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Saboc
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Why is starbase 375 so small in size?
I mean shouldn't a starbase be much bigger, consisdering that a starbase is a refueling, personel-exchanging, and defensive center...

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KXZ
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I heard that it is small because of a model scaling problem (this may, and probably isn't true) because we have seen the Enterpris-D by one of these looking the same size.

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TSN
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When the starbase was built, it probably wasn't intended to be anything important. The only reason it became such a center for activity during the war was because of its proximity to the front line.

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Timo
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I'm with TSN on this - SB 375 was probably rather unimportant before the wimpy Cardassians got Dominion help and became a real threat. In fact, it would be inconsistent if the base was big and powerful and so close to Bajor - if this were true, then why didn't this starbase send help every time Sisko got into trouble? Why did Sisko have to wait for the Enterprise or some random starship to arrive to save his butt for most of the first three seasons?

I'd suggest that all the stations that look like Regula One, including the ones which omit the brown cylinders from above or below, are actually of the same size, roughly defined against known starships by shots in STII and the DS9 War Arc episodes. The images in, say, "Measure of a Man" or "Favor the Bold" that suggest a bigger station could be optical illusions or something...

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Davok
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Optical illusion... do you think Bernd would accept that as solution for his beloved size paradox? :-)

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Justin_Timberland
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Well then, I guess that this brings up the size difference between Spacedock seen in the TOS Movies and Starbase 133 in TNG.

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Cartman
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Which brings me to yet another size paradox:

The Spacedock orbiting Earth (seen in ST 3 and ST 4) is of the same design as Starbase 74 (seen in 11001100 - or whatever that episode's number was - with the Bynars) yet SB 74 has to be a LOT bigger since the E-D is 3 times larger than the E-A, so if the doors have been enlarged 3 times, that would mean the entire thing was scaled up by that same factor... and the same goes for the SB we saw in "Phantasms" (at the beginning of the episode just before the E-D flies past the camera).
So what's the situation? Are there 2 or 3 versions of the same SB with different dimensions, like with the BoP and Romulan WB or are we all going insane?

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Curry Monster
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You're going insane *L*. In all seriousness though it's down to VFX. SB1, SB74 etc are major starbases, and with the Federation fleet being so massive you can probably safely bet that there are a number of the big mushroom bases about.

SB375 type starbases were also seen in season 5, where Eddington was being held prisioner. In short, they could be just small resupply bases, interstellar waystations and the like.

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Bernd
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Actually, what bugs me most is the fact that Starbase 375 is already scaled up considerably and still much too small. The original orbital office complex (ST:TMP) is only 100m in diameter, including its branches.

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TSN
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Well, the difference between Spacedock and SB74 isn't too bad. I mean, the design is mostly cylinders and spheres and such. There's no reason the exact same external shape couldn't be scaled up. The problem is when this is done to ships and all the little details (which shouldn't change) get scaled along w/ everything else.

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warbird5
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how big is starbase 74, and how well defended is it and how many people can it hold? I'm since it's a lot bigger than DS9, it should be at least 5x as armed as ds9.

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TSN
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DS9 is on the Cardassian border. It's weapons were hugely upgraded during the Klingon war. It's bound to be equally or much better armed than SB74. I mean, who's going to attack SB74? The Bynars? ;-)

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Nim
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I have a dream... A Terok Nor station with a fourth pair of pylon's, quantum torp-batteries for long range targets and ablative armor (so the colour would be white)! The docking ring shall be filled with defiant's (10 ports) and the pylon's filled with Prometheus's (8 ports), just before "Way Of The Warrior". Now I know the klingons are our friends, but I had this idea before that.

Just a thought.

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