It might just be that im a bit skeptical, but remember when the Klingons transported in the first time they set coordinates for the exact center of town....... well the second tim ethey beamed in, if they didnt scan, they would have been at the old center of town....
If that isn't enough for you then forget that and think about this, after Archer saw that they beammed into the center of town couldnt he put a torpedo right in th middle of town and as soon as they began to materialize detonate it ? wouldnt that have been eaiser to configure than moving the whole god damn town?
Posted by Warbadden Hawkins (Member # 905) on :
i wasnt too specific on my second idea, i meant for archer to have put the torpedo on the second klingon beam down, because he didnt have advanced notice about the first.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Your argument is heinously flawed. For Archer to detonate a torpedo when the Klingons beamed down would mean that the Klingons would be killed. And as everyone knows, nobody is ever actively killed in Enterprise. Yes, the Klingons will live to return another day, once the NX-01 is long gone, and obliterate that deuterium mining colony, and then go on to pester some other colony.
Posted by Ryan McReynolds (Member # 28) on :
While the above was at least quasi-facetious, it would seem rather unlike Starfleet to vaporize the bad guys outright.
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
^Especially since this is the true "armed scientist" period of Starfleet. once TOS kicks in, them Starfleet officers aren't so spineless.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
Although, I did find it amusingly ironic when T'Pol herself said something along the lines of "...the only way to prevent the Klingons from raiding the colony permanently, will be to kill them." Then later on, she pointed out that these particular Klingons probably don't even answer to the high council, and thus are renegades.
In a way, this implies that the logical Vulcan solution, if they had thought it through would be to kill them, since it would have no diplomatic repercussions. As we know from the second Andorian episode, Vulcans of these period don't shy away from brute force to solve problems Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
Or Vulcan Kung-fu for that matter...
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
I always figured Vulcans would be into martial arts and all that zen stuff.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
...Something that Tuvok, a Vulcan security officer, made no mention of in seven years. He musta been going through pon farr during that course in sigh school.
Mark
Posted by Hunter (Member # 611) on :
Well Sarek was an adept at Tal Shaya(sp?) so vulcan martial arts arent't new.
Oh, and mark Sigh School? I thought that Vulcans were more in to arching their eyebrows than sighing
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
That's NOT a spelling mistake. Tuvok sighed in almost every scene he shared with Neelix. It's not just an art; it's a science.
Mark
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
For it is easier to sigh than to arch an eyebrow..
This is the first statment said by the sigh instructor....
Posted by Hunter (Member # 611) on :
So? An arched eyebrow can do everything from 'Hmmm,intresting' to 'You really are full of it, aren't you?' what can a sigh do huh?
And thank you, Mark I shall now have to watch every scene with Tuvok and Neelix to see if your right .
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
The quit annoying me our I'll go off you your ass Neelix thing.... Very useful when dealing with Neelix...
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I noticed this as soon as I saw it, but completely forgot to make note of it.
Trip's kind gift of a complete set of schematics for the NX-01 was very thoughtful (and something that some of us here would kill for! ), but not very smart at all. Why, just a few weeks ago we encountered Romulans, an unknown enemy. And we also know that there are Klingons in the region. And who knows how many other hostile races there could be?
I predict that the next time the Enterprise gets in a firefight, the enemy ship will immediately target the ship's weakest spots, and Archer and Tucker will be pondering how the aliens managed to get their hands on a complete set of schematics while the ship explodes around them...
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
I don't remember the word complete mentioned on screen.....
Posted by The Captain Who Will Not Be Named (Member # 709) on :
yeah, that would be dumb.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Well, having a drawing of the ship is hardly something that would require a full PADD to give away... Trip could've printed something out to give to the kid instead. We've already seen them using paper in a few other situations.
Heck, for that matter, what kind of problems could be created just by leaving the PADD itself behind? There's an upcoming episode called "The Communicator" that deals with that very issue -- someone leaving their walkie-talkie behind. What's the difference with a palmtop computer with an Apple G47 processor?
Posted by The Captain Who Will Not Be Named (Member # 709) on :
hmph.. so he included some Time magazine downloads and .JPGs of some hull beauty shots. kinda like those 'image disks' they used to sell at conventions where, before the days of search engines when enterprising fanboys would scan or DL as many pics they could find, compile them onto 3.5 disks and sell them to non-internet-knowledgable people. i recall buying one, around 1994, with a bunch of old .GIFs on them.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
The point, though, is the definition of "schematics." Around here, it's usually in reference to the orthographic views of starships. However, in the engineering sense the term applies to the inner workings of a machine. That's what I figured would be more logical (sort of) given the situation.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Actually, if you think about it, Trip's giving the kid those schematics and that PADD was brilliant (for Enterprise's premise, that is). I mean, what better resons to eventually adopt a policy of non-interference than to have this crew constantly giving away their technology and have it come back to bite them in the ass later?
Of course, we all know that that wasn't what the writers were thinking, but hey, we're smarter than they are.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
of course, if the miners deal with the Klingons, then there's the possibility their tech is more advanced then the Terran's anyway.. i mean, they do probably see a lot of warp capable ships drop by in their jobs as deuterium refiners.. chances are a lot of them are as advanced or more than the NX-01
BTW, wearing rank pins on your collar is sooooo TNG.. Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
As long as you're resurrecting an old thread...
quote:Originally posted by The Captain Who Will Not Be Named: hmph.. so he included some Time magazine downloads and .JPGs of some hull beauty shots. kinda like those 'image disks' they used to sell at conventions where, before the days of search engines when enterprising fanboys would scan or DL as many pics they could find, compile them onto 3.5 disks and sell them to non-internet-knowledgable people. i recall buying one, around 1994, with a bunch of old .GIFs on them.
Didn't have any pics of the Trinculo on it, by any chance, did it?
-MMoM Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
yeeeeah... well. i just downloaded a lot of eps so i figured it was old enough to not require a new thread..
never seen the trinculo tho.. maybe it exists only in our minds, hearts and dreams
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