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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phoenix: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Futurama Guy: [qb]Maybe Starship Class means the same as Runabout Class does.[/qb][/QUOTE]I can't say I have ever heard anyone say "Runabout Class" before. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Futurama Guy: [qb]A broad, generic term that eventually came to mean a variety of large spacefaring warp-capable Federation vessels. What makes the Connie any more of a "Starship" than the NX? Didn't Archer call his ship a "starship" at one point or another?[/qb][/QUOTE]That's kind of the point. Look at it like this: Now: USS New Jersey BB 62 is Iowa Class ENT: Enterprise NX-01 is NX Class TNG: USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D is Galaxy Class DS9: USS Defiant NX-74205 is Defiant Class VOY: USS Voyager NCC-74656 is Intrepid Class It does not make sense to have "Starship Class" meaning anything other than "Of the same design as a ship called Starship", as it has meant nothing else in any other Star Trek series, and means nothing else now. Archer calls his ship a "starship". Picard calls his ship a "starship". Why, between these two time periods, would SF decide that only one design of ship is in fact a "starship"? If it means all spacegoing vessels, why, when he scanned the Constellation, didn't Spock say "its a Constitution", so Kirk would know it wasn't another type of "starship", like a Hermes or Ptolemy? [QUOTE]Originally posted by Futurama Guy: [qb]The E-D was the "Federation Starship Enterprise", implying that "Starship" is a generic term for pretty much anything, a term coined when the original Enterprise was conceived, and later honed once the number of classes designed began to inflate. [/qb][/QUOTE]So on the one hand it's a generic term for pretty much anything, and on the other it's a specific designation for a type of ship (Constitution Class)? Surely it can't be both? If it's generic in ENT and TNG, why would it be different in TOS? And the point is that Starship is a name. Surely the Constellation isn't a constellation, and the Federation isn't a federation? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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