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Harry
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Alien masks

Apparantly, these guys are in the second episode and are called the Axanar. If that's true, than it's great news. Because while they are new aliens, they have a name that's canon and familiar (-> the Battle of Axanar, with Garh of Izar from TOS).
It could be coincidental, or a genuine attempt for continuity! Positive as I am about ENT, I dare to say the last.

This, together with word of the Andorians and the Tellarites appearing, is very good news!

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TSN
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Um... Yes. This was already discussed back when these pictures came out in TVGuide.
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The Red Admiral
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I know about the Andorians, but please, tell me more about the Tellerites appearing !!

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Sol System
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They aren't. Westmore (Westmore?) said that if the Tellarites were to appear, he'd have to totally redesign them. So there's as much a chance for Tellarites as there is for anyone else, I guess, but they won't be appearing in any of the episodes filmed so far, at least.
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Harry
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The Tellies appearing on the show was wishful thinking on my part based on Westmore's comments.

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Dukhat
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I looked up the entry for Axanar in the Encyclopedia & found something interesting. Apparently, the Battle of Axanar was a crucial turning point for the Federation, as Kirk states that because of the battle, he and Spock were able to work together as brothers. One could take this literally to mean a turning point in their personal relationship, or it could mean something bigger (i.e. Humans & Vulcans being able to work together as brothers).

How does this apply to Enterprise? Well, if there's an amicable but strained relationship between humans & Vulcans in Enterprise, it could mean that that relationship will continue to be strained until the 23rd century.

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OnToMars
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But you KNOW that Archer/T'Pol will get very chummy after 7 years. If what the encylopedia is correct, (which it won't be eventually), then Kirk/Spock could be represntative of cultural feelings of both species and Archer/T'Pol would be unothordox in their time.

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Well, I don't see any problem with Westmore adding his touch to the Tellarites. He has with most of the other races. I have had a feeling that Lt. Nara? That was Lt Kwan's superior officer in the Nacelle control room was a female Tellarite! Have a look at her - she has that whole 'hoighty' feel and the porcine nose!

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Harry
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Andrew... you might be right. You could make a Tellarite out of it. I wonder if that was intentionally.

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Is "hoighty" a word?

And I don't think she was intended to be a Tellarite. If so, why would Westmore say they would need redesigning? He would have already done it.


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Wes
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I'm betting the Battle of Axanar takes place durring the Enterprise timeline, and Kirk is refering to it as a turning point for Vulcans and Humans, not just him and Spock.
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We don't even know if there is such a thing as a Battle of Axanar. Just that Kirk was on a peace mission there. Or have I missed something amazing?
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Harry
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Kirk mentioned Garth of Izar won a major victory at planet Axanar. Afterwards, Kirk attends a peace mission, "as a newly fledged cadet", indicating this whole Axanar business takes place in the 2250s. Maybe after the battle the Axanar joined the Federation?

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this could get intresting
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Or maybe Axanar already was in the Federation, and the war prevented it from seceding, thereby stopping other disgruntled members like Vulcan from seceding as well? Then Kirk and Spock "could work as brothers" as the result of the Axanar incident.

It could also be that Vulcans simply disagreed with how to handle some unspecified problem with the Axanari, and the way Garth eventually handled it proved satisfactory to the Vulcans so they decided to forge closer ties with humans. But would the Vulcans really approve of a glorious battle? Or was it the "peace mission" that impressed them?

In any case, I don't expect to see any kind of closure in ENT's handling of the Axanari. Whatever is "wrong" with them should remain that way till the 2250s.

Timo Saloniemi


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