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Posted by Alexander Delarge on :

So, I go to Japan for a few weeks and everything's changed?

One of the many item that came back with me on this trip was the dreaded book STAR TREK MECHANICS. I would suggest that everyone reading this forum get one. It is published by Bunkasha, sells for 2300 yen (about $19.50), and its isbn # is ISBN4-8211-0588-8.

As to ways of getting this book, I'd suggest going to the local Kinokuniya book store in your area. Their web site (http://www.kinokuniya.com/) has a listing of their US stores...it may be possible to order over the phone. Although I don't know if he carries it, the folks at Hobbylink Japan (http://www.hlj.com/), might be able to come up with a copy. The Shosen Grande in the Kanda section of Tokyo seemed to have a few left....

Here's a few scans to whet your appetites...

cover of the book
http://design.archdev.com/yamato/stmech.jpg

the future ent. D
http://design.archdev.com/yamato/futentd1.jpg

new orleans class (regretably the only picture)
http://design.archdev.com/yamato/neworlns1.jpg

borg ship
http://design.archdev.com/yamato/borg1.jpg

feregi marauder-note the extended pod, neck and claws.
http://design.archdev.com/yamato/dkora1.jpg

The book is the sort of reference work that modelers like myself have been wanting for years. Some things are covered more than others (Voyager gets lots of detail shots, while the 1701-B only gets a few of the publicity stills), and I'd like to have more alien stuff, but these are minor complaints. Try to get this book. Enjoy the scans.

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Posted by Alexander Delarge on :

oops. try these...

http://design.archdev.com/yamato/misc/stmech.jpg
http://design.archdev.com/yamato/misc/futentd1.jpg
http://design.archdev.com/yamato/misc/neworlns1.jpg
http://design.archdev.com/yamato/misc/borg1.jpg
http://design.archdev.com/yamato/misc/dkora1.jpg

I am a very bad man

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Posted by Pedro on :

Wheee! I knew you'd show up with these pics! Thank you, thank you!! May I ask a small favor of you...I must have this book, can you post as much info about the publisher, etc... as you can (ISBN number would be ideal). I'm on a quest here....

Posted by Alexander Delarge on :

uhhh...I think that all the info you need is on the first post...

published by Bunkasha, sells for 2300 yen
(about $19.50), and its isbn # is ISBN4-8211-0588-8.

Good luck on the quest....

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

*slobbers at NO picture....*

Pylons do attach at the neck.. its finally confirmed...

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Posted by RW (Member # 27) on :

This book is a F-ing revolution o_O

*changes underpants*

Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :

Do they list UK suppliers at this site? I know a Japanese bookshop in London. . .

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Are there pix of any other obscure models like the NO? Maybe some of the other TBoBW ships? Or the STII and Excelsior study models?

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Posted by Pedro on :

Doh! I got so excited I failed to read the whole message.
*hangs head in shame*

I'm in the process of trying some import stores in Seattle to try to find it, and will post any info I find her. Thanks again, Alexander!

Posted by Alexander Delarge on :

Pedro- there is a Kinokuniya bookstore in Seattle, and there is a SLIGHT chance that the book may even be in the store. Case in point- in Japan I was looking for toys from the new Gamera movie. I was unable to find them there, but they turned up at the local Japanese grocery store. I've had good luck ordering from the local Kinokuniya in the past...things usually arrive in two weeks (being on the west coast helps), and they don't mark things up TOO horribly.

As for sources in London, I have no idea. Kinokuniya does'nt appear to have any UK outlets, but there must be other ways. As a last resort, you could try calling Kinokuniya---I've done this, and it worked.

And as far as other obscure ships go, the NO is about as weird as it gets. I'll put together a more complete rundown of the book tonite and post it tomorrow (perhaps with a few more scans).

Why could'nt any US publishers put out a book like this?

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Posted by Pedro on :

Wheee! I managed to get the book on order from Kinokuniya in Seattle, though they say it will take two months to get it. I'll scan the whole thing for my site

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Just one extremely stupid question.. is this book written in english?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

This isn't entirely about this book, but I have a question for you, Pedro. Several years ago, I was wandering around Pike Place when I came across this small sci-fi hobby sort of shop. They had several rare Trek publications, but I sadly had no money to buy any. In more recent times I've gone back looking for the place, but I can never seem to find it. I'm not sure if it's closed, or if my memory is just really bad. I always seem to wind up in some dark alley.

I realize you don't live all that close to Seattle (Closer then me, though.), but I'm hoping you might be aware of the shop I'm talking about.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Alexander: With your permission, I'd like to use that picture of the Borg vessel in a site detailing Borg tech.

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Posted by CaptSershek on :

The book's pictures look good. I am impressed with the detail. I also like on the NO class seeing the underside and them bothering to put a registry on the underside of the primary hull. I will eventually get this myself.

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

...where no man has gone before.

I'm excited to see more scans. How many pages and how many images are in the book?

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Posted by Alexander Delarge on :

Here's some more information on the STAR TREK MECHANICS book:

Constitution class: about 70 photos, half being frame enlarhements from TOS, the rest photos of Greg Jein's miniature from the DS9 episode; theese miniature photos are new to me.

Constitution Mk II: 16 photos, mostly shots we've all seen before.

Enterprise B: 3 photos, all seen before

Enterprise C: 18 photos, almost all new shots of the "C" mini (with a few Zhukov pics)

Enterpise D: 25 photos; both the 6' and 4' versions, plus some on constructing the 6' model. Mostly new.

Enterprise D (3-engined): 13 photos, mostly new, with some great detail shots of the added details.

Enterprise E: 35 photos, almost all new. Detail shots are sometimes washed out by the camera's flash.

The Phoenix: 3 shots, all the same one from before.

Voyager: 43 shots, almost all new- excellent detail shots (although shot in room light with daylight film, so they are a bit on the yellow side).

Reliant/Saratoga: 35 photos, almost all new. Again, great detail shots of things like weapons pod and the Saratoga's side-mounted cannons/sensors.

Saratoga escape pod: 3 photos, including one of the mold it was cast from.

New Orleans: 1 photo, hanging in someone's office....

Sydney: 1 photo; I think we've seen this before.

Excelsior: 7 photos; 4 are new to me.

Nebula: 10 photos, 9 are new.

Pasteur: 5 photos, a few new ones.

Defiant: 13 photos. Mostly new. Nice detail shots.

Botany Bay: a frame enlargement and 2 photos of a model built by Greg Jein for Sisco's office.

Stargazer: 1 photo of the model seen in Picard's ready room.

There's a decent section on shuttles and the runabout.

Space station k-7: 11 photos; 9 are of the model built for the DS9 episode.

Deep Space Nine: 8 photos, 6 are miniature shots.

Surak shuttle: 5 shots, mostly new

Klingon D7: 11 shots, 8 are new ones of (I believe) the actual miniature.

K'T'inga: 8 shots, all from the ST:TMP paint scheme. We've seen them before, but not presented as nicely.

Romulan BOP: 2 shots, both frame enlargements.

Klingon BOP: 10 shots, mostly new, with a few featuring extended landing gear.

Vorcha: 8 photos, mostly new.

Negh'Var: 7 photos, mostly new.

D'deridex: 7 photos, a few new ones.

Rom Scout/science vessel: 7 photos; scout is in 2 frame enlargements, science vessel is nicely covered in shots of the mini in it's box.

Borg Cube/sphere: 6 photos. same old stuff.

Borg ship: The weird one from "Descent". 8 photos, mostly new.

Galor: 10 photos, mostly new.

D'kora: 3 shots, 2 are new.

Jem'hadar bug: 4 shots, 3 new.

Maquis ship: 4 shots, mostly new.

kazon ships; 3 shots, same old.

All text is in Japanese, with a few names (Like USS Enterprise) in English. About 250 pages.

Most of the photos in the book are of the actual studio miniatures, so CG ships like the FC ones don't appear at all (well, there's one lousy frame enlargement from the battle). Perhaps there will be a second volume. Note that this book is the Star Trek Official guide 4. I have no idea what is in 1-3, though I suspect it to be the usual cast photos and such.

Sol System: use whatever you like.

here's more scans:

one of the drones the D shot down in "Conundrum":
http://design.archdev.com/yamato/misc/drone.jpg

Enterprise C:
http://design.archdev.com/yamato/misc/entc1.jpg

Jem'hadar bug:
http://design.archdev.com/yamato/misc/jembug1.jpg

Romulan Science Vessel (note the grey painted areas):
http://design.archdev.com/yamato/misc/romsci1.jpg

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Cool, thanks.

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They Might Be Giants

Posted by RW (Member # 27) on :

Oooh, that's great.

Posted by Lindsly on :

Alexander DeLarge: When you say model in Captain's Picard ready room-are you referring to the movies or the series? The model in the series was of an unnamed Constellation Class ship with the registry NCC-7100. Reference: "Who Watches the Watchers?", Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion. Next, on the Nebula Class photos, are there photos of ships we haven't seen mentioned either visually or by audio transmission?

Posted by Alexander Delarge on :

Lindsly:
I believe that the Constellation photo was from the series. It's painted a yellowish color. The Nebula featured is the Farragut, so new new ships here.

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Posted by Pedro on :

Yes, Sol, believe it or not, I know which store your talking about. I first found it about 3 years ago, and there was a bunch of cool Trek stuff (specifically, I remember seeing some cool spacedock blueprints). The last time I went (6 months ago, maybe?) there was not much in the way of rare Trek stuff, though the had alot of cool Star Wars toys and such.

The store is in the Pike's Place Market right by the water on 1st and Pike or something (the place where they throw the fish), I'll see if I can find the name for you...

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Too cool! I am in your debt. Of course, I seem to be in the debt of quite a few people these days.

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They Might Be Giants

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Indeed you are, Sol...

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Yes, Sol. And, if you aren't careful, you'll soon be talking to Tony and Guido and their friend, Mr. Lead Pipe... *LOL*

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

The drone that the E-D shot down!

this looks like a miranda weapons pod - with other pods attached - this also made a breif appearance as that getaway ship in "Starship Mine"

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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :

Initially the model in Picard's ready room was of a Constitution, which thay had at one time planned to the Stargazer to be. . . then they developed the new class, called it Constellation because it was easily dubbed over existing dialogue, and put a version of the model in the ready room.

I keep meaning to swing by that bookshop I mentioned to have a look. . . no time right now though.

Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

Wasn't the yellow model seen in the ready room in an episode prior to "The Battle"

Posted by Pedro on :

Picard's ready room model has always been the Constellation, but there was one episode (I forget which one), in which they replaced it with a silver Constitution because Greg Jein had the model as a reference for building the big one.

Posted by RW (Member # 27) on :

Which was indeed The Battle as Bernd said.

Posted by Jim Phelps (Member # 102) on :

Finally we get to see a "SW to Indy Jones" type book on Star Trek. I guess the reason it didn't show up in the US is because Simon and Schuster carry the license for ST reference books, and if they don't think it's worthwhile, it doesn't show up. Besides, Rick was talking about legal issues inherent to releasing actual model photos to the public, though I'm not quite certain about these.

Alexander: I'd very much appreciate it if you could scan in the Defiant pictures for me. If there's a nice, clear head-on view of the Defiant bottom, that would be great.

Thanks,
Boris

Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on :

A-HAAA!!!
New Orleans Up Close & Personal!

More scans please! It's the only way in hell I'll ever get to see them!

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Posted by Alexander Delarge on :

ok. Here are the Defiant scans. I've put them on 2 large jpegs; this covers all the Defiant material in the book (well, I did'nt scan the one shot that we've seen a million times). Enjoy.

http://design.archdev.com/yamato/misc/defiant01.jpghttp://design.archdev.com/yamato/misc/defiant02.jpg

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

Wow. The first realistic pictures of the Defiant (without any VFX lighting).

Posted by Pedro on :

Many thanks again!

*rubs hands together in anticipation of the arrival of his copy*

Posted by NeghVar (Member # 62) on :

I just wanted to take the time to thank Alexander Delarge for picking me up a copy while in Japan. Got it just the other day...let me tell you, it is HOT!!!

There are some damn good picks of the Ambassador in this book, as well as, some really good Klingon D-7 and K't'inga pics!!!

This making the rest of you jealous?

Good! 8^P
NeghVar

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[This message was edited by NeghVar on April 08, 1999.]