So I guess I was alone in feeling that stretching out that floating city thing into a whole multi-part saga would have marked the proverbial shark-related aerial exercise for Star Trek nostalgia? I mean, what next, a season finale revolving around the whimsical literary adventures of alien librarian Mr. Atoz? I'd much rather see, say, an arc about the Tandarans, or the Tholians, or maybe what the Suliban are up to now that their far future sugardaddy has apparently abandoned them.
(That is, since Archer and crew haven't forgotten anything they learned during the first three seasons, I don't see why people who knew more about what was going on would either, so even though the TCW might be over in this particular era, its former proxy combatants would surely use the knowledge they gained in pursuit of their own ends.)
((Mind you, all this comes from someone who hasn't seen "Storm Front," so it is possible that things there shook out in such a way as to negate any of my poor notions.))
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
[And yes, I know: "You mean like the Drakh?!?" Sure. Only, you know, better. [[Bam!]]]
But I kid, because, among other things, so little of the Drakh appeared that we don't really know if they were lame Eeevil Villains as they sort of appeared to be, or not. But, hey, tangent.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
How can you make a race of goons that use leftover technology from the big baddies you already beat unique or intresting?
You cant.
At least the Suliban had a cool motivation: their genetically stagnant race got cool abilities and good technology in exchange for some relativly minor bitchwork.
Hmmm.. mabye the Suliban's genetic enhancments need to be renewed or they croak.
It would explain why they sren't around in TOS or later.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
So you don't find anything happening today in, say, Africa, or the Middle East, or the Balkans, interesting?
What I'm getting at is, when large powers go away they leave complications behind. Often bad for people, but good for TV dramas.
Posted by missmanners (Member # 1523) on :
I would think (and I'm probably wrong) that from a practical standpoint developing anthing around alien species and cultures would be risky. Unless it's about one of the better known species/cultures. I mean one that has some recurring badguys or goodguys that casual viewers as well as hardcore geeks (if thats a bad word around here, tell me now, I use it often) are going to recognize and either love or hate.
Then there's the whole language thing which I find REALLY annoying. But thats probably had it's bones picked clean elsewhere.
mm
Posted by Footrama Goo (Member # 968) on :
I'm a bit let down. The hype of this topics title is not fulfilled by the content of the article. Shame on you Andrew!
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:How can you make a race of goons that use leftover technology from the big baddies you already beat unique or interesting?
Minor point, but the Shadows weren't "beaten". They handed in their notice as guardians of chaos and just left for the rim (like Florida, but for trans-sentient beings and big balls of light). They younger races never had the slightest chance of �beating" them or the Vorlons, never mind both at the same time. The threat with the Drakh was of a child with it's dad's gun; all the more deadly because of their lack of maturity and responsibility with the big shiny toys. Sure the Shadows didn't balk at mass genocide, but they were never going to wipe out everything and take over the galaxy. The Drakh on the other hand (what little we saw of them) seamed to be out to become what they saw the Shadows as. That is big, powerful and scary. I imagine the subtleties of millenia long philosophical debates about order vs. chaos was somewhat lost on them.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Yet...the Drakh sucked pretty hard. They had no menace at all to them.
Hmmm...mabye if they were not just guys in makeup I'd feel diffrently- after all, part of what made the Shadows intresting (untill that lame-ass war finalle anyway) was that they were non-humanoid.
Heck, they'd have been better off making the Thirdspace aliens a major threat instead.
At least they looked cool.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Footrama Goo: I'm a bit let down. The hype of this topics title is not fulfilled by the content of the article. Shame on you Andrew!
Blame that on the Paramount/Viacom/UPN/CBS/whoever-the-fuck-runs-Trek-now execs
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
BTW, htf did this turn into a Drakh discussion!?!
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
This is Flare. I'm amazed this has not turned into a discussion of sex or politocs.
Its still the first page, so we're not too far behind schedule.
Posted by Manticore (Member # 1227) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Yet...the Drakh sucked pretty hard. They had no menace at all to them.
Hmmm...mabye if they were not just guys in makeup I'd feel diffrently- after all, part of what made the Shadows intresting (untill that lame-ass war finalle anyway) was that they were non-humanoid.
Heck, they'd have been better off making the Thirdspace aliens a major threat instead.
At least they looked cool.
Well, if they'd kept the Drakh with that neat after-image effect and the skull-like stuff, I think they'd have been more menacing. The Drazi-like Reptilians were just blah.
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