4x1: "Storm Front, Part I" 4x2: "Storm Front, Part II"
Conclusion of Alien Nazi Vampire cliffhanger.
Big news is that this is apparantly the end of the Temporal Cold War arc. No more Silik, no more Daniels. Future Guy's identity will not be revealed. I'm a bit conflicted on that piece of info.
4x3: Unknown stand-alone episode
Not attached to any mini-arc, no details yet.
4x4-4x6: Eugenics Mini-Arc
Arik Soong (played by Brent Spiner) apparantly broke into Starfleet 20 years ago and revived some genetically-engineered embryos from the Eugenics Wars era. Now those grown-up Khan-wannabes are about to start a war with the Klingons.
I don't think this conflicts with anything, since Soong's kiddies were apparantly accounted for. Coto is also not dealing with exactly when the Eugenics Wars happened, which I think is wise. Klingons and Orions will both be seen in this arc.
Three-episode Vulcan mini-arc
A Vulcan "Martin Luther" who thinks he's the reincarnation of Surak causes a "civil war" on Vulcan. Will apparantly deal with why Enterprise-era Vulcans are different from Vulcans from later eras.
Don't know what to think on this one. Could be interesting, as long as the "Martin Luther" character isn't revealed to be completely out of his mind (Like the lead hologram from "Flesh and Blood").
Posted by Doctor Jonas (Member # 481) on :
It's disappointing to see how they will deal with the TCW arc. Possibly has something to do with the possibility of cancellation. Maybe if they get a fifth season they will be back; but meanwhile there are lots of stories to be told during this fourth season, if they feel it may be the last.
Would we get to see one of the best Trek seasons EVAR?
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Tying up the TCW in two episodes at the beginning of the season is saying, "We don't know how to go back to this and didn't know how we wanted to end it in the first place, so let's get rid of it and move on to other things."
The TCW was set up as the underlying arc of the show from the pilot episode on. To get rid of it now without ever revealing the identity of the bad guy seems half-assed to me. But as always, I'll wait and see how it's done before making a judgement.
Posted by japol (Member # 1149) on :
I have to say... I'm really very excited about this. It seems that the show may be finding its way.
Now I am really looking forward to the next season.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
quote:4x1: "Storm Front, Part I" 4x2: "Storm Front, Part II"
Conclusion of Alien Nazi Vampire cliffhanger.
Big news is that this is apparantly the end of the Temporal Cold War arc. No more Silik, no more Daniels. Future Guy's identity will not be revealed. I'm a bit conflicted on that piece of info.
Sounds like a quick end to a convoluted arc. Perhap's it's for the best to kill of this fuzzy arc. No-one seems to have had a clue about where they were trying to go anyway. This also opens up the possibility that FutureGuy is in fact Hermann G�ring..
quote: 4x4-4x6: Eugenics Mini-Arc
Arik Soong (played by Brent Spiner) apparantly broke into Starfleet 20 years ago and revived some genetically-engineered embryos from the Eugenics Wars era. Now those grown-up Khan-wannabes are about to start a war with the Klingons.
I don't think this conflicts with anything, since Soong's kiddies were apparantly accounted for. Coto is also not dealing with exactly when the Eugenics Wars happened, which I think is wise. Klingons and Orions will both be seen in this arc.
This sounds like it could be good. I very definitely plays in on TOS, and I'm very much looking to forward to *finally* seeing some Orions. I wonder what they'll look like, since I seem to remember the green skinned females were only semi-sentient trade items, and not actually of the Orion species. TAS has some Orions, but they are probably way to cartoony to be tranferred to live action.
quote: Three-episode Vulcan mini-arc
A Vulcan "Martin Luther" who thinks he's the reincarnation of Surak causes a "civil war" on Vulcan. Will apparantly deal with why Enterprise-era Vulcans are different from Vulcans from later eras.
A Vulcan revolution? Coto is changing the Vulcans back to the Vulcans we know? Sounds like this man is trying to make this a repairing season. Killing of the TCW, getting the Vulcans back to normal, introducing the Orions. I like it already Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, I guess we'll finally have a sort-of explanation why the admiral in "Doctor Bashir, I Presume" thought the Eugenics Wars were 200 years earlier.
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
The third ep supposedly features a near-marriage for T'Pol, according to . . . uh . . . um . . . er . . . something-or-other I read that claimed to be reporting on something Blalock said.
Posted by Bond, James Bond (Member # 1127) on :
^^^ Jolene Blalock let the cat out of the bag during this week's fall press tour: 'T'Pol' may be getting married. In fact, TrekWeb has received the first information on the third episode of the season in which the big event might occur, entitled simply "Home."
In the episode, slated to begin production August 4th under the direction of Allan Kroeker (who is also directing the season premiere "Storm Front, Part 1", credits), T'Pol will face her mother 'T'Las', who along with another family has arranged a Vulcan marriage for the Enterprise science officer. Producers are reportedly looking for an actress in her 60s are are open to "stunt" casting for the role.
UPN president Dawn Ostroff said earlier this week that the network would like to land popular performers in ENTERPRISE guest roles this season; TNG's Brent Spiner is already onboard for a three-part stint, and Shatner talks is omnipresent.
T'Pol's husband-to-be goes by the name of 'Koss' and looks in his late 30s by human standards. Koss is reminiscient of 'Spock', tall and imposing. But T'Pol -- as you can probably imagine -- is unsure whether to go through with the betrothal. Both T'Las and Koss could appear in later episodes.
In addition, we'll also meet the newest NX-class member of the fleet in "Home." The commemoratively-named Starship Columbia is captained by 'Erika Hernandez', a sexy Latin former colleague of 'Archer's from Starfleet's command school.
Rick Berman stated this week that the third episode of the season would be a standalone before launching into the three-part storyline focusing on Spiner as 'Arik Soong', the great-great-grandfather of 'Noonien Soong' (Data's creator) who attempts to continue the work of geneticists with embryos left over from the Eugenics Wars (story).
STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE resumed production last week with the fourth season premiere "Storm Front, Part 1," the beginning of a multi-episode storyline that will find Archer stuck in a Nazi-dominated 1944 in which the World War II villains are being aided by an alien race called the 'Na'khul'.
The second part of "Storm Front" is slated to go before cameras next Monday, and TrekWeb has learned that the episode will involve more temporal craziness. As 'Vosk', the alien leader who seems to be leading their effort to help the Nazis occupy the East Coast of the United States, seeks to determine whether temporal agents are foiling their plan.
Vosk's new assistant 'Kraul' is charged with investigating prisoners' status as temporal agents and is satisfied that they aren't. Meanwhile, we also learn that Vosk maintains a temporal conduit in his compound, and Archer works with other resistance fighters to prevent the Na'Khul's interference with Earth's past.
"Storm Front, Part 2" will be directed by David Straiton from a script by Manny Coto. The episode will air October 15th.
Update: The Modesto Bee was also in attendance this week, and quotes Jolene Blalock ('T'Pol') as saying that season four will be the "best year." She also reportedly said, "We have Hitler in Time Square," possibly revealing a cameo by everyone's favorite genocidal maniac, war criminal, and all around bad guy. The first two episodes of the season, "Storm Front," deal with aliens assisting the Nazis in a takeover of the United States during World War II. Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Oh boy. It seems like Bernd's going to have a busy fourth season with all the Star-Trek-does-WW2 craziness.
So.. the Nazis in New York. That's a very significant change to the War, because Hitler had no plans whatsoever about America. His largest concerns were about Britain and the Soviet Union, and from what I understand, Nazi leaders had only a very vague (and wrong) idea of American power. Apparently, America just wasn't on the agenda at all. Germany declared war on the US after Japan attacked at Pearl Harbor, but that seems to be mostly attributed to secret deals with Japan and delusional plans by Hitler.
So ... did the aliens help Hitler win in the Soviet Union and in Brittain? And did they somehow manage to change Hitler's mind about America? Hitler wasn't very rational, and certainly didn't like anyone disagreeing with him, so I wonder how those aliens manage to change his mind...
Perhaps this all takes place well after the (failed?) invasion at Normandy, but at that time Hitler was a very disturbed man with possible Parkinson's disease.
Posted by Bond, James Bond (Member # 1127) on :
That's the impression that I get. The aliens helped Hitler win the war in Europe and then convinced him to carry the fight to the America's afterwards.
Regardless of Hitler's noted stubborness, I think when aliens show up with powerful future technology that can help him win the war even he would listen.
I also think Braga's been reading Harry Turtledove.
Posted by Ultra Manjuice (Member # 239) on :
It is usually common to take inspiration from sources that don't suck.
Harry Turtledoce is the worst thing since poking your scrotum with a knife made out of flaming lava and salt.
Posted by Bond, James Bond (Member # 1127) on :
I'll have to take your word on that.
Posted by Ultra Manjuice (Member # 239) on :
Turtledoce.
He's Italian. Writes books about crazy alternate pastas in which the minestrone had paesto instead of brasilia.
Crazy shit those are.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Na'khul"? Geez, you'd think JMS was already writing for them...
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
I'm reading Turtledove's Worldwar series right now, actually, and its quite good. In my opinion, anyways.
Posted by machf (Member # 1233) on :
Well... some people think those lizards must be the stupidest species in the whole universe. But I enjoyed the books anyway.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: "Na'khul"? Geez, you'd think JMS was already writing for them...
Because there was a character Na'Toth in B5? If he was, we'd soon have some sort of poorly disguised plagarism of Tolkien.
Don't get me wrong - I liked B5... lots.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
My favorite alternate history of WWII novel is The Grasshopper Lies Heavy.
[ July 26, 2004, 01:04 AM: Message edited by: Sol System ]
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR:
quote:Originally posted by TSN: "Na'khul"? Geez, you'd think JMS was already writing for them...
Because there was a character Na'Toth in B5? If he was, we'd soon have some sort of poorly disguised plagarism of Tolkien.
Don't get me wrong - I liked B5... lots.
You mean like Na'khul vs. Nazgul?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Oh dear.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Was just thinking. I think it sucks and long time viewers will be cheated if they wrap the Temporal Cold War up in one two-parter!! I mean this has been going on for 3 years PLUS it was the catalyst that resulted in the Enterprise being launced in the first place. AND the TCW is too entwined in a number of Galactic powers, the Klingons and the Tholians to name just two. Oh and I want more Tholian appearences! That Tholian voice *shiver*, very well done.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"...we'd soon have some sort of poorly disguised plagarism of Tolkien."
I really wish people would broaden their reference frames to include more than just the works of Tolkien before leveling criticism at anyone else for copying them.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
quote:Originally posted by machf: Well... some people think those lizards must be the stupidest species in the whole universe. But I enjoyed the books anyway.
Maybe they're all infected with Chaos, and they do things so slowly to counteract it...
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Didn't they already do an episode where T'Pol was supposed to get married but didn't? I thought that was in the second season...
And I hadn't thought about the fact that the TCW involes the Klingons and the Tholians. There was evidently some fairly heavy involvement, too, since the Tholians seemed to know what the dealio was with that 31st century pod. How do you wrap up everyone's involvement in two episodes?
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Maybe they're all infected with Chaos, and they do things so slowly to counteract it...
*snerk*
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: Didn't they already do an episode where T'Pol was supposed to get married but didn't? I thought that was in the second season...
And I hadn't thought about the fact that the TCW involes the Klingons and the Tholians. There was evidently some fairly heavy involvement, too, since the Tholians seemed to know what the dealio was with that 31st century pod. How do you wrap up everyone's involvement in two episodes?
I thought that about T'Pol too - maybe the betrothed is now REALLY serious about getting his mate... Pon Farr?
How do they rap it up - poorly i'd suppose. The idea was intruiging. Were there any other races involved... the Tellerites?
Thing is with the Tholians... if something is going on with the Klingons and/or the Romulans they seem to also have a keen interest. So the Romulans could have been indirectly tied in there.
Sounds to me like another case of Star Trek producer revisionist history.
Posted by Bond, James Bond (Member # 1127) on :
In the first season episode "Breaking the Ice", T'pol was supposed to leave Enterprise aboard the Vulcan ship that was shadowing them because she was betrothed to a man named Koss, and they were supposed to be married within a week or his parents would call it off. She would have to leave Enterprise because Vulcan custom would require that they live togather for at least a year IIRC.
The man she is supposed to marry in this episode is Koss again.
Posted by Ultra Manjuice (Member # 239) on :
It is a good thing that Vulcan Marriages are not Three-Way Marriages, and that the third party is not named T'Ann.
Koss, T'Ann, T'Pol.
No, you idiots. It's Ishtar N'baul.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Well, I'm glad it's the same guy. I can buy it if it's actually a continuation of the storyline.
I'm actually curious to see what will happen to T'Pol and the Vulcans in general now that the Xindi arc is finished.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
I can see her getting a Starfleet commission, if she wanted it.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Instead of an interesting WW2 what-if, it actually seems more likely to be a very silly way to move the entire WW2 to New York, and make it a nice americocentric war.
THANK FUCK AMERICANS ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THOSE EUROPEAN PUSSIES!
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
SFX has the most idiotic headlines I've ever read. And I'm guessing that, more often than not, the cover photo is positioned like the one they have featured now, so that it looks like the title of the magazine is "SEX"
So Archer spends some time in a Nazi-ized New York and romances a black Edith Keeler type. Ok.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
You got it in one, Alan. I used to read it until about 2001 when it became plain that the whole magazine was turning into one big Buffy fanzine.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
This is part of the Vast American Conspiracy to Dehumanize and Humiliate the Proud Peoples of Germany, of course.
(Also, "what happens to the Vulcans now?" would seem to be a question answered way back on page one of this thread.)
Posted by Ultra Manjuice (Member # 239) on :
CONSTANTINOPLE.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Harry: Instead of an interesting WW2 what-if, it actually seems more likely to be a very silly way to move the entire WW2 to New York, and make it a nice americocentric war.
No, it's clearly a cost-cutting measure - just using the New York back-lot set on the Paramount Lot again.
How many times in Trek ALONE has it been?
City on the Edge of Forever (I'm not too sure about TOS - if it was built then and if so if it was redressed a number of times - like for "Miri" or "Return of the Archons".
There was at least "Emergence" [TNG] and "Past Tense part 1 and 2" [DS9], "Far Beyond The Stars" [DS9] any others that have used the New York set on the Paramount Lot?
Posted by Bond, James Bond (Member # 1127) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ultra Manjuice: CONSTANTINOPLE.
GOT IT THE FIRST TIME. NO FUNNIER THE SECOND TIME AROUND.
Archer was from upstate New York, so maybe he spent a lot of time in NYC and they wanted to use his knowledge of the city as a plot point somehow.
Posted by Ultra Manjuice (Member # 239) on :
You're a sassy brat, and apparently don't know my methods, or the breadth of my genius.
BYZANTIUM.
Posted by Futurama IV Shizzle (Member # 968) on :
quote:Originally posted by Harry: THANK FUCK AMERICANS ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THOSE EUROPEAN PUSSIES!
60 years later and the bitterness still lingers.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR:
quote:Originally posted by Harry: Instead of an interesting WW2 what-if, it actually seems more likely to be a very silly way to move the entire WW2 to New York, and make it a nice americocentric war.
No, it's clearly a cost-cutting measure - just using the New York back-lot set on the Paramount Lot again.
How many times in Trek ALONE has it been?
City on the Edge of Forever (I'm not too sure about TOS - if it was built then and if so if it was redressed a number of times - like for "Miri" or "Return of the Archons".
There was at least "Emergence" [TNG] and "Past Tense part 1 and 2" [DS9], "Far Beyond The Stars" [DS9] any others that have used the New York set on the Paramount Lot?
I'm fairly certain the last time we engaged Alien Nazis(tm) the New York backlot was used, albeit redressed as random French town saved by TEH USA!!1! TEH USA!1!!. (Alternately, I suppose they could have borrowed some other studio's more cobblestoney backlot. But alternate theories displease me.)
Bernd's review of this coming premiere will be one for the ages. I anticipate those dirty racist Americans being put in their place once and for all.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Indeed. The shame will be sufficient to compel Dubya to withdraw from the election.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
quote:Originally posted by Futurama IV Shizzle:
quote:Originally posted by Harry: THANK FUCK AMERICANS ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THOSE EUROPEAN PUSSIES!
60 years later and the bitterness still lingers.
I think he's refering to the fact that Hollywood appears to believe that the US won WW2 alone with no help whatsoever (except possibly a couple of ludicrously upper class incompetant Brits), and the attendant impression that many Americans seem to believe the same thing. So not exactly 60 years.
quote: Bernd's review of this coming premiere will be one for the ages. I anticipate those dirty racist Americans being put in their place once and for all.
Well, it'll be something to look forward to at any rate...
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
quote: I think he's refering to the fact that Hollywood appears to believe that the US won WW2 alone with no help whatsoever (except possibly a couple of ludicrously upper class incompetant Brits), and the attendant impression that many Americans seem to believe the same thing. So not exactly 60 years.
Not only that, but also the fact that Hollywood usually thinks it's easier to simply feed those misconceptions (need I mention U-571?) instead of telling more truthful stories.
Posted by Futurama IV Skin (Member # 968) on :
I know what I said and I stand beside that.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
What bitterness? Where? What?
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Just chew on your arm for a minute and you'll notice that you're actually lemon flavoured..
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Lemons are not bitter, they are sour.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
I just thought of that. That's the effect of too much bitter. Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Yes. A Babel conference. With Andorians and Tellarites. And.. Romulans!?
And also, Orions! Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Shrek!
Okay, Orions seem consistent with previous portrayals... But I was hoping for something more interesting. Such as not all of them being green.
And "Babel One" sounds rather pre-trodden as well. With the "Soong Arc" and "Vulcan Arc" ongoing, I think that soon enough we'll be yelling for a respite of some sort. Can the new bunch of writers do decent one-parter, standalone episodes? That's what will ultimately matter, not their ability to juggle characters and trivia from ep to ep.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
pre-trodden - well it's an overview - so we won't know until we SEE the episode - BUT to me it sounds GREAT I enjoyed the overview - let's hope the episode doesn't disappoint... I can't wait! The Romulan War is coming?? Anyone??
Andrew
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Wow. And I thought Archer's ancestors were long-lived. Soong's about 200 years old, I guess?
Hopefully, he's been in cryogenic sleep for 150 years. Though, how they'd explain that, I don't know.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Erm, you do know that Spiner's playing Arik Soong, Noonien's ancestor, right?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, yes. So?
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
And Arik, too, is merely a descendant of the people who actually were involved in the EW. Or perhaps not even a descendant, but just a latter-day fan. He was NOT alive in the 1990s, at least not according to these blurbs.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Erm...
"When genetic supermen left over from the Eugenics Wars hijack a Klingon ship, Archer must rely on their creator, the criminal Dr. Arik Soong, to help hunt them down."
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
That has to be a slip of the UPN pen... in all other previews/spoilers, Soong merely revives a bunch of frozen supermen from some medical station.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Please note that these plot details have not yet been confirmed by Paramount Pictures, and until such time you should treat this information as you would any other rumour from an unofficial source. This report is based on an early draft of the script and aspects of the episode may change before it goes to air.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Whereas my quote is directly off startrek.com.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Maybe he makes a new batch using the old recipe?
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Dr. Stavros Keniclius
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Mmmm... giant T'Pol.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
. . . where it says STARTREK.COM Exclusive: "To Boldly Go..." - is this a new credit sequence?
My guess would be that it's a rejected title sequence - maybe it even dates from the show's inception, there's nothing to date it after all. Thematically it displays many similarities to the DS9 and Voyager title sequences - and, to be honest, it's really rather boring.
Wasn't it previously announced that in season 3 they would beef up the title song, and change the show's name to "Star Trek: Enterprise?" There's been no advanced word of any changes now we're in season 4, and if they wanted to keep it a secret why release this footage on the official site's page for the next episode?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Well, the song and the name were changed last season, though, come to think of it, while the show is officially "Star Trek: Enterprise," I can't recall if it says that in the credits. The name seemed to come from odd directions, as I recall. (Many media references to the show had "Star Trek" in front of the title from the beginning. Then as I recall there were a few UPN stations that ran their promos with that heading, though the show itself was still being referred to as just plain "Enterprise," and then the name seemed to officially switch either with the third season premiere or shortly thereafter.)
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Yes, they added the words "Star Trek" to the title sequence last year.
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