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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Guardian 2000: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Timo: [qb]Identity Crisis already got the collision thing exactly right with his momentum analysis.[/qb][/QUOTE]Oh, yes, of course, quite right, I did forget that there's a witch doctor in Engineering. I do apologize, but I find it incomprehensible that I've found myself in this argument about basic physics, especially since there's someone here who claims to have a degree in it. I'm really very sorry, but I cannot accept the notion that space vessels are Voyager-esque devices which can magick momentum out of nowhere. And don't get me wrong, you argued your point quite well, insofar as the very convincing misuse of the notion of the conservation of momentum. It's just that it isn't how you describe. Momentum is well-conserved in my model without resorting to magic, declarations, et cetera, and is well in keeping with modern technological applications of the concept (reference: NASA shuttle engines and other hypothetical space propulsion technologies). At no point did I rant, and at no point did I suggest that momentum is lost. Indeed, quite the contrary, it is opposing arguments which suggest that matter is magically gained. I'm afraid I really just can't accept that notion. Were it within our power, I would suggest that we construct a space vessel. First, I'll accelerate towards the sun, and then turn the ship around and fire the propulsion system to stop the ship. Then, I'll get out. At this point, you'll accelerate toward the sun, and lower this goofy C-shaped reverse thrust system over the engines and try to stop. I do hope you decide to jettison the silly thing and turn the ship around to decelerate, or else I'll have to break in to the ISS to get home again. Again, so sorry, G2k [/QB][/QUOTE]
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