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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Not since "The Adversary" have I sat up so abruptly for the final shot of the show....

Oh, and the show kicked ass in a hokey Episode One way. Some really, really good dialogue, though, and nifty FX

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Posted by KXZ (Member # 119) on :

I really liked this episode. Great character interactiion, some continuity (!), and it just had a good feel. Right from the teaser I knew I'd like it. A lot of the episodes last season didn't make me want to sit and watch and pay a lot of attention. Wouldn't that be sad, and good at the same time, if the last season of Voyager turned out to be great?

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

I seriously liked this! It was very good! I especially liked the trade-off between Kim and the girl at gunpoint to Paris and Torres, and back again.

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Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :

I'm still..e.r.. *O_O*

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Posted by MIB on :

In all honesty, I thought the race episode, when I first heard about it, was going to suck. I just kept thinking back to that god awful wrestling episode and concluded that the Voyager writers are just incapable of mixing sports with Voyager succesfully. However, I don't need to tell you that I was wrong. I was definitly surprised when "Drive" turned out to be a pretty damn good episode.

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Posted by Jim Phelps (Member # 102) on :

It was a completely new thing for Star Trek, and I didn't even mind that they obviously wanted to parallel the real-world Olympics (a time when all the wars would be suspended in ancient Greece). However, the marriage came a bit too fast IMHO. On a minor note, what's so horrible about a Level 5 diagnostic?

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Posted by Galen (Member # 72) on :

Odd mixture of new ships and recycled ones. Ozal was cruising around in a Karemma ship. I also noticed a Devore Imperium cruiser and the shuttle from that race that sabotaged the Borg Vinculum, Species 6885 or something, among the racers. Did anyone see if the Flyer had a '2' affixed to the end of the name? My reception isn't great. I could not tell.

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

Nope, no "II."

Nice that we finally get t'see what those hatch things on the side of the ship are.

Anyone else look at 1st Ziyal's ship & immediately think of the Liberator from "Blake's 7?"

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Well, a level five diagnostic, according to the TNG tech manual, is performed pretty well constantly by the computer on all major systems, and only takes about twenty seconds. 'Course, that was ten years ago. On DS9, it's backwards. A level 5 diagnostic is one of the most thorough kinds, where you pretty well take the system apart piece by piece. I suppose that it's plausable to say that it wasn't actually a change because DS9 is a Cardie station, but that it was a fleetwide change, and thus would have affected Voyager before she left. Or maybe it has something to do with the datastreams back to Earth...

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

Well, Paris did mention that the Flyer was rebuilt, if that means anything.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

According to the DS9 tech. manual, the reverse order of diagnostics is Cardassian in origin.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Well, yeah, but the DS9 tech manual is pretty well screwed up, you know.

I'm betting that was just a cop-out explaination for why the series' used different numbering schemes, 'cause some writer screwed up somewheres. I like my explaination better.

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

But why on Earth, or why in the Milky Way, I suppose, would anyone do that?

"We've rethought things, and from now on green means stop and red means go. Yellow or amber means bow down to the avenging Elder Gods. You might want to keep an eye out for that yellow one."

Also, not having seen the episode yet, would someone mind telling me what we're talking about?

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Shik, what hatches on the side of the ship are you talking about?

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

The ones that now seem to be "auxiliary thrusters"...

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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :

Since I don�t get to see these episodes, anyone got screencaps of the ships?

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

"auxiliary thrusters"? No... They're "impulse thrusters". Powerful stuff. Basically just small impulse vents, from what it looks like.

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Where are they at? Are you talking about the ones on Deck 1 or the ones attached to the warp nacelle pylons?

Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

I was hoping those would be the escape pod hatches on the sides of the Delta Flyer since I can't find any other place for them to be.

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Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

Two things.

Could the Flyer be big enough to have escape pods?

I went to the Trekbbs this morning, to see what they thought of the episode, and almost no one liked it. I was surprised by that, since I liked it so much, but I thoughyt maybe it was me, but then I come here, and you guys liked it as much as I did. I think I'll stay out of there Voyager forum.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

As I recall, the Flyer's escape pod was less a pod than a Harry-shaped box, and not something that required any great amount of space to store.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Not-necessarily-vague spoilers in this post... Stop reading if you don't want them...

Okay, I've finally seen it today... One question, Tom... What made you sit up so abruptly about the DF w/ "Just Married" scrawled on the back and some sort of storage media trailing behind?

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

The Delta Flyer escape pod was seen in "Good Shepard", and since they mention 'pods' there's more than one. Which seems reasonable since a DF escape pod is only big enough for 1 person.

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Posted by Black Knight (Member # 134) on :

Well, that episode did kick some serious butt. I always love getting new special FX shots too.

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Tim: Because, in a pseudo-Sixth Sense kinda way, it made the entire preceeding scene take on a whole different meaning. (now getting to hardly-vague-$-at-all) It was, at first glance, a scene of the two of them celebrating their engagement. Only afterwards did I realize that B'elanna had, in fact, done better than say yes to Tom, and that we'd had an Off-Camera wedding, which in itself is just such a cool idea that it boggles the mind.

Besides, you have to agree that the cans were cool.

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Sternbach has said, via his newsgroup, that the impulse engine thingies are indeed where the escape pod thingies were before. As to where the escape pod thingies are now, well, good question.

I just like to say thingies.

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Posted by Toadkiller (Member # 425) on :

Very vague spoilers, but if you're this far down the page.

Did anyone else thing the alien "cruisers" like the race coordinator showed up in (not in the race) looked somewhat Akira-like in profile?

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

I didn't notice that... I did think that Tora Ziyal the First's ship was vaguely Y-wing-like... :-)

Tom: Oh, okay. The wedding rings they were wearing tipped me off, but I guess you just didn't see that...

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Posted by monkeyboy on :

Not y wing like more likethat thing anakin used in episode1

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

I know such things as continuity in Braga-run Trek is considered heresy, but Paris was expelled? Was this ever mentioned before? Also, if he was expelled how could he of made officer when he didn't even graduate from the Academy?

According to my Paris personnel profile I have that he majored in astrophysics and went to Marseilles, France for physical training during his second semester.

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

I'm not sure we ever found out when in his career it was that Paris' shuttle accident/coverup got him booted out of Starfleet. He mentioned serving aboard a ship at one point, but this all could've been at the Academy. Just because Janeway granted him a commission of Lt. JG in Caretaker, doesn't necessarily mean he had attained that rank before. She may have felt that he simply warrented that rank based on his experience. There may have been a line somewhere that confirms he did indeed graduate, but if there is I can't remember it.

Why are we calling the pointy eared hottie Torya Ziyal the First? Is it the same actress? I didn't notice.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Yes, it is the same actress.

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Posted by Galen (Member # 72) on :

Well the Encyclopedia says Tom graduated from Starfleet Academy. B'Elanna may have been referring to the fact he was expelled from Starfleet after the shuttle accident. Though the word expel usually refers to school. It looks like Irina was the only one to get a new ship. Everyone else had reuses from earlier episodes.

Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Methinks someone on the writing staff got their Locarnoes crossed.

Of course, it would be cool if Paris went to the academy under an assumed name, was the head pilot of the Academy's precision-flight squadron, hung around with an ex-child-genius late of the Enterprise, was expelled and then found himself back in Starfleet only to be kicked out again a mere two years later.

Improbable, but cool.

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Galen: No, the lines went something like:

Paris: "It's what got me through the Academy."
Torres: "You were expelled!"

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

I remember knowing that Paris was expelled since the first episode, but that might have come from the Caretaker novel or some other profile thing.

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