In a one world government where would the European Alliance come from???
I didn't catch the ep.s title... but it is from the one where the Ferengi crash the wormhole bidding...
Troi was checking on the negotiators, the human male inparticular, and his birthplace was Brussels, European Alliance...
Posted by Springfield Armory Snay (Member # 411) on :
It's a really big state.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Perhaps it's like the US or Canada with "states," or like "seaQuest's" UEO with various member confederations.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Presumably, individual places are referred to by the names they were using just before they joined the world gov't.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
So, this would indicate that Alaska, North America, seceded from the US, as in Riker's case....
Posted by ThoughtPyminal (Member # 480) on :
eh? Riker's case?
Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
It's a large duffelbag, roughly 586,000 square miles in size.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Well, they've said "USA" before haven't they? Why's that any more likely to exist that a European Alliance?
Although I don't get why they didn't just say "Germany". They are quite happy to say "England", "France" and "Canada".
Posted by Prismatic EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
because saying "Germany" makes baby jesus cry.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Ah, but the half-Betazoid came from Brussels, not from Germany. How can we be sure which country that city will belong to in the 24th century, given the enthusiasm with which those people have been pulling their turf apart (ever since Napoleon cut-and-pasted that country for them)?
And I'm positive that the people from Brussels will be associated with the bureaucracy of the EU till the end of days, no matter what happens to the nations around them.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Colourblind Harry (Member # 265) on :
So we go from European Union (We Are Married) to European Hegemony (Where's My Dinner, Bitch!) to European Alliance (We're Still Friends).
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
You missed "European Community (Can I play too?)" from the start of that list.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Well, perhaps there's a somewhat complex level of "world government" on Earth in the Federation. (And reasonably on other worlds, too.) If we consider the current "trend" of creating "mega-countries" -- like the European Union and the new African Union, then perhaps in the future, the United Nations (or another world government) becomes the global government, but the former nations retain their identity as divisions for local authority, much like there are states and counties in the US. Therefore, the individual countries (France or European Union, etc.) survive in some form as local administrative districts. Or something like that.
Posted by Colourblind Harry (Member # 265) on :
That would be very logical. I suspect a world government can't really function properly without considerable power of 'local authorities' (the former countries).
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Yes, barring Picard's little S1 instance of misplaced loyalty, nationalism does seem to be somewhat buried & gone by the 2360s.
Seriously, man. I though he was about to break out into the Marseillaise & subject the crew to croissants & a Jerry Lewis film festival or something.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
What instance of misplaced loyalty? Him saying "Merde"?
Surely that's just the same as one of the American characters saying "bastard", or O'Brien saying "bollocks"?
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
I think he means the scene where Data says that French is a stupid language and Picard gets really angry. Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Yeah, they were talking about color combinations of flags & shit, & Picard got this dreamy faraway look on his face when they talked about the tricolor�.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
It isn't the most original flag design in the world, is it?
Who started that flag design anyway? And why haven't they sued?
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
Perhaps the European Alliance was formed right after the french developed british accents.
Posted by Hunter (Member # 611) on :
Who started that flag design anyway? And why haven't they sued?
The French Tricolre was the first flag of it's type, dating back to 1794 for the present arrangement (before that it was the same colours, only reversed) Of course it is hard to sue of because its just a arrangement of colours and geometric shapes. Besides nobody could be bothered listining to the boring vexillogily experts.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Perhaps there's a Planet Brussels or a Brusels System, and he wanted to differentiate. And maybe the existence of the European Alliance has become so common that the idea of saying he comes from Belgium would be about the same as Picard saying he comes from Gaul.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
The Tricoleur-type flag is used by countries that have formed via a revolution. (Not every country that has done this uses that type of flag but there are a few).
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