[ October 18, 2007, 05:36 PM: Message edited by: Fabrux ]
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Oh my.. I can't imagine him in a serious role. I bet he can pull it off, but it'll be odd in the first few scenes.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Cool! But odd, too. Like Doohan, he's not Scottish either, but can probably pull off the accent a little better. Do you think they'll have him dye his hair brown?
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
SPOILERS $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $
Plus:
1. Eric Bana as the villain "Nero"...possibly a Romulan?
2. John Cho as Sulu, and
3. POSSIBLY Chris Pine as Kirk.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Trek Fuzz
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Damnit, I was hoping Paul McGillion was going to be cast.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
That I don't get.
Simon Pegg will I guess be fantastic or woefully miscast? Ambiguity!
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Is he going to dye his hair?
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Doesn't he do that already?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Not only him but they got Sulu too...or did we already know that?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Yes. Well, we? The Sulu casting broke first, anyway.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
And, maybe Karl Urban as McCoy. Hmm.
I wonder how much will leak about this film? They're building sets now, so presumably the look of the film has already been decided. Is it gonna be classic Trek models, sets and costumes, or will they update it subtly to avoid the more dated-looking elements? Given no-one really knows what Abrams' next film Cloverfield/1-18-08 is about yet, they could well be able to keep a lid on this one as well. . .
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
In the past Paramount's Star Trek marketing hasn't really consisted of much beyond the official party organs, has it? But I wouldn't be surprised, considering the parties involved, to see some sort of trendy slow-burn viral thing. Solve a puzzle and see a blurry photo of a new old new uniform.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
The only role I've ever seen him in is as the youngest Tremor brother in Smokin' Aces. Which isn't exactly a good measure of his acting talent, y'know. I'll withhold judgment on this one.
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lee: And, maybe Karl Urban as McCoy. Hmm.
I wonder how much will leak about this film? They're building sets now, so presumably the look of the film has already been decided. Is it gonna be classic Trek models, sets and costumes, or will they update it subtly to avoid the more dated-looking elements? Given no-one really knows what Abrams' next film Cloverfield/1-18-08 is about yet, they could well be able to keep a lid on this one as well. . .
There's already a possible story leak online. I think that was on Aint It Cool as well. To be honest, it sounded a bit iffy, every film has its share of plot holes. I'm still confident it'll be a great movie.
Posted by Eclipse (Member # 472) on :
Uh, yeah, Simon already posted that.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Adapted from a much-earlier posting on another board, here's an examination of ages. . .
Scott 2222 (44) - Doohan was 46 - Pegg is 37 McCoy 2227 (39) - Kelley was 46 - Urban is 35 Spock 2230 (36) - Nimoy was 35 - Quinto is 30 Kirk 2233 (33) - Shatner was 35 - Pine is 27 Uhura 22? (20something) - Nichols was 33 - Saldana is 29 Sulu 22? (20something) - Takei was 29 - Cho is 35 Chekov 2245 (22 in 2267, when he first appeared in TOS season 2, consistent with going to the Starfleet Academy at age 18 and graduating after a standard 4 years) - Koenig was 31 when he started on the show - Yelchin is 18
Of course, add another year onto the new actors' ages by the time the film comes out. . .
Posted by mada101 (Member # 1285) on :
You have to consider, though, that the new movie sadly won't be sticking to canon (after all, we know from John Eaves' recent comments that the Enterprise is getting an overhaul, for starters). Therefore, the Enterprise crew can be any age and have known each other from any time period (Checkov may have been aboard for a few years in the new film, for example).
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
quote:Originally posted by mada101: after all, we know from John Eaves' recent comments that the Enterprise is getting an overhaul
What comments? Link?
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Regarding the ages of the characters, we only know three for sure: Kirk ("Deadly Years"), McCoy ("Farpoint") and Scotty ("Relics"). Spock, being an alien mongrel, is a complete mystery; the others are guesswork (although Chekov perhaps a bit less than the rest, if the assumptions about his recent graduation hold true).
So, the known three being ten years younger in XI as compared with TOS sounds pretty good...
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by B.J.:
quote:Originally posted by mada101: after all, we know from John Eaves' recent comments that the Enterprise is getting an overhaul
What comments? Link?
I hope Eaves isn't doing the work on it.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Originally posted by mada101: You have to consider, though, that the new movie sadly won't be sticking to canon (after all, we know from John Eaves' recent comments that the Enterprise is getting an overhaul, for starters). Therefore, the Enterprise crew can be any age and have known each other from any time period (Checkov may have been aboard for a few years in the new film, for example).
explain this please? will the ship follow ENT lines? i.e. Feddy ships never had that golden deflector age? ts always been the blue disc of smurfy?
explain, and provide links and tea while yer at it Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
So I guess this is a reboot?
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
According to TrekToday, Eaves is doing work on the film.
Dammit. Call Sternbach or Probert? Nooooo, of course not. (sigh)
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: So I guess this is a reboot?
Why? If they redesign the Enterprise that makes it a reboot?
Posted by OverRon (Member # 2036) on :
I'd be happy if they redisgned it, as it just looks too basic nowdays. I really like that fan version of the Enterpise that was designed by the FX bloke who works on BSG. And I wouldn't consider it a reboot.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
There are some plot rumors, but I don't think any of them are more definitive than any others.
(That is, they're all very rumory.)
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
quote:Originally posted by OverRon: I'd be happy if they redisgned it, as it just looks too basic nowdays. I really like that fan version of the Enterpise that was designed by the FX bloke who works on BSG. And I wouldn't consider it a reboot.
That design is an interesting interpretation, but in my opinion it's hideous. I think the original design could still work on the big screen without having unnecessary details plonked all over the hull, but it doesn't surprise me that they're changing it anyway. I just hope Eaves doesn't make it pointy. He has a habit of making pointy ships. And the 1701 is not pointy.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Ugh, watch out - the Enterprise will now have large wedge-shaped nacelles.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Yeah, I wouldn't have minded any number of designers working on the Enterprise, but not Eaves. Not only does he have a habit of making things pointy, but he tends to add details that just don't make any sense or have any purpose. Others (Jeffries, Probert, Sternbach, etc.) didn't add unnecessary detail unless there was a reason for it. Eaves tends to go overboard.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Shhh! Headquarters Casting agency are looking for backgrounds/extras under the code name "Corporate Headquarters" for new Star trek Film.
Here are the details:
Project: The SAG feature film "Corporate Headquarters" is seeking background talent.
Dates: Shoot starts early November.
Seeking the following types, ages 18-70, any ethnicity:
Cadets: young, fresh-faced
Military types: marching experience preferred
Thin, regal talent with BROWN or BLACK hair AND are OK with their eyebrows being shaved from the arch outward to portray a Vulcan-type eyebrow shape.
Talent with interesting and unique facial features such as: long necks, small heads, extremely large heads, wide-set eyes, bug eyes, close-set eyes, large forehead, short upper lip, pronounced cheekbones, over- or undersized ears and/or nose, facial deformities, ultra plain-looking people, ultra perfect-looking people, pure wholesome looks, twins, triplets, emaciated talent, regally poised and postured talent, or other visually unique characteristics
Everyone must be thin, athletic, fit; wardrobe will be form-fitting. All hair lengths on males and females welcome.
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Hours: 2:30-5 p.m.
Address: 3108 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91505 (across from Pinocchio's Restaurant)
Bring: Close-up full facial NON-SMILING snapshot AND a waist-up body shot in Fitted Clothing. Ladies with long hair, PLEASE pull your hair back in a severe ponytail. Do not wear heavy makeup in your photograph. If your hair is long, let the ponytail length show over your shoulder. If you do not have these photos, we will take them of you for free. Wear fitted clothing for the photo.
You may e-mail photos (as described) with contact info and stats to [email protected] , but we prefer to meet you at the open call and get you digitally on file for this project. For information, (310) 556-2626.
If you have previously attended a daily open call for this, you do not have to come in again. Thanks!
Bastards!
Posted by Ventriloquists Got Shot (Member # 239) on :
extremely large heads
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
*shakes his belly like a bowl full of jell-o* Sigh.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
I just really want to see one picture of someone in the uniform, really. Then we'll be able to judge the look of the piece, if they change or update it at all, or leave it the same. . .
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Oh, yes: In the last Trek film, the new XO of the Enterprise was played by an actor who'd previously portrayed Robert F. Kennedy on film (twice!); in the new Trek film, the previous commander of the Enterprise is played by someone who'd previously portrayed John F. Kennedy on film. Yup, Bruce Greenwood is Pike. Is synchronicity, ja?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
WHUT.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
The question no one seems to be asking is, who will portray Dr. Piper? He was the CMO on the Enterprise in "WNMHGB," before McCoy started serving on the Enterprise. That is, unless McCoy was an out-of-sight assistant. And, for that matter, what about Kevin Riley?
Methinks these men will be conveniently forgotten in this movie. Not that I really care, personally.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
DC Comics and Vonda McIntire both wrote "first mission" stories for Kirk and the Enterprise.
In one of them, I don't remember which, they had McCoy state that he had some important event coming up and this explained his absence in WNMHGB.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
I don't blame him a bit. "So you gonna undertake a mission to beyond the galactic rim? Uh, I have this very important event coming up, you go right along, Jim..."
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
"See how the Great Barrier scrambles *your* molecules first!"
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
And now Winona Ryder is Amanda Grayson.
Seriously, this thing is like Irwin Allen, Charleton Heston, & Ernest Borgnine away from a disaster flick. In more ways than one.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
I thought the Winona Ryder thing was a joke when I first heard it...then realized it was all too true after being confirmed on Statrek.com.
She's only six years older than Quinto...so she had him when she was six? Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Perhaps there's a flashback structure to the film, like Batman Begins. I read somewhere (no idea where) that the film may feature scenes of Kirk's birth/early childhood. If the same is true of Spock then it would make sense to hire younger actors and make them up to look old than try to make an older actor to look young.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Oh man, now there are Carol Marcus rumors?
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
I think people have just made a list of all the female characters from Kirk's past, not taking into account that any of the pretty women cast lately could be his alien babe of the week. I mean, that's the real litmus test for the movie, isn't it? The Enterprise can be shaped like a flying spork, but if Kirk isn't a womanising manwhore, it's not Star Trek.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
So, from the uniform pics I gather they're reshooting "Return of the Archons"?
"You are not of the body..."
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Heh. Spork. That word just strikes me as so funny...
Are those like...raincoats, or actual costumes? They look like Acolytes from WC3...
Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
I just came from the open casting call... so hopefully I'll end up wearing a Starfleet cadet uniform with Vulcan ears down the road.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
quote:Paramount is making an effort not to show off the costumes as you can tell by the images below. All of the �extras� are required to wear long black trench coats to cover the costumes but even then a few details were still revealed.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Then what's the point of the pictures?
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
No news is good news. Any Trek news is better news. Er. . .
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Possible Plot Points: (Probably TNG era) Romulans (led by �Nero�) use the Guardian of Forever to go back and Kill Kirk Older Spock goes back and enlists the help of younger Spock (before he met Kirk) to set things right Audience first introduced to Kirk when he is performing the Kobayashi Maru test This is all fairly plausible and is along the lines of the original AICN plot rumors. TrekMovie.com had already confirmed that the plot involves time traveling Romulans and that the Kobayashi Maru scenario will be seen. Recently a source told TrekMovie.com that older Spock (and presumably the Romulans) are �post-TNG era.� Probably the biggest new item in the above story would the inclusion of the Guardian of Forever (the sentient time portal from �City on the Edge of Forever�). One source recently told TrekMovie.com that something like the GoF was being built on the Paramount lot, but this was dismissed by another source who said that this was more likely the opening to a cave. Perhaps they both were right.
In my personal opinion, it makes Star Trek Beginnings seem ingenious by comparison. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ End of Spoilers $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I dunno; I wouldn't mind seeing the Kobayashi Maru test. But the rest of it certainly sounds hokey. But has anyone read the plot for "Yesteryear" lately?
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
The potential objections to this are nthfold. . .
The Guardian of Forever is one of the biggest Yeah-buts in Trek. A sentient-but-not-too-bright-to-the-point-of-gullibility time machine-portal-thingy that doesn't seem to care (or at least be able to stop) who goes through it to do who-knows-what to the timeline? Not much of a Guardian if you ask me.
At this point, the GoF could be the solution to so many problems that've been encountered in Trek that to use it now almost seems like lazy plotting. Furthermore, of all the interesting scenarios that use of the GoF COULD have introduced to Trek, the straight "we have to go back in time to stop the baddies from changing the past and thus the present" plot really IS lazy plotting. This will be the fourth Trek film to involve some sort of time travel.
Another thing: it could undermine the Kirk-Spock relationship, which is based on an unparalleled level of mutual trust and understanding. How's that going to play out when this movie will show that right at the start of their friendship, young Spock was conducting a secret mission most likely without young Kirk knowing about it?
It also undermines one of the greatest scenes in Trek: Spock's self-sacrifice at the end of TWoK. Now he's going to know that he survives to a much older age than he obviously was at that time. And any reset of the timeline at the end of this film won't wash, and neither will having his memory wiped (even if by his older self) - this is Sposkc we're talking about!
But, despite all that, I think I could stand to watch this movie.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Why would "post-TNG" Romulans want to kill Kirk?
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
I would bet money that the above report is not accurate in the slightest. None of that is going to be in this film. Except maybe the Kobayashi Maru.
Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
Well... that made me sick just now. Using canon as canon fodder isn't exactly what I had in mind.
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: I would bet money that the above report is not accurate in the slightest. None of that is going to be in this film. Except maybe the Kobayashi Maru.
But it is similar to the Ain't It Cool spoilers posted a while ago.
My opinion is, it's not perfect, but nothing involving time-travel ever is. The plot's quite similar to First Contact in many ways, and while that's my favourite movie, it also has gigantic plot holes.
It is an interesting way to reboot and (unfortunately) rewrite Trek history, as the original series will be the original timeline and this new series of films will be set in an alternate version. In that respect, the concerns about Spock knowing he was going to survive in TWoK aren't relevant, as those events happened in the original timeline where NimoySpock never spoke to QuintoSpock. It's giving me a head ache thinking about it, so I'm just gonna accept whatever happens I guess.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote: Another thing: it could undermine the Kirk-Spock relationship, which is based on an unparalleled level of mutual trust and understanding. How's that going to play out when this movie will show that right at the start of their friendship, young Spock was conducting a secret mission most likely without young Kirk knowing about it?
That's assuming Sylar-Spock knows the true identity of Nimoy-Spock. He could be taking on an alias, perhaps even the same one he took in Yesteryear. Anyway, it's all unconfirmed rumours at this point and sketchy ones at that so I wouldn't get to excited about it either way just yet. Actually, I wouldn't put it past J.J.Abrams to leak false info to keep people guessing, so there's no telling for sure this early in the game.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I'd leak false information like *crazy* if I were writing a Trek movie. Everything from a Star Wars crossover to Amanda Tapping starring in it to Picard marrying Wesley...plus a whole group of more plausible rumors, snatches of plots and ideas that would be good but which I didn't plan to use. Why doesn't that kind of thing happen with *every* movie that expects the danger of pre-release leaks and rumors?
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Let's get to the crux of the matter here, people (and also back to what this thread was originally about):
The greatest idea TPTB could have ever done to renew interest in Star Trek is to remake the Original Series in a movie format (NOT a television series) with a new cast playing the old roles, instead of pretty much any other idea involving a new cast of characters on a new ship in a new series that, as has been proven with Enterprise, was not even remotely new at all. I'd go so far as to say that there probably isn't one person on this board who thinks that the concept of this movie is a bad idea.
None of the actors they've cast as the main roles are people I've ever even heard of or seen before. To me, this is a good thing. I have no preconceived notions about how any of these actors will portray their roles. Zachary Quinto could act exactly like Leonard Nimoy circa 1960's, and I'd be happy. Chris Pine could make an entirely new spin on the character of younger Kirk, and honestly I'd be fine with it as well. The only actor I've ever heard of is Winona Ryder, and honestly, does anyone really care that she's playing Amanda? I don't. They could have hired Fran Drescher, and as long as she didn't make that annoying laugh and took her role seriously, again, that's great.
What concerns me is the story. Perhaps we should start a new thread devoted to movie rumors, but until someone does, I'll just post my thoughts here.
Granted I know it's still way early, but the things I've heard recently about the plot, I don't really care for. And as far as the "disinformation" conspiracy-theorists go, I really don't find that plausible. I mean, c'mon, do you really think Abrams, Orci et. al would honor the fans of this show by basically lying to them by making up a bunch of bullshit, and then later essentially going, "ha-ha, fooled you suckers, that's not what the movie's about!" If you like being intentionally lied to, super. I don't.
I was under the impression that the Nimoy scenes were just supposed to be a framing story for the real story of the 23rd century ST crew. Something similar to "The Green Mile," where elderly Tom Hanks-character is telling a story to someone else about events that happened to him years ago. Now it seems that there's...(SPOILERS AHEAD) $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ ...time travel involved, via the Guardian of Forever being used by 25th century Romulans to go back in time & kill Kirk for whatever stupid implausible reason, and Nimoy-Spock goes after them, meets up with Quinto-Spock, and either sets the timeline right or makes a new one. Potential space battles between 25th century Romulan ships and the Enterprise-F aside, I really do not like this plot at all.
Thoughts?
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
25th Century now? The plot sounds ok to me, since any Trek movie sounds crap if you boil it down to a couple of sentences, especially the time travel ones. As for why Romulans would be going back to kill Kirk, well, did they ever need en excuse for being sneaky bastards? Aside from that, it could be some faction opposed to the new Romulan Federation peace treaty that comes in the wake of "Nemesis" and decide the best way to get the Empire back on top of things is to eliminate a key figure in Starfleet history, the very man who repelled the first Romulan incursion into Federation territory. Of course it's all speculation, the Romulans could have been victim of a time travel accident for all we know.
As for the so-called "conspiracy theory", there's a difference between leaking misinformation to protect plot details and outright bullshiting. Whether you believe it will happen or not, the fact is it DOES happen and will continue to do so so long as sneaky buggers keep taking sly photos outside the stage and so long as certain people with access to the script, or part thereof (which can include hundreds of people as soon as shooting starts) anonymously posts it on the internet. This is the same guy who's behind Lost, so he's well practised at keeping plot twists secret for as log as humanly possible. Actually, case in point I think I saw an article at commingsoon.net where Michael Bay said he'll be doing precisely that, leak loads of false info and even fake scripts to protect his next movie. I'm not saying this is the case here, just that it's possible and unless it comes from an official press release it should be treated as rumour.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Well I never thought my post would warrant such responses, but as said before, these are just rumors. The person who wrote City on the Edge of Forever is also miffed about these rumors as he feels that he has the rights to characters who appeared in the episode, like the Guardian of Forever.
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
If time traveling Romulans really wanted to screw up the Federation, they could always, say, go back to April 4th 2063, the day before first contact...
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
"The person who wrote City on the Edge of Forever"
Man, Harlan Ellison is probably on his way to your house right now to yell at you through the windows.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
(Also, look at this.)
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Well, I am one person who doesn't think the reboot or prequel movie concept is the best thing to come along.
I'll go along with it and watch the movie because I have to. But I wasn't happy with it.
And I have my doubts it's going to bring back all the fans from TOS/TNG. But we'll see.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
I still see no evidence that this is any more of a reboot than Enterprise was. While I still disbelieve the rumors about the plot details, one thing that does seem clear is that this film is following from pre-existing datapoints. Someone was saying on the TrekBBS that the very fact that the producers know who Christopher Pike is and CARE is indicative of that, and I agree.
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
As I recall, Piller loved Nimoy (and vice versa) because Nimoy got that Trek at its best was a show about great ideas, explored and dramatized on film.
Nimoy has been quoted as saying something to the effect that he's only involved in this because Abrams has captured the essence of Trek, or words to that effect.
While a Green Mile / Saving Private Ryan-esque flashback thingy would be poignant, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and trust that Nimoy still gets it, and isn't yanking our chain about whether the script is good just because he's trying to finance more pics of Rubenesque women.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
I just hope the Romulans are used well this time as a good adversary. Nemesis was partly billed as being about Romulans, but it wasn't really. I've been itching for a good Romulan movie for a *long* time.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Me too. Of all the "major" alien races, the Romulans have been short-changed the most.
I didn't like the prequel idea for Enterprise, either. Yes, the final season did work out well (when compared with the other three) but I wasn't sold on that idea going into it either.
Reboot is the wrong word. Still, there's so much potential to contradict established cannon when doing a prequel, especially when we've seen the results of all the previous Treks.
Of course, they can screw up cannon without doing prequels.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: "The person who wrote City on the Edge of Forever"
Man, Harlan Ellison is probably on his way to your house right now to yell at you through the windows.
Ah, he's just one of those types with a perpetual chip on his shoulder. I'm sure he wouldn't bother with a nobody like me. Besides, if you read the statement he made in the article, he's probably in front of Orci's house yelling at him through his windows.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
OK, so, yeah, these rumours could turn out to be bogus, after all they couldn't possibly turn out to be planning to film something so clich�d, could they. . ? Ohh, wow! Instant flashback to 1998 and 2002!
And, yes, as a consequence, by all means let us not even waste our valuable time debating them. There are far more pressing matters that require our attention. How do we all think Star Trek: Enterprise's seventh season is shaping up? Pardon? They did?! Two years ago?! Oh.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
If your post is directed toward me, I never said that we shouldn't debate the rumors. In fact, I asked for people's thoughts about the newest rumors at the end of my post. I just said that I didn't like what I was hearing.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
*eyes dart between Dukhat and Lee* I brought cupcakes...cupcakes, anyone!? (I tried to say c o o k i e s but the BB software said html c o o k i e tags weren't allowed...now that's strange...)
Anyway, directed at HerbShrump, at least if you contradict canon with a movie set *after* the rest of Trek you can rationalize it as new discoveries I would really love a prequel movie or series that rigorously adhered to canon and just fleshed out the past we've heard so much about...but my hopes are not up for this to be like that.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
The odd thing is that for a while I was all for a "Captain Sulu" story. That'd be a prequel of sorts.
Life is full of contradictions...
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by HerbShrump: The odd thing is that for a while I was all for a "Captain Sulu" story. That'd be a prequel of sorts.
Life is full of contradictions...
Would that have been a mid-quel? I would have liked to have seen a Sulu/Excelsior show.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
It's strange, for a long time my only recent sighting of Takei had been in a cameo on Scrubs, in which he looked distinctly past it. But he's looking much more capable in his role in Heroes. I guess it'd still be possible, provided he had a young hunky Riker-ish XO to do all the action stuff. But let's be realistic, there remain plenty of practical reasons why it'll never happen, and one ultimately realistic one: they will never, ever do it. End of story, sad though that truth may be.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
He's hardly having to carry those episodes of Heroes, though. (In which he is, to be sure, pretty good.)
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
I think it helps that he's not speaking English in those scenes, since overacting in Japanese is, most of the time, like getting wet while swimming. All he really does is act stern and on the verge of a stroke, or as if he has a stick up...actually, I don't think I want to go there.
Not that I'm dissing the guy, mind. I've just always felt that Nichelle Nichols is somewhat more underrated than she deserves compared to the other "co-stars". Walter Koenig doesn't count as he's proven his acting chops as Bester.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Yeah, he actually sticks in my mind now *more* as Bester than as Chekov.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
That's because Bester is a character, Chekov is an overpaid extra with a funny accent. Seriously, we know more about most guest stars than we do about Chekov.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Although it potentially represents the most high-profile thing he's done since Chariots of Fire, I find it hard to think of Ben Cross' casting as Sarek as anything else but yet another milestone on the downward spiral his career has taken ever since that 1981 triumph.
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
Actually I am very exited about the prospect of the new Trek movie - considering that after the cancellation of ENT it didn't seem like there would be any future for Trek.
And as long as all the debated story points are just rumors as of today, I wouldn't really get all worked up about it.
Let's wait and see what comes along in the form of CONFIRMED plot details...
Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
Well... I won't be able to say what's on set when I go there December.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
But who is he playing, I wonder?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Yes, I wonder.
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
He's in the trailer in the shot of everyone boarding shuttles. You can see him on the left wearing a hat iirc. And everyone's looking toward him.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Yah, he appears to be some kind of (possibly) enlisted personnel shouting out boarding assignments to all the cadets getting on the shuttles.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
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I would really love a prequel movie or series that rigorously adhered to canon and just fleshed out the past we've heard so much about...but my hopes are not up for this to be like that.
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I would have liked to have seen a Sulu/Excelsior show.