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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
When Voyager gets home, I seriously doubt that Starfleet will simply "forgive & forget."

Janeway: Captain of the ship. She will most likely be court-martialed, although I'm sure her circumstances will be taken into consideration. I think she'll weather the storm, although her reputation won't quite be what it once was.

Chakotay: Once a traitor, always a traitor. Starfleet may drop the charges against him in consideration of his actions aboard Voyager, but I doubt they'll trust him in a Starfleet uniform. Regardless of what happened later with the Cardassians, Chakotay chose his loyalty -- and it wasn't to the Federation.

Tom Paris: While Tom may get a pardon, I'm not so sure if Starfleet will have a place for him or not. I'm giving Tom a 50/50% chance of being allowed to remain in Starfleet or being given the boot. We've seen others get a chance after being incarcerated (Ensign Ro springs to mind), so I wouldn't be surprised if Tom stays in Starfleet this time.

Torres: Of course, it's highly doubtful Tom will stay in Starfleet unless he can get a posting on a Galaxy-Class ship, what with his wife's situation. She didn't graduate from Starfleet Academy. She betrayed the Federation to fight for the Maquis. While her crimes may be pardoned, I highly doubt she'll be allowed to remain within the ranks.

Harry Kim: I don't know about this guy. I see two options -- he stays in Starfleet (hopefully getting a promotion) and continues to boldly go where no one has gone before, or he resigns from the 'fleet, visits his parents, and spends more time enjoying life.

The Doctor: It's not so easy to just flip the guy off anymore. With his whatever-it-is that allows him to walk around, I think the Doc will first get the Fed courts to recognize his sentience, and then spend some time living life before possibly returning to a CMO post on a starship.

Tuvok: I think Tuvok'll have the easiest time of all. I think another leave of absense from Starfleet will be coming as he reunites with his family. As to whether or not he returns to the service is anyone's guess.

Seven of Nine & Icheb: Both ex-Borg, neither are going to get into Starfleet as easily as some fan-boys might think. Icheb'll have the easiest time getting through the Academy, he seems to have adapted to life as a human easier than Seven has.

I don't know how well Seven will adjust to life at Starfleet Academy if she chooses that route. Frankly, I think she'll find Capt. Janeway and spend some time exploring what it's like to be human, and on Earth.

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Since Neelix apparently won't make it back to Earth, I won't comment.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Far more likely, I think, is that they're all turned into huge media icons by Starfleet's PR wing and spend a good portion of the next decade traveling the UFP lecture circuit.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
"She's explored the far flung reaches of the galaxy, encountered civilizations none of us will ever see, been assimilated by the Borg and managed to fend off the half hearted advances of that traitorous Maquis dog, Chakotay... Ladies and gentlemen (and all manner of androgonous creatures) put your hands, flippers and tentacles together for...She's just amazing...Captain Kathryn Janeway...."

*5 people are heard clapping in a darkened room*

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And quite unacustomed to fear.
But, of all, the most reckless, or so I am told,
Was Abdulah Boul Boul Ameer."
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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
See, one thing everyone's forgetting is that the Federation is run by idiots. There's no telling what they'll do.

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
Well, the post-war Federation can use some heroes.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Starfleet is run by idiots. Which is why Janeway's command can be explained.

The Federation's gotta be doing something right to have 150 member worlds ...

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"I think this reason why girls don't do well on multiple choice tests goes all the way back to the Bible, all the way back to Genesis, Adam and Eve. God said, 'All right, Eve, multiple choice or multiple orgasms, what's it going to be?' We all know what was chosen" - Rush Limbaugh, Feb. 23, 1994.

 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
No, the Federation is run by idiots. Remember Jaresh-"I didn't ask to be president"-Inyo? :-)

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Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
 
Yes, didn't you know they just simply BOUGHT them from the Ferengi???

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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
 
I know this sounds dense, but what would Janeway be court-martialled FOR? Considering the relations and status Voyager currently hold with the Alpha Quadrant, I don't see much horrible happening. But perhaps I'm being naive.
 
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
I suppose it all depends on how you read the prime directive. Since we don't have the text, we can't say.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
No one will get court-martialed or incarcerated, they've done too much good for the federation, and have held out against great odds, AND paved the way for the federation having a name in the delta quad.

Besides, the Federation have been in contact with Janeway & Co many times, even tried to consolate them ("we're doing everything we can, "your families miss you"). Not to mention Admiral Paris' feelings towards Voyager.
They would've informed Janeway at the earliest point, and showed their policy about whatever it is you think she's done wrong.
They wouldn't turn 180 degrees at the homecoming, slap handcuffs on half the senior staff, and go "NOW YOU WILL PAY FOR WHAT YOU DID SEVEN YEARS AGO AND THE ALLEGIANCE YOU HAD THEN(although we should've defended your maquis-comrades against the dominion for purely ethical reasons)!!

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
OTOH, if Starfleet had told what it REALLY wanted to do with Janeway and her crew before the ship reached home, Janeway could simply have turned around and fled.

Better wait until the last moment to spring the trap...

Seriously speaking, Starfleet will definitely perform extensive interrogations regarding the ship and its adventures. Traditionally, such interrogations have been called "court martial" in case the ship was lost, even if no fault was found in the captain concerning the loss. Will the Voyager be lost? If not, will the interrogations go by another name?

I must say I'm not very thrilled about the current spoilers regarding the finale. It seems we will completely miss the moment the ship finally gets home, and will have to settle for confusing "AGT"-style flash-forwards instead. The homecoming parade would definitely have been a moment to put apart Voyager from all the other shows and movies...

Timo Saloniemi
 


Posted by Gaseous Anomaly (Member # 114) on :
 
No way. Too sappy and...uughh.

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
For me personally...I have my own visual image of Voyager's return.

Anyone ever read "The Wounded Sky" by Diane Duane? It's one of my favorite Trek novels & it was partially used as a foundation for the S1 TNG ep "Where No One Has Gone Before," the one that introduced the Traveller. Anyway, at the end, Enterprise comes some to Sol (no, not YOU Simon..!) and..well...best you read for yourself:

"Enterprise was not alone out there, She had escort. The screen was filled with ships closing in on her, all with screens up. A few of them had already matched velocities and vectors with her and were riding close around, at the fringes of the mandatory five-kilometer traffic boundary. Those closest ships were heavy cruisers of her own class: Indomitable, Potemkin, Surak, Isshasshte, Tao Feng, John F. Kennedy, the new Intrepid. Their screens flared with the average index-colors of their stars-of-registration--Surak and Intrepid with Vulcan's fierce blue, Isshasshte with Deneb's blue-white, Tao Feng and Potemkin and Kennedy with the tamer yellow-white of Sol. Far out in the dark, and closing, more ships yet came riding in with screens tuned to their stars' colors. Jim swallowed the lump in his throat out of the way of speech. 'Answer colors, Mr. Sulu,' he said. 'We went out there for all of them. Continuous spectrum, infrared to ultraviolet.'"

It goes one to describe giant Starfleet cruisers & battleships, smaller cutter patrol craft, civilian ships, & mentions that "one screen Jim noticed particularly, as they rod in toward Mars's orbit together: an actinic white deflector screen bright with the fire of the faraway Klingon homestar. Manhattan wore that screen, holding the place-at-honors till the day the Klingons should join the Federation."

Imagine seeing that same scene with Voyager as she transits the Sol corridor & enters Earth orbit., spatial charges going off as fireworks, ships floating about to see the lone Starfleet vessel that truely braved it all, recalling the early "rough & ready" days of the Federation even a mere hundred years earlier.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I'm all for having a bunch of ships welcome the old girl home, but it needs to be more than a parade (leaving alone the fact for the moment that shields have never shown up until they are hit...). I'd like to see them arrive in the middle of something.

And I do agree that the series simply fast forwarding to several years after they return home would be a little anti-climactic.

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"The sons of the Prophet were valiant and bold,
And quite unacustomed to fear.
But, of all, the most reckless, or so I am told,
Was Abdulah Boul Boul Ameer."
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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
 
Ahh, "The Wounded Sky!" One of the better Star Trek books I've read. Parades are nice. Flash forwards WOULD be kinda anti-climatic. And ... stupid. But, how are they going to traverse the final 25,000 ly or whatever in five episodes? Are we going to get a wormhole or something? Are they even getting home? I haven't read any of the rumors.
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Tha's good, son, don't! I shall hold out against the tempting devil's spawn of spoilers, to the last ounce of my strength! HAHAAAAAH!!!

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Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
 
Apparently, from what I gather, the story goes that they don't reach Earth for another 20 years... so the ship's only been home for a few (weeks/months?) in the flashforward.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
That's kind of what I'm picturing, assuming the flash forward idea is even true.

My guess is we'll alternate between two time frames. The "flash forward" one where Voyager has been home for some time and whatever is going to happen then, is happening. And the "current" one which will end with Voyager continuing on her way home.

According to that theory, the series would end without her ever reaching Earth, but we'd know that she will eventually. That's only my guess though. I'm not basing it on anything.

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"The sons of the Prophet were valiant and bold,
And quite unacustomed to fear.
But, of all, the most reckless, or so I am told,
Was Abdulah Boul Boul Ameer."
Aban's Illustration www.alanfore.com


 


Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
 
Gah! Oh the humanity! So what is this, a typical Voyageresque episode ending applied to a series?
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I didn't say I approved of such an ending...I simply said that's what I'm expecting

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"The sons of the Prophet were valiant and bold,
And quite unacustomed to fear.
But, of all, the most reckless, or so I am told,
Was Abdulah Boul Boul Ameer."
Aban's Illustration www.alanfore.com


 


Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
 
Didn't mean to sound as though I were criticizing you, Aban. Just, oh, God. That would be horrible. Please let the ruler of the universe not be THAT sadistic.
 
Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :
 
Yes, she is. Everyone knows the ruler of the universe is a 300 lb. black lesbian named "Kwandalesha" who drives a Harley Hog.

:-)

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
She's a vegetarian too. So there's no reasoning with her.

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :
 
Don't you mean "Vag-itarian", Liam? *L*

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Posted by Conundrum (Member # 702) on :
 
I couldn't give you a real answer but being in the military myself and basically the starfleet is in comparison to the military of today then:

1) Every member of the crew will get a mass courtmartial for either committing the breech of the prime directive or allowing someone else too.

2) They'll get locked away for several years of entarigation

3) Everything will get stamped 'Top Secret' and no one will ever know anything for another hundred or so years...

and 4) The doctor will most definately get thrown in the junk pile and upgraded to the latest version of EMH.
 


Posted by PopMaze (Member # 302) on :
 
Conundrum, since you have missed out on the 7th season of Voyager there will be spoilers for you in this post in response to your post. (Might be spoilers for other people as well, so be warned)
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A court-marshal for everone is a possibility, but you've got a crew of appoximately 150 to deal with. If they do press forward with one, Janeway will most likely get the brunt of accusations. Charges could also get dropped and I believe none would get sent to prison. Knowing the rumours for ST:X, this seems likely as Janeway will appear as an officer...an admiral no less. It seems she gets a promotion. So they don't go forward with the court-marshals. There will be some information marked as Top Secret, but since Voyager had made real-time contact with Starfleet, a lot of information has already been spread through the Federation. As for the Doc, as the final episode suggests, he will not get thrown into the junk pile. He will either remain as Voyager's CMO or get a transfer to Starfleet Medical. The only upgrading he'll get is probably a change in uniform and commbadge.
 




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