we should shy away from the issues, im just saying that i enjoy entertainment for escapism, and my creative impulses are for the same reason. I'm more in the mood to watch 'Trials & Tribbleations' or 'City on the Edge of Forever' than i am to watch 'The High Ground' or 'The Changing Face of Evil' right now.. its personal. Thats also why im not illustrating my 3D models blowing up, im concentrating more on the paint jobs

Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :

In some way or another, all our lives changed after Sept. 11, 2001. I know that I don't feel like going to clubs anymore or going out to public places. I'm considering not to go to Aidswalk Los Angeles on Oct. 21 and the local Valley Pride festivities this weekend.

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

I've got to admit... my life and outlook hasn't changed all that much.

Oh, I've added a few names to the "Must Have Messily Killed When I Become Dictator" list, but that's about it.

I was never a flying candidate, I rarely go to large public gatherings, I'm too old for military service, and I didn't know anybody who knew anybody who died.

I'm angry about it, and I intend to stay angry about it until those responsible are slain, but all told, that's it.

I don't know what this says about me or my coping abilities.

Posted by Obese Penguin (Member # 271) on :

Somehow I dont see how Law and Order can work its way into this as a serious plot , seeing as this is an FBI investigation , of course thats not to say Brisco and Co. couldnt do a show based on the day of the attack , where they were on Sept. 11 , I'd like to see Brisco comment on it , I dunno.

Personally I would be perfectly happy if the industry left the attacks out of their story arcs right now , any attempt at basing a show on this attack could blow up in the face of the producers if done wrong.

On a lighter note , "In the Pale Moonlight" is my favorite episode of Ds9 , if not my favorite episode of any Star Trek Series.

It showed me the 24th century wasent perfect after all and that yes , the was a war going on. I got that feeling more from this character driven episode than from all of the CGI battle packed Season 7 shows.

[ October 03, 2001: Message edited by: Obese Penguin ]

Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :

Anybody else watch the "West Wing" episode about the attack?
Pretty good for an episode written and produced in four weeks.

Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Michael you HAVE to go on that walk. You HAVE to stick to what YOUR life is and not let it be affected by any stupid terrorist. If you change your way of life... then they've won.

So get out there and WALK.

Andrew