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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: [QB] I still haven't got a substantial enough amount of time this evening to type up a full post with responses to the numerous arguments that are going on here. I hope to do this tommorow. But for now, here's a couple quick things: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ryan McReynolds: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Harry: [qb]That one sketch where he explains the 1701 does give the impression he tried to make up a system for it. [/qb][/QUOTE]Incidentally, that sketch is for the refit [i]Enterprise[/i] of Phase II. I believe the book it appears in tries to pass it off as a TOS sketch, or has misleading captioning, but look at it. It is clearly one of his sketches for Phase II, with the redesigned pylons, nacelles, and so on. He even refers to the registry NCC-1701A, suggesting that "A" represents the refit version of the first ship of the seventeenth class, an idea later abandoned for TMP and quasi-resurrected for TVH. Jonah claims the system was in place during TOS, but I have never seen any evidence for that. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, just that all I've seen is the Phase II sketch. If that's the case, there was no system in TOS, but Jeffries briefly tried to retrofit one into the registry during the '70s. Any reverse extrapolation back to TOS is wishful thinking, unless there's some hidden cache of unseen drawings or never-reported Jeffries interviews. The USS [i]Constellation[/i] didn't screw up some preexisting system: there was [i]no[/i] system until Phase II, and that was abandoned. [/qb][/QUOTE]Incorrect. [URL=http://lobotomy.pleh.net/~flareupload/uploads/646/Jefferies_sketch.jpg]This sketch[/URL] whcich appears in the TOS Sketchbook is indeed a TOS pre-production drawing from when Jefferies was still refining the exterior design of the ship. [i]U.S.S.[/i] stands for [i]United Space Ship[/i], not [i]United Star Ship[/i]. This was spoken explicitly by Pike in "The Cage," right from the beginning. Kirk once also used [i]United Star Ship[/i], but this was more in reference specifically to the [i]Enterprise[/i], rather than to what the prefix stood for. (This is how the [i]Grissom[/i] could be both a scout and have a U.S.S. prefix.) -[b]MMoM[/b] :D [/QB][/QUOTE]
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