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Has anybody ever figured out how many photon torpedoes the ENTERPRISE-A had aboard for last mission? I found an oversized photo on the internet of the photon torpedo inventory screen as seen in Star Trek 6 and counted 96 torpedoes!? I did 4 counts just to be sure!
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96 doesn't seem like an unusual number. Voyager started with 32 torps and the E-D had 200+.
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The main problem would be where the casings are stored. A hundred torps sounds perfectly okay for a Constitution class ship, even if Kirk used them surprisingly sparingly - but the casings have to go somewhere. Traditional cutouts of the ship do not show large magazines. But probably a major chunk of the connecting fin would have to be dedicated to torpedo storage if 100 of them were available.
It seems unlikely the torps could be anywhere else but the connecting fin. The casings came from above in ST2, after all. Of course, the ST2 ship might have been a special case, a ship configured differently from other Constitutions because a) she was a prototype conversion and b) she was a training ship. The E-A could have been a series-production ship with a drastically different (and larger and better) torp system, as hinted at by the different interiors of deck 13 (or what little we saw of them).
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The torpedoes came from above on the E-Nil. What was the main thing that blew up when it self-dectructed? The saucer. Might these two facts be connected somehow?
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Yes, well, the front section of the saucer was what blew off. Nothing behind the bridge was really destroyed, and I really doubt any form of torpedo magazine would be stored way up there, especially sicne most deck plans we have seen for the Connies and refit Connies have crew quarters filling up the large sum of the saucer section.
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So what blew up then? Crewmen's smelly socks? Whatever. Must have made for a hell of an orientation lecture: "Here's your bunk. Mind you don't stub your toe on the scuttling charge underneath it."
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If any of you have Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, it has an amazingly good explanation of why the primary hull detonated and not the secondary hull.
It stated there were two self destruct codes. One was to be initiated in free space far from any planetary bodies. This would override the safety protocols and open the magnetic interlocks (or whatever they're called) on the antimatter storage bottles, blowing the whole ship up like a giant antimatter bomb. The resulting explosion would hopefully take any ship near it as well, (this sort of explains why Kirk wanted to get away from the Reliant before the Genesis device went off and detonated the antimatter containers).
Another was to be initiated when the ship was close to a planet or other celestial object. It would overrride the main breakers and arm ordnance packages throughout the primary and secondary hull. The resulting explosion from the ordnace packages and electrical overload, while not as spectacular, would render the ship a lifeless hulk useless to enemy captors. If the ship was in luck, its orbit would destabilize and it would fall into the atmosphere of the neighboring planet or aforementioned celestial object. The antimatter bottles would be ejected along a preselected route chosen by the computer in the last minute before detonation. This is what we saw in ST-III. Everything except the antimatter bottles.
Wow! I typed that all from memory too! Hm, that's actually kind of sad.
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I've actually never asked; What is the official reason the Genesis-torpedo didn't need a planetary host to form a planet this time? Was the billions of kilos of matter compressed in energy inside it?
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I was about to ask about what happened to the antimatter bottles if the saucer-destruct option was enabled. . . Hmm. It sort of makes sense, I guess. Might even explain why the ship was nudged out of orbit - equal and opposite reaction to the ejection force!
My Dynamics lecturer would probably turn in his grave. . .
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I've always wondered about how the Genesis device was able to form a planet when it wasn't introduced on a planet. The closest I've been able to figure is that when the Genesis detonated, it somehow began using the matter from the Reliant and the Mutara nebula to form a planetary body. This could be an additional explanation as to why the Genesis planet was so unstable (of course, using a protomatter matrix is still the big #1 reason).
Some support of this theory can be scene in the Reliant explosion scene in Star Trek II. The Reliant explodes, filling the screen with white light. When the light dims, the nebula has disappeared.
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Not to jump on the bandwagon, but me too. It makes sense that the matter in the nebula was used to create the planet. That's how all planets, (presumably) start out. Perhaps the Genesis device caused a major gravity well in the local vincinity, pulling the nebular(?) dust in toward the initial explosion? At warp speed, this wouldn't have effected the Enterprise.
However, there are problems with this. What was the original structure of the Regulus system? Did it have a sun? Or was that formed when the Genesis device went off? If there was a sun there, (presumably there was), how did the Genesis planet form at the perfect distance to support a class-M habitat?
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