How many people accepts this as the Class Starship
God damn it suck's
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Posted by The Vorlon (Member # 52) on :
You said Niagara, but the Title says Challenger... Typo?
That ship is commonly accepted as the Challenger, yes.
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That is 'sort of' the Challenger. From what I know, the nacelles are actually from the Constitution class, made very short and with the nacelles on normally. I don't think there were any Constellation class model kits around during BoBW for them to make the nacelles like that
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Posted by Lindsly on :
Yes.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, unless Okuda changes his mind and decides that the Rig., Fre., and Chal. did indeed have Const'n parts, I don't accept it.
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
TSN, I'm elevating you to "moron" status. Okuda said that he didn't remember any Constitution parts being used. That doesn't mean he said they weren't used. It means HE DOESN'T REMEMBER.
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Posted by CaptSershek on :
I am of the same opinion as most of the people here, if I interpret it correctly. I accept that as the Challenger Class, not the prettiest ship in the fleet, but based on the websites I've seen and the discussions so far, it seems logical.
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Posted by Captain Stark (Member # 70) on :
Galen. We need to get together with your scanner (since I don't have one) I have the Comic Book that this class is suppost to be in. Several nice views in fact.
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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
There is a screenshot of Wolf 359 (TV version) with a Constitution hull clearly visible. It could be the Challenger as depicted above, but there is no clear evidence. I will only accept it if there is a studio model image looking like this or a drawing definitely based on it (Fact Files, Encyclopedia update). Anyway, the similarity to the Constitution class does not agree with the 57xxx registries at all.
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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
It wouldn't be too hard to construct an explanation for that, though. For instance, that registry would place it right around the Cardassian War. Perhaps a few Challangers were commissioned, or possibly even recommissioned, to serve some specific purpose that other ships were unavailable for.
"We need some ships for a recon mission near Tholian space."
"Sir, most of those vessels have been diverted to the Cardassian border."
"I don't have time to wait around...*points towards a few Challangers floating in a repo yard* Are those spaceworthy? Slap some new registries on them and send them out."
Well, maybe not that exact scenerio, but you get the idea.
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Why would they have put new registries on them? It would be faster to just leave the old ones there. And they wouldn't even have a reason to change them in the first place.
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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I should have been a bit more specific. I meant ships that had been decommissioned, meaning their names were now available for other ships. You could keep the old registry, of course, but that goes against tradition.
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Posted by Federation Shipmaster (Member # 15) on :
It showed up in some comic book. I remember drawing it in my little book of notes.
Posted by Galen (Member # 72) on :
Okay Captain Stark, next time you are in town, bring the comic book with you.
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Posted by Federation Shipmaster (Member # 15) on :
I think it was TNG, with Riker as a cadet on some mission that went wrong.
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