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Posted by MIB on :

Why do I get the feeling that once we all get a taste of 'Enterprise' we will all be begging Paramount to bring back Voyager for an 8th season......

I don't know why I posted this, I just wanted to.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

I know that when I got a taste of "Voy", I was begging them to bring back TNG.

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Hmmm... it took me a fairly substantial taste of Voyager to get a similar feeling... about halfway through the first season...

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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :

Some people felt that in the first season of TNG to bring back TOS...

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

People who doomsay a show before it airs really, really, REALLY need to be struck on the head by a large mallet of some sort.

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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :

I'm immune because I never said that personally.

Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

I'm not bagging the actual show as such, more the fact that people haven't been happy with Voyager... so what is going to change in the space of less than a few months between Voyager's quality and Enterprise's quality? The Producers are the same, most of the crew is the same (no Rick Sternbach) and carbon copy actors/characters... oh throw in a Sci-fi "known" and kick out a Senior illustrator... THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING!

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

I'm taking the hit with the mallet, and I'll remind you some time in the first season...

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

No, never the first season. No show has it's "legs" in the first season. How about midway through the second, barring cast changes?

Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :

At which point (which episode #) did TNG really begin to "get its legs"? Opinion? This would give us a measuring stick by which to expect Enterprise to come of Age.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Actually, looking back, "The Big Goodbye" was probably the turning point, just in that it was the first ep that doesn't scream "TOS!" in my mind.

And DS9, I think, got its legs early, with "Progress", "Duet", and "In The Hands of the Prophets" all in the later end of the first season.

By contrast, "Voyager" still hasn't gotten its legs.

"Highlander: The Series" did some stumbling through its first two seasons, but hit a super-high for their third, fourth, and fifth seasons before crashing (hard) for the sixth season.

[This message has been edited by JeffKardde (edited May 23, 2001).]

Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

I think Trek is incredibly lucky in that they have the time for a show to improve. Most new shows, like Harsh Realm, will go off the air in three or 4 weeks if they can't pull in enough viewers, regardless if this is because of lack of advertizing, a difficult concept, poor time slot, or the fact that the show is simply is ill-conceived or poorly written. Any Trek show, even an unpopular one like Voyager, has a dedicated base audience and still makes a profit, I guess, so is allowed to continue and, hopefully, improve without worrying about cancellation. Most shows never get that chance.

As for Enterprise: We shall see in August. I will watch and hope for the best.

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Posted by Soontir_Fel on :

I think TNG got goin' around 'Conspiracy,' It made me think that this would turn out to be pretty good. Then there was 'Q Who.' Gotta love the Borg at that time.

DS9? Easy, the tripe episode serving at the start of season 2.

VOY? Started with legs but had them chopped off after the pilot. Here and there it got crutches but never any new legs.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Erm... You do realize that "tripe" is a bad thing, right?

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Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

Maybe he likes organ meat. Mmm, thymus gland, kidney, brains...

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Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :

He meant triple as I'm sure you're aware. *thpppt*

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Actually, no, I assumed he meant "tripe", since it makes sense (syntactically, anyway). "Triple" never even occured to me (though it does make sense, now that you say it).

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Shut up Data!

Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :

I agree with Bernd, but I also know that it will be at least another one and a half years before Enterprise will hit the screens here in Germany. By then, of course, all of us here will know how the first season has turned out thanks to the wonders of the web.
But get ready with the mallet...I'm a hypocrit too.

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Posted by Tech Sergeant Chen (Member # 350) on :

I take issue with the statement that no show finds its legs until midway through the second season. Look at the archetype for the franchise.

In the first season alone, there were very good episodes like The Naked Time, The Menagerie, Balance of Terror, Shore Leave, Space Seed, This Side of Paradise, Devil in the Dark, Errand of Mercy and City on the Edge of Forever. Even today, they feel like TOS at its classic best. In the second season, just about every second episode was good. Meanwhile, I cringe at every single first season TNG ep, and most of the second and many of the third. TOS was magic, no doubt about it.

[ May 27, 2001: Message edited by: Tech Sergeant Chen ]

Posted by JeffKardde (Member # 411) on :

DS9 had some GREAT first season episodes ... "Progress", "The Storyteller", "Duet", and "In The Hands of the Prophets."

Posted by Wes1701E (Member # 212) on :

I think alot of people are just afraid of change.

Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :

For me TNG first made me sit up and take notice when the 2nd season show 'Time Squared' aired. And it just got better and better from there, with minor exceptions of course. I agree with Tech sergeant Chen in that many 1st season eps were pretty cringe worthy. But you've gotta shrug and say the likes of '11001001', 'We'll Always Have Paris', and 'Conspiracy' weren't half bad.

I liked DS9 immediately, and perhaps one its best and strongest episodes 'Duet' is from the first season. Voyager I also loved initially, then it went rapidly downhill. By season three I getting very disappointed with it. But then Seven appeared and it livened up a lot after that - in more ways than one.

In an ideal world, I would love it if they had two Trek shows running simulataneously like the good ole days. Run the 22nd century 'Enterprise', and continue the current era 24th century adventures in a brand new series. New ship, new crew etc etc.

Because the worse thing for me about 'Enterprise' (and you never know it might be ok in the end), is that I'm really gunna miss the 24th century. I just can't get over that.

Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :

Hell, one of the most chilling Trek moments ever for me was in "Conspiracy", as they're searching the debris field to find out what ship it was. The music was perfect. The lack of dialogue as we saw the itty bitty chunks of twisted metal float past on the viewscreen, accompanied by the sound of the scanners...

--Jonah