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Masao
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I was working on some Romulan ships of my own and looked to extant ships for design ideas. When examining the Klingon bird of prey, I couldn't quite figure out where the nacelles are supposed to be. They aren't out at the ends of the wings, where nacelles are usually placed in Romulan and Klingon designs. Most of the machinery at the center looks to be associated with the powerplant or impulse engines or both. So where are the nacelles?

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Well, many ships don't have clear cut nacelles. Especially Cardassian Galors which may have something like "internal" nacelles. I've always assumed that the center fuselage of the BoP was where they kept the warp drive

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The warp engine on a Bird-of-Prey is in the back of the ship between the wings.

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Are you sure? I thought that is where the impulse engines are. If that is where the warp nacelles are then were is the impulse engines?

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I think that the nacelles are indeed along either side of the 'fuselage' where the 'wings' start.

I think the impulse engine is at the rear along with the nacelle's "vents" I guess like the Defiant...

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Masao
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So, the warp field generator is just sort of "in there someplace" between the wings? Can it be identified on the surface? Is is a paired structure (like usual nacelles) or is it a large midline structure? If it is a midline structure, this is the only canon appearance of such a midline nacelle on a ship (I think). Are the nacelles perhaps the two paired humps back there? Did the designer forget them?

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I don' think a designer would forget to put nacelles on a starship that is supposed to take on Starfleet's ships when it was designed in the 23rd century. Maybe the impulse egines are somewhere in the wings.

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Well, the Freedom just has the one nacelle in the middle...

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Well, the Freedom might have two rows of nacelle coils in the one nacelles 'casing'!?!

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I really don't think that would make much of a difference in the warp field, so I doubt it.

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I don't think there's ever been a canonical or even reliably semi-canonical answer to the BoP warp drive question. Perhaps something in the Fact Files or the Magazine?

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I've seen an Okudagram reproduced somewhere in a book that showed a line of warp coils down the centreline of the ship, corresponding to that big glowy thing at the back. As for impulse... *shrug*

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Masao
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I forgot about Freedom, but I was thinking more of a nacelle buried within the hull rather than on a support.

Anyways, has anyone examined this BOP cutaway poster up close? Of course, it's non- (pseudo-, quasi-, semi-, para-) canon, but it's a lisenced product, at least. http://www.scipubtech.com/bofp/index.htm

The picture on the site is too small to see any details.

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Well, at the very top of the aft hull, you can see three objects of purple and greenish-yellow color, arranged in a line from bow to stern. They look very, very much like a cutout view of a warp coil. If we suppose that there are further coils aft of the ones we see, then the cutout diagram perfectly matches the Okudagrams that show a single line of warp coils in the aft centerline.

As for those Okudagrams... I guess they could have been drawn as early as for ST4 already (the first Okuda contribution of them all), or then only added for TNG Klingon eps, or even for DS9 "Blood Oath". In any case, one is reproduced in the Reeves-Stevens "Making of DS9" book. I gather the ship in question was one of the typical "midsize" BoPs, although it would be fun if the smallest BoPs had one row of coils while the bigger ones had two or three...

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Look at the red glow - then look either side there are some sort of 'Klingonesque' rectangular 'nacelles' protruding out the back... they look like Klingon nacelles - retangular and thin. Also the nacelles could be like the Defiant - with the red glow at the back the only evidence of the nacelles... like the blue glow at the back of the Defiant nacelles...

I think even though there are nacelles and a red glow, the impulse engine is DEFINATELY that middle part...

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