Being a forum newbie i thought i'd start as always on the wrong foot......
Does anyone else out there think that Enterprise really isn't all it's cracked up to be?
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
Wrong foot all right.
Lessee now, where should this go? Officer's Lounge, or Enterprise?
eenie meenie minie mo....
Enterprise it is.
Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :
I guess that depends on what people expect from the show. I expected it to be decent and so far it's just that. I enjoy watching it for the most part when I completely ignore any mention and act involving the neverending time travel.
Posted by E. Keeler (Member # 1272) on :
ok then we'll carry on here, but the question remains, what have they done to a series that should have been so much more....?
Every week (when i bothered wathing every week that is..) I was left with an overwhelming feeling of dissatisfaction at the over acting, too modern stylisation of the ship and the pitiful attempts to gain more viewers by making the cast more 'sexy'.
C'mon Trip running round the ship in his underpants saving the crew from the Ferengi...
...T'Pol rubbing decontamination jelly overself revealing rather a lot of breast ...
I'm only human I can see the appeal but really I expected more.
Posted by E. Keeler (Member # 1272) on :
I'm not saying I hate the show- but I was somewhat dissapointed that it turned out to be nothing more light entertainment on a sunday afternoon, it sits there side by side with scrapheap challenge it'll do to watch if theres nothing better on.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
It sounds like you've missed this whole season, wich has had many moments on par with the very best of Trek.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
What's an "overself"?
Like any series, Enterprise has its good points and bad points. TNG and DS9 had the bad points too. I enjoy it for the most part, but take it for what it is. It's not going to change my conception of reality or leave me up three nights straight drooling over it's greatness, but it's got enough mystery in it to keep me watching. It's got good FX and good production design. It is what it is. It also happens to have something that only DS9 has had in the past... a continuing plot arc.
Plus, there's always the chance that T'Pol will rub jelly overself again.
Posted by E. Keeler (Member # 1272) on :
Bah, I'm not convinced, sorry guys, I guess more of Trip running round in his starfleet standard issue underpants wouldn't be all that bad.....
Posted by Apostle (Member # 1267) on :
I know. Flat panel monitors and digital controls? We don't even have those NOW!
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
After watching Ent for a while I couldn't put myself in to the 'Elseworld' frame of mind to continue abusing my TV that way.
The concept is a good idea, the execution of the concept seems to leave a lot to desire....
In the series finale I can see Archer waking up as a kid having had one heck of a dream.... or leaping....
Posted by Species 1162 (Member # 1162) on :
NooB! Let the smitting begin!
I rather enjoy Enterprise. I'm sure if I had millions of dollars in cash, access to state of the art production equipment and top-notch talent I could do better but I don't.
So I sit back and enjoy. And then I rip up dubmarse NooBs who log on with nothing better to do than complain.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
You tell em', Newbie. Posted by TheWoozle (Member # 929) on :
At least, Archer hasn't gone to a planet that looks exactly like Earth and fought in Roman Gladiatorial Combat.
Roddenberry himself said "The Enterprise is a vehicle in a very real sense. Not in the sense that it's an actual starship flying in space, but that it's a vehicle for telling stories".
While the Trek story arcs (like the Xindi) are nice, not all stories fit well and I like to think of them as anthology stories that are set in the same setting, but don't relate to each other.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
So... this is just an "Enterprise Sucks" thread, then, huh?
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
quote:Originally posted by Species 1162: I rather enjoy Enterprise. I'm sure if I had millions of dollars in cash, access to state of the art production equipment and top-notch talent I could do better but I don't.
But, you do have access to millions of dollars...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Plus, you have the ability to make giant styrofoam rocks for the Gorn to throw....
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Species 1162: "I'm sure if I had millions of dollars in cash, access to state of the art production equipment and top-notch talent I could do better but I don't.
Brag, brag, brag...
Posted by E. Keeler (Member # 1272) on :
The point is you dont need hundreds of thousands of dollars to make a show that is much better than enterprise-it takes smarts, something the designers of Enterprise seem to be lacking.
Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :
I wouldn't mind a couple worm-infestation stories with exploding commanders.
Posted by E. Keeler (Member # 1272) on :
Hmmm so many commanders so little time.....
Posted by E. Keeler (Member # 1272) on :
......if there was a worm infestation plot it would have to reinstate a scene similar to the one I've seen designs for that would have been in TNG episode but were deemed to 'gorey' for trek.
Posted by E. Keeler (Member # 1272) on :
'conspiracy' that was the episode I was thinking of-knew I'd get there in the end... Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by E. Keeler: The point is you dont need hundreds of thousands of dollars to make a show that is much better than enterprise-it takes smarts, something the designers of Enterprise seem to be lacking.
That's sure talking a lot of crap, as you've said you havent seen any of the current episodes. Go judge TNG based on it's first two seasons and you'd have a pretty dim view of them as well. Posted by E. Keeler (Member # 1272) on :
I love the first couple of seasons of TNG, looking back i do find a beardless and fairly slim Riker a bit odd though.....
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Ug. I cant stand most of TNG's first two seasons.
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
I don't know what to think about Enterprise. I hear some people saying it's nice to watch, yet everytime I tune into an episode, it's so stupid I can't stand watching more than ten minutes before getting too annoyed. Perhaps I have had the bad luck to only witness the most crappy moments, but up to now there was not one minute of the show that I could enjoy even a little. Hell, even Voyager didn't annoy me that much - and that is coming from someone who really hated most of the Voyager episodes.
I always TRY to be open-minded about new stuff. But I have given Enterprise so many chances - and have been disappointed by it at every turn...
Posted by E. Keeler (Member # 1272) on :
at least the make-up department had fun in Voyager- they could play endlessly with their latex to make new looking aliens-mostly humanoid bipedals of course.....
Posted by E. Keeler (Member # 1272) on :
I've just remembered one thing I do like about Enterprise (apart from Trips underpants, ahem.. )
Andorians-you got to see them a few times in TOS but never so much after that. They always seemed to be one of those 'stock aliens' you would see in the background of space ports and stuff, it was nice to see some Andorians getting a story line for an episode or two.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
THey've been back this season as well.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Bipeds. Bipedal locomotion.
Posted by Brown_supahero (Member # 83) on :
I heard there were hoes on the latest episode of Enterprise, and a character gets to tap some ass.
I might start watching it now.
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
What the fuck?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Will there be Da'bo as well? John DiMaggio might just do some guest-starring...
Posted by Ace (Member # 389) on :
Is it "ho" or "hoe?"
I don't want to make a silly mistake if I ever have to use one of the words.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
And don't fool yourself... Riker tapped plenty during TNG's run.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Whereas Kirk wore white to his wedding?
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
"Grab a hoe! Not me, THIS hoe!" -Wayne Brady, improvising a Destiny's Child song about gardening
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Just give him the prize.....
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"......if there was a worm infestation plot it would have to reinstate a scene similar to the one I've seen designs for that would have been in TNG episode but were deemed to 'gorey' for trek."
There was a "gory" scene at the end of "Conspiracy". As I understand it, British TV simply refused to show it.
Unless you're talking about something else.
Posted by Irishman (Member # 1188) on :
Only a complete dork would complain about a Trek show displaying a little breast or foreplay. Come on people, we are talking about adults playing adult games here. How do you think YOU came to be? They won't all be test-tube babies in the future.
And THAT wasn't Roddenberry's vision either.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: There was a "gory" scene at the end of "Conspiracy". As I understand it, British TV simply refused to show it.
The BBC cut it completely. You saw Remmeck's (sp?) next swell, then Riker and Picard fired, and a squelching noise was heard.
Sky showed Remmeck's skin dissolving, but cut away before it burst (I think it bursts. I'm not sure).
However, this was before the apparent relaxation in censorship laws in about 2000. I haven't seen it on TV since then (it's been on, I just haven't seen it) so there's a chance they're put the scenes back in.
I do remember some artwork in something, possibly the Art of Star Trek, which showed that it was going to be ever gorier than shown though.
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
It was. The RC2 DVDs of TNG are uncut. But even the UK Videotape I bought a couple of years back has the whole scene uncut. That's the newer TNG video edition (with 4 eps per tape and different packaging to the first edition) mind you.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Man. X-Files must've played merry hell with the BBC until 2000, then?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
No, because it was shown after 9.
Before 9 o'clock, our censorship laws are much stricter than the US's. After 9, they are much, much looser. Hence, the X-Files was shown normally.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
And hence Channel Five's schedules: pre-9PM WWII docuentaries, post-9PM porn.
Posted by Ace (Member # 389) on :
Well, that's what they fought for, I guess...freedom, that is...
...to watch porn.
Without Nazis.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Now if we could only get sci-fi without Nazis, we'd really be able to declare victory.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Holy fuck: it's a double post!
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Batman
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
"Holy fuck, Batman! With that kind of power, he could destroy the city!!!"
Can't put my finger on it but somehow it sounds wrong.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
This too...
"Holy fuck, Batman! That's why you make me wear spandex and call be 'Boy Wonder'?"
Nothing? Eh, well....
Hey! Fireprise... Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Posted by E. Keeler (Member # 1272) on :
teeheehee I just got the DVD of the Adam West/Burt Ward Batman movie for my birthday!
"pass me the shark repellent bat-spray...."
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
You just dig guys in costume with rubber gloves, dont you? Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Holy original insult, Batman!
Posted by Manticore (Member # 1227) on :
I remember that show. I used to think that it was all that!...
...when I was four.
Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
Hey that reunion movie that was on CBS a while back... not that's funny. I don't even know half the jokes and injokes about the series but it was still funny--- kinda like Futurama the first time you see it, no matter which episode it is, you fall out of your chair at everything Bender says.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Batman was a well made show, really. Kids could watch it completely seriously. Adults could watch it and enjoy it as the piss-take it was. It takes a certain kind of actor to deliver lines like "Some days it's just impossible to get rid of a bomb".
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Sounds like a line that could be in a Die Hard movie.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
A Die Hard movie wouldn't have Bruce Willis running around with a bomb, trying to avoid babies in buggies, marching bands, a group of nuns...
Actually, it might.
Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
Oddly enough I'm getting visions of Speed 3 in my head right now... I think you people need to up your medications, your psycosices are starting to affect me.
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
Methinks this needs to move to the right forum. *whoosh*
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