LET THIS. BE. THE FINAL. THREAD. FOR ENT! (of course, you all talked about this last summer 6 or 7 threads ago...)
I SAY THIS. I SAY THIS NOW. I SAY THIS LOUD. AND PROUD. (have to have something do since i gonna wait to get my car until tommorrow)
END THE ENTERPRISE THREAD. LONG LIVE ARCHER! (Pedotrek? yeah, i'm shockingly smirking too. I was bored)
AND BRING FORTH. A NEW THREAD. A THREAD OF POTENTIAL. A THREAD FOR THE AGES
JJ-A TREK!
'Because we lack a better name, lack vision and generally partake in vigorous penguin games'
WHAT SAY YOU? IS 4 MONTHS SINCE THE LAST TIME WE POSTED ON ENT THREAD ENOUGH TO RETIRE THIS GREAT THREAD OF MORAL DEBATE, INFORMATIVE POLITICAL VIEWS AND RIOTOUS AMOUNTS OF FRN'ECH PENGUIN MATING RITUALS?
Well?
AND IF YOUR WONDERING WHY�.
I wished I could have been just as cool as what's his face's Sig when he had the last laugh bashing Jane's Bun, too... cause i really really want the last laugh (don't lock this )
Discuss! Fight!
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
double post (delete)
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
Damn you! For 4 months I was the last one to post here!
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I just finished playing Half Life 2 again. I like it. It's a good game. I'm sorry, what's this thread about again? Penguin Pr0n?
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Agreed. Just as much as I was the last poster here for a while. Trek XI forum, HO!
Mark
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
The entire four years of Enterprise were just a holodeck-induced figment of Will Riker's imagination. When you add everything up, it totally makes sense. That's why there were
a) Ferengi,
b) Borg,
c) Klingons named Duras, Klingon Birds-of-Prey, K'T'inga class ships and Klingon ships named Bor'tas,
d) Romulan ships with cloaking devices and nacelles from a Dominion warship,
e) Romulan and Reman uniforms from the 24th century,
f) Rene Oberjonois and J.G. Hertzler,
g) It's why the NX-01 looks like an Akira class starship,
h) why there was a Starfleet Command before the Federation,
i) why the rank pips were similar to TNG,
j) why all the Starfleet ship names were the same as their 24th century counterparts,
k) why holodeck technology was discovered in the second episode but wasn't utilized for 200 years later,
l) why there were Steamrunner class starships and Xhosa-type freighters in the 22nd century,
m) Section 31 goons that looked and acted just like their 24th century counterparts,
n) (the most damning evidence) why we never saw Chef for the entire four years until the last episode,
...and on and on.
Case closed! Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Steamrunner class Starship? Where?
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
When Enterprise returns to the correct timeline at the end of "Storm Front, Pt. II," it is greeted by a fleet of Starfleet and Vulcan ships. In the far background are some Steamrunners.
No, it wasn't Riker's hallucination, he was way too old in "These are the Voyages..." for it to be chronologically sound to place it during that whole Pegasus mess.
No, I think Jonathan Frakes, in actuality, hallucinated Enterprise and then Paramount made him write it down so they could make some more money.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: When Enterprise returns to the correct timeline at the end of "Storm Front, Pt. II," it is greeted by a fleet of Starfleet and Vulcan ships. In the far background are some Steamrunners.
I think you might be confusing those with Intrepid-type ships.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Okay, can someone explain to me why whenever I click on a linked image from Trekcore all I get is the main page?
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Probably to prevent people from putting inline images from their site elsewhere. Just copy & paste the link into a new tab.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Everything created after Star Trek:Generations is really a hallucination of Picard's. He's still trapped inside the Nexus. And, since the Nexus will let you live out any fantasy you want, he is living out his fantasy of going back in time, stopping Soran and moving on with his life.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
quote:I think you might be confusing those with Intrepid-type ships.
No, I'm not. The ship directly between the Enterprise and Earth, and the ship near the top of Earth and to the left, are Steamrunners.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
*squints, squints, squints s'more* *moves in closer*
Yup! Just as I thought - look like blobs to me! Seriously, I don't know how y'all can make stuff out, tiny as that is. And I have experience in petrographic microscopy! It boggles my mind to see the kinds of analysis done on grainy VHS captures from back in the day...
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
I had much larger screencaps on my computer somewhere when the episode first came out, and they show Steamrunners. Take my word for it Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
The one above and to the left of Earth looks unmistakably like a Steamrunner to me, and that's the first time I saw the image. *shrug*
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Those bastards...
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
/me blinks...
so if Ent was entirely like a dream, does that mean when my brother described season 3 of Ent to be like Star Blazers... was he wrong?
/me blinks
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Yes. Totally and irrefutably wrong.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Riker's also a fan of Star Blazers?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
The nacelle ends of the NX-01 look like they where made in Lightwave 1.0.
Steamrunner here, ffs. Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
OMG, Frn'echNim! You plot spoiler! I would have NEVER suspected the Colverfield Moanster was a left hand, let alone Red colored...
Could the two Steamrunners possibly be an 'easter egg' you know...?
/me huggles Nim for pic
[ January 24, 2008, 08:52 AM: Message edited by: Pensive's Wetness ]
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Yeah about that Cloverfield, I really don't want see it, but I loved to know what that monster looks like. From the commercials it seems that New York is attack by a giant stick of broccoli.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: Yeah about that Cloverfield, I really don't want see it, but I loved to know what that monster looks like. From the commercials it seems that New York is attack by a giant stick of broccoli.
You were thinking about 'The Cunt that ate NY*', a classic in certain parts of america (usually the same places Pee Wee Hermin frenquented before the birth of Online Peguin Pr0n)...
*I just happened to remember a very old pic from Hustler, a pr0n joke add for a movie...
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
MONSTER MUFF! Questions to a Cloverfield Monster...
1st Question. Is the Cloverfield Monster terrestial? You see something fall into the Atlantic Ocean behind the pair of lovers in the video tape and according to the latest edit of Wiki, the 'Satalite' is what provokes that attack of a monster that was already here in the ocean.
So i ask this: For something that lumbers on it's 4 functional limbs like a spider almost, but possesses 2 more center line vegial limbs, is it really a earth born beastie, and not a exterestial beastie, ala Space Godzilla?
/me skids the Topic back into Oncoming traffic and asked again.
Long Live ENT. Hail Star Trek XI forum!
i mean, that's a really good title for the new thread, ja?
Perhaps the creature is a government experiment gone wrong. Like placing a salamander in Type 2 shuttle that can travel at warp ten.
NX-01 is dead, long live the NX-01!
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
The wiki says that Abrams has said the thing was asleep for thousands of years in the Mid-Atlantic Rift or something (it said "rift," there's only one in the Atlantic that I know of...and I don't think something would stay in the same place there over thousands of years) and was awakened by a satellite that fell on it.
Which is fucking ridiculous. If it didn't burn up in the atmosphere or serialize on impact with the ocean, it certainly wouldn't have enough velocity at the bottom of the ocean to wake anything that big up, that slept for that long.
And it must be ET. Otherwise there'd be fossils of it.
Man, Cloverfield sucked. Said he wanted to avoid appearing like Godzilla, make an American monster - but he has a giant monster attack NYC, that's freaking Godzilla in principle!; supposed to be a frightened newborn and not just a random killer - yet the effects guys are quoted as saying it was a random killer with no personality, like an entity, and they never tell the audience it's a frightened newborn; and nothing is that freaking tough. I don't care if it has diamond-titanium skin. After all those soldiers with assault rifles, tanks, fighter jets, and *B-2's dropping MOABs,* it would be *toast.*
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
Maybe they just read some L Ron Hubble stool water, and like the underwater scary monster thing waiting for thousands of years to destroy stuff.
Bad luck for them Godzilla did the monster attacks NYC thing, and that Battlefield Earth (my fingers burn at typing the name) sucked. Big suck. Suck level = love child of a Thai whore and Megamaid.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: The wiki says that Abrams has said the thing was asleep for thousands of years in the Mid-Atlantic Rift or something (it said "rift," there's only one in the Atlantic that I know of...and nothing is that freaking tough. I don't care if it has diamond-titanium skin. After all those soldiers with assault rifles, tanks, fighter jets, and *B-2's dropping MOABs,* it would be *toast.*
Dude, let me explain something to you. At a depth of 2 & a half miles, the equivalent water pressure is 5880 pounds per square inch; for a visual example, imagine two Volvos sitting on just your big toe. At 10,000 feet down, a Styrofoam coffee cup gets compressed to the size of a thimble. Now, there are many organisms that reside at those depths, & the larger they are, the squishier they are usually--the 40-foot giant squid, for example. Now, for something with the rigidity of the Cloverfield monster to survive intact at those depths, at those pressures, & not be compressed it would have to have an outer casing with at LEAST the same properties as the Mir submersibles' 5-cm-thick nickel/steel pressure sphere...& that's 1987 technology.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
But still, for an animal to be built like that?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
In Roman times, the rhinoceros & the giraffe were considered bizarre oddities created by Jove as a drunken lark. Look at some of the other deep-sea creatures that still amaze people to this day.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I'm not referring to it's appearance, but to its ability to withstand so much weapons fire.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: I'm not referring to it's appearance, but to its ability to withstand so much weapons fire.
Well since today is fat jokes day...
The Cloverfield Monster is powered by (Star Trek XI Forum!!!!) Ohpratechnology!
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Again, note the math. Two Volvos per inch. If it can bear that much weight over such a large area, I'd be surprised if anything short of a nuclear device would make much of a dent.
Think of it this way: If you slingshot rocks at a car, what are the chances you're going to penetrate the outer shell & damage the inside enough to stop it?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
quote:Originally posted by Shik:
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: The wiki says that Abrams has said the thing was asleep for thousands of years in the Mid-Atlantic Rift or something (it said "rift," there's only one in the Atlantic that I know of...and nothing is that freaking tough. I don't care if it has diamond-titanium skin. After all those soldiers with assault rifles, tanks, fighter jets, and *B-2's dropping MOABs,* it would be *toast.*
Dude, let me explain something to you. At a depth of 2 & a half miles, the equivalent water pressure is 5880 pounds per square inch; for a visual example, imagine two Volvos sitting on just your big toe. At 10,000 feet down, a Styrofoam coffee cup gets compressed to the size of a thimble. Now, there are many organisms that reside at those depths, & the larger they are, the squishier they are usually--the 40-foot giant squid, for example. Now, for something with the rigidity of the Cloverfield monster to survive intact at those depths, at those pressures, & not be compressed it would have to have an outer casing with at LEAST the same properties as the Mir submersibles' 5-cm-thick nickel/steel pressure sphere...& that's 1987 technology.
......Which was rather my *point*.....it isn't going to feel a little satellite dropping on its head, by the time the satellite gets to the bottom, if it could somehow hypothetically survive the descent ("it" being the satellite, not the monster). Also, you might want to look into the concussive pressures generated by a MOAB. Not to mention if it could be that rigid and survive those pressures it should die of decompression at sea level.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
/me casts Summon Kuddle Kittens Three on thread.
Me say this! ENT dies! Nim Lives!
uh, well i think i got the quote right...
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
/me bounces your Kuddle Kitten with a Decree of Silence
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: ......Which was rather my *point*.....it isn't going to feel a little satellite dropping on its head, by the time the satellite gets to the bottom, if it could somehow hypothetically survive the descent ("it" being the satellite, not the monster).
Hey, not everyone is a heavy sleeper.
quote:Also, you might want to look into the concussive pressures generated by a MOAB. Not to mention if it could be that rigid and survive those pressures it should die of decompression at sea level.
We don't know the biology of the thing. It might have a pressure system built-in.In fact, if it's as amphibious as I've heard, then it would damn well have to.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I dunno. Maybe I'm taking my disgust with the plot a bit too far and spilling it onto the monster.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: /me bounces your Kuddle Kitten with a Decree of Silence
Ya know, in the hey day of my RP play of Millia on ALFA, some folks would have killed for that to be cast on her... or at least a permancied 'Comprehend Languages'?
Nobody save JenWa or maybe Dara was bright enough to yell at Millia to explain things in Elvish Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
The real issue is not the creatures ability to survive at extreme depth, but it's abilty to come to the surface and go on a city destroying rampage.
If it's terrestrial (well from earth I mean, as it obviously came from the sea), it's probably mostly water - water is fairly incompressable, so the whole livng at the bottom of the sea thing does not mean that it has to be armour plated etc: a styrofoam cup shrinks to the size of an (almost) unexpanded styrofoam cup, as in, the styrofoam containing no air - that's whats compressed, the air, not the styrofoam (allthough obviously at such pressure it will be pressed into a very rigid mass).
The armour would be nessecary to support the huge weight of the creature on land, not at the bottom of the ocean. Of course, the creature seems to be huge enough that it might just have a tough and thick enough hide, or even some sort of exoskeletal structure that allows it to surivive being shot at, blown up, bombed and so forth. It's just not very likely, I think, given the amount of punishment thrown its way.
The other thing is of course how the creature breathes - as I said before any air filled cavities at great depth are a no-no, so it must either be able to expell all of the air before it takes a dip, or it has gills or something, and is able to go long periods before it repleneshes it's oxygen supply (unlikely given it's size), or it's amphibian, and can do both.
By the way, given that this is the Enterprise forum, aren't we getting a little off track. I know Cloverfield had the Trek 11 trailer tacked on to it, but this is pushing it fellas.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
Heh, the point was too get a new forum made, decommision ENT and me get the last word!
but you can blame me for driving the topic bus funny like, dear... Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Yes, given that the point was to demolish the ENT forum, maybe getting off track is perfect
Although I'd love to see what Enterprise's pitiful little spatial torpedoes would do to that monster. Probably less than those soldiers' M16s.
Oh man, that story bothers me, because it's getting so much attention. CNN even had a whole segment about it. Apparently the attention is because they don't know yet where it will land... Yeah, well, they will when the time comes, and if it's gonna fall on a populated area they'll shoot it down.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
You do realize how insanely difficult it is to shoot something like that down?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I don't know much about the capabilities of weapons systems, but I've heard a missile from a Nighthawk can hit a particular window in a particular building from two miles away...if that's true, then our missile systems must be pretty accurate...and if they know the trajectory of the thing they're trying to hit, couldn't they just fire a few missiles and one would have to hit close enough? I mean, if they know it'll be at Y location at X time, isn't the only problem how close to Y and X they can put a missile?
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
Missle Defence Shield? Guess the best time to test it is now... ?
Posted by Zefram (Member # 1568) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: I mean, if they know it'll be at Y location at X time, isn't the only problem how close to Y and X they can put a missile?
Well, there's the question of how well they know it's trajectory. In 2002 the landing zone of the debris from a previous falling satellite was miscalculated by several thousand miles. Also, trajectories are a lot easier to calculate for purely celestial objects. Once that satellite hits the atmosphere it's path can become unpredictable, especially as it begins breaking up. Also, lobbing missiles about might cause more problems than it would solve. Accidentally landing some explosives in an unfortunate place may be worth it if you're trying to stop a nuclear warhead, but if the object you're trying to shoot down isn't especially explosive, you might be better off letting it land.
Officially, they're worried about beryllium in the satellite, which can cause problems if inhaled. Considering how far the debris of this satellite will probably be spread, and the low level of exposure that anyone would be likely to receive, I'm not sure why they're all that worried... unless of course the satellite also carries the dreaded Andromeda Strain.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
So, I saw on the news they're shooting it down.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I just saw that. THey were originally planning on launching the missile earlier, (i think today) but they decided to let ATLANTIS come down from orbit first. How nice of them.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Well last I heard they might not do to choppy water. See they're launching the missile from a ship.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Well that's simple. Launch it from a submarine. I think most cruise missles and SAM's are able to be launched from the Torp tubes of a modern attack sub. They're gyro-stabalized to compensate for the choppy seas, or something.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
It was the USS Lake Erie (CG-70) that shot it down.
Posted by Zefram (Member # 1568) on :
Apparently they used one of the newer anti-ballistic missiles to destroy the satellite.
You know, modern warfare has become extremely dependent on GPS satellites, spy satellites, etc. If multiple nations were to develop similar missiles, a whole lot of military technology and hardware would suddenly become a lot less effective once the satellites started coming down.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Hence why the Machines won the war.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
quote:Originally posted by Zefram: Apparently they used one of the newer anti-ballistic missiles to destroy the satellite.
You know, modern warfare has become extremely dependent on GPS satellites, spy satellites, etc. If multiple nations were to develop similar missiles, a whole lot of military technology and hardware would suddenly become a lot less effective once the satellites started coming down.
One of the issues in the early days of the First Gulf War was that Iraq still had access to satellite feeds provided by the West. Reason? Too many other countries were also subscribing to the same weather satellite signals for that part of the world so they couldn't or wouldn't shut it off.
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
.....
I dunno. Just thought I'd post something on here. I do remember when this was a VOY thread. Now it's lifeless. Is there any plans to replace this with something else...?
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
quote:Originally posted by shikaru808: a VOY thread. Now it's lifeless.
Wasn't this an ENT thread? And isn't it's lifelessness very symbolic?
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
I would assume. I actually enjoyed the last season a lot. But I really think that they should have made the whole Xindi thing into the Earth-Romulan War. Would have been a lot cooler and definitely more canon.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I assume that if the series had continued, they would have done that. It would be ending this year.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
Fuck you all, i'm busy reading Yoshi lemons on AdultFanFiction.Net...
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
*I'm* reading Hermione/Dumbledore.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Dumbledore is/was gay. I doubt that there is/was any chance of a sexual encounter of any sort. Now Hermione/Ginny...
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
I throughly enjoy your new tag Sean. Someone out there has it out for you...
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Dumbledore was gay in *canon* but fanfics are another story Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
quote:Originally posted by shikaru808: I throughly enjoy your new tag Sean. Someone out there has it out for you...
Gee, you think J-j-j-j-junior?
So, Dan, you'd rather read a weird magicall pedifilic fan-fic? Dumbledore and Mcgonagall...
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Continued thought*****
Actually, I'd always thought that Picard was gay, with a thing for Wesley. Or that wesley was just plain weird, and enjoyed stuffing his ass with tribbles.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
You can edit posts you know
Wesley was a terrible character. Nothing against the actor, but certainly against the writing staff. They just had no clue how to write for a kid.
Anyway, I think Picard's "thing" for Wesley had more to do with the fact that he was responsible for Wesley's dad's death.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Yeah, kind of like the relationship between Snape and Harry, well, sort of.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
without the buttsecks i'd gather... (i should ask a lovely T-girl i know if Harry Potter Gay Pr0n is popular or not... Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Actually a sexual relationship between Harry and snape is just freaky. I was referring to how snape felt he had to protect harry, as he loved harry's mother.
Wait, this is a CHILDREN's BOOK!!!! Where did the Slash fiction come from?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
This is the INTERNET, son.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Psh, yeah. Scarred my little mind when I was younger than you, looking for fanfics to tide me over between books, and found Draco/Harry was the most popular subgenre...o.O;
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
Gentlemen, Behold! Corn! Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
How utterly and completely out of place in this thread and forum. Congratulations. Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Hey, he dances like me.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
i just realised... we should END this thread & created a new FORUM, called JJtrek...
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I remember the 1st Comic-Con I went to, there was a gun dressed up as Richard Simmons with a stormtrooper helmet on. That guy could dance...
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Seriously, I don't know how y'all can make stuff out, tiny as that is. And I have experience in petrographic microscopy! It boggles my mind to see the kinds of analysis done on grainy VHS captures from back in the day...
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