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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Boris: [QB] I agree, but there's no reason why these ships would've been converted before the Constitution; if anything, we wouldn't have had Constitution-class because the first ship of a class names the class. The U.S. Navy is quite strict in this regard -- sometimes classes are renamed because another ship is finished before the intended class ship. Aside from the registry numbers, another reason why this basic configuration is so old is the 40-year age from "The Making of Star Trek". That book also gives a list of Kirk's "twelve more like her", but for some reason the count works out to thirteen more. Clearly, the Valiant (NCC-1223), listed there, would've been converted to Constitution-class had it not been destroyed, and Kirk would've said "thirteen more"; it's more likely that the forty-year age is a bit off from 50-60 years than that another ship called the Valiant was built and then destroyed. An age greater than 40 years would also fit the low registry numbers better. It's very probable that some of these ships are as old as 2196, when the Daedalus was commissioned. The Constitution/Enterprise remain 20 years old, which fits their registries. However, since the Eagle, Endeavor, and the Saratoga are not included in this list, they must be significantly different from the Valiant. They probably were refitted only into Constitution-refit directly. The Defiant (also not on the list), with the next highest registry number (NCC-1764) is probably a newbuild or a delayed newbuild. As for an overall designation, Constitution-type would be a U.S. Navy designation for a one-off ship without a class (although the nomenclature has been loosened somewhat). I'd call it Constitution-family. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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