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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Shadow</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,17,11,13,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 17, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:13 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> How many torpedo launchers has the Sovereign-class been observed to have? The Enterprise has the one up front, under the saucer...are there any others? Did we see an aft launcher in Insurrection?<P>------------------<BR> <A HREF="http://frankg.dgne.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://frankg.dgne.com/</A> <br>Grimlock: "<i>You</i> are creator?"<br>Primacron: "Unfortunately...yes." <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Tahna Los</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,17,12,30,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 17, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:30 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> According to the specs I saw somewhere, there is a second forward torpedo launcher on the bottom of the ship, under the Deflector Dish section. I think there are aft torpedo launchers, but I don't remember where they are located, the last time I saw those specs was long ago.<P>------------------<BR>I can resist anything.......<br>Except Temptation<p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The First One</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,17,12,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 17, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:45 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> There was an aft launcher used in "Insurrection," which fired two quantum torpedoes. Unfortunately the view was back along the ship from ahead, thereby hiding their origin point. But it almost looked - since they were travelling upwards - like the tube might be located on the upper secondary hull somewhere, maybe on the rear of the saucer itself. . . <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Shipbuilder</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,17,13,35,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 17, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:35 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The Sov has the main launcher under the saucer, 2 launchers underside, near the deflector dish, and 2 more launchers mounted on the underside near the "cut out". These are clearly shown on the model, but whether we have seen them actually firing, I'm not sure. There was a discussion a while back about the aft firing torpedo seen in Insurrection, and someone said that the arc was wrong if it had been fired from the ventral aft launcher.....I'm not sure if that's true or not. But definately, the Sov has at least 5 launchers, 1 single and 2 pairs. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Montgomery</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,17,15,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 17, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:53 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I concur with Shipbuilder. <IMG SRC="http://solareclipse.net/Forums/smile.gif"><p>As I recall, there was some concern on the boards that the Captain's Yacht had displaced the saucer launcher. Thankfully the shown film allowed for the launcher to remain where it was, just above the Yacht's bow.<p>1+2+2<br><P>------------------<BR>"...And Monty fans may like to know about these special books, available from all good bookshops..." <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Federation Shipmaster</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,18,18,12,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 18, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:12 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Looking at my model, one on top of the yadcht, a twin pair bewtween the deflector and the phaser strip, and another pair where the tractor beam was on the D. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sidewinder</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,18,18,17,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 18, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:17 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> However, in Insurrection, it appeared the forward quantum launcher also doubled as the captain's yacht... <P>------------------<BR>There's a lady who knows, all that glitters is gold...and she's buying a stairway to heaven.<p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Warped1701</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,19,0,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 19, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:52 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Actually, the yacht was docked directly below the torpedo launcher. It was at an angle, so the launcher would fire properly. <P>------------------<BR><i>Risk is our business! That's what this starship is all about....that's why we're aboard her!"</i><br> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Bernd</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,19,7,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 19, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:21 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Are there any screenshots available of the yacht being released?<P>------------------<BR>Brain. Brain. What is brain? (Kara the Eymorg, "Spock's Brain")<br> <A HREF="http://www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/" TARGET=_blank>www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/</A> <br> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The First One</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,19,9,0,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 19, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:00 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Hardly, unless someone has a pirate video copy. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Vorlon</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,19,17,47,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 19, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:47 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> *coughs*<p> <A HREF="http://jupiter.dgne.com/etc/yatch1.jpg" TARGET=_blank>http://jupiter.dgne.com/etc/yatch1.jpg</A> <P>------------------<BR>Lyta Vorlon: "Our great mistake. Our failing. And now your failing. The error is compounded."<br>Delenn: "What mistake?"<br>Lyta Vorlon: "The first one, the one from which all mistakes proceed: The error of Pride..."<p>-- Kalesh Naranek, Last of the Vorlon<br> <A HREF="http://www.orc.ca/~jheinbuc/" TARGET=_blank>www.orc.ca/~jheinbuc/</A> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Federation Shipmaster</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,19,19,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 19, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:50 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I have some sketches of this, which may be scanned in. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Shadow</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,19,20,10,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 19, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:10 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> (Hay, Adam, how do you spell "yacht"? <IMG SRC="http://solareclipse.net/Forums/smile.gif"> )<P>------------------<BR> <A HREF="http://frankg.dgne.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://frankg.dgne.com/</A> <br>Dead End: "If we surrender our energon we're doomed."<br>Breakdown: "And if we don't we're doomed too."<br>Dead End: "Face it. We're doomed." <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Vorlon</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,19,21,6,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 19, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:06 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> *I* didn't name the file, that's how it was when I found it. I uploaded it with its original name. =P<P>------------------<BR>Lyta Vorlon: "Our great mistake. Our failing. And now your failing. The error is compounded."<br>Delenn: "What mistake?"<br>Lyta Vorlon: "The first one, the one from which all mistakes proceed: The error of Pride..."<p>-- Kalesh Naranek, Last of the Vorlon<br> <A HREF="http://www.orc.ca/~jheinbuc/" TARGET=_blank>www.orc.ca/~jheinbuc/</A> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Shadow</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,19,21,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 19, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:42 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well, you could've changed it. <IMG SRC="http://solareclipse.net/Forums/smile.gif"><P>------------------<BR> <A HREF="http://frankg.dgne.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://frankg.dgne.com/</A> <br>Dead End: "If we surrender our energon we're doomed."<br>Breakdown: "And if we don't we're doomed too."<br>Dead End: "Face it. We're doomed." <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Vorlon</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,19,21,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 19, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:44 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Honestly, I don't have the time to go around checking and changing all file names for spelling mistakes... =P<p>The link works, that's all that matters.<P>------------------<BR>Lyta Vorlon: "Our great mistake. Our failing. And now your failing. The error is compounded."<br>Delenn: "What mistake?"<br>Lyta Vorlon: "The first one, the one from which all mistakes proceed: The error of Pride..."<p>-- Kalesh Naranek, Last of the Vorlon<br> <A HREF="http://www.orc.ca/~jheinbuc/" TARGET=_blank>www.orc.ca/~jheinbuc/</A> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Excalibur</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,21,18,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 21, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:44 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> From all of the schematics, models, screenshots and filming model pics i have seen, the sovereign has 1 torpedo launcher just above the captain's yacht (John Eaves had to recess the windov of it so that it would fit behind the torp launcher), two underneath the main nav. deflector with a tractor beam, and two at the lower half of the aft cutout with another tractor.<br><p><br>So, 1+2+2<P>------------------<BR>"Walk softly and carry a big stick"-Theodore Roosevelt <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Altair</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,22,4,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 22, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:31 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> *cough cough*<p>(all pictures will appear in a new window)<br><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/az/Altair3d/images/y1.jpg" target="_blank">pic 1</a><br><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/az/Altair3d/images/y2.jpg" target="_blank">pic 2</a><br><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/az/Altair3d/images/y3.jpg" target="_blank">pic 3</a><br><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/az/Altair3d/images/y4.jpg" target="_blank">pic 4</a><br><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/az/Altair3d/images/y5.jpg" target="_blank">pic 5</a><br><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/az/Altair3d/images/y6.jpg" target="_blank">pic 6</a><br><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/az/Altair3d/images/y7.jpg" target="_blank">pic 7</a><br><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/az/Altair3d/images/y8.jpg" target="_blank">pic 8</a><p>You might want to look at these too:<br><img src="http://www.angelfire.com/az/Altair3d/images/fire1.jpg"><br><img src="http://www.angelfire.com/az/Altair3d/images/fire2.jpg"><br><img src="http://www.angelfire.com/az/Altair3d/images/fire3.jpg"><br>It seems there is a torpedo launcher ABOVE the main shuttlebay.<br><P>------------------<BR>"I laugh at the face of danger,<br>then I run away and hide."<p>- Xander from 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer'<p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The359</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,22,17,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 22, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:46 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> OK, this is f*cked up. But I think I know where the FX guys made a mistake. Above the shuttlebay, ahead of the shuttlebay control room, there are 3 airlocks. One to starboard, one to port, one to the stern. It appears the FX guys mistook this stern airlock for a torpedo launcher. That, or they stuck a launcher inside the shuttlebay control room (which would make them look even stupider)<P>------------------<BR>"The one, the only, THE 359!"<p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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