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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Baloo</b> <br /><small>Member # 5</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,10,7,21,30,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 07, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:30 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Not speculation: <A HREF="http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mantimatter.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mantimatter.html</A> <P>I was going to post this in the OL when I realized it was of greater interest to the technoids among us than the rank-and-file members.<P>There isn't a whole lot in the article about Star Trek, but at least now you know some of the history behind the Federation's favorite fuel stuff.<P>--Baloo<P>------------------<BR>Jesus saves.<BR>Moses invests.<BR>--Bumper Sticker<BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8641/" TARGET=_blank>www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8641/</A><P><BR>P.S.: It just occurred to me. Is there an antiphoton? Would we call it a Darkon? [Pun intended <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/wink.gif">]<p>[This message has been edited by Baloo (edited November 07, 1999).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Omega</b> <br /><small>Member # 91</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,10,7,23,37,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 07, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:37 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I was under the impression that a photon was its own antiparticle...<P>------------------<BR>Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons; for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Baloo</b> <br /><small>Member # 5</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,10,8,0,18,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 08, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:18 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I was wondering the same thing, but I don't think photons anihilate each other when they collide, so I was wondering.<P>Any physics majors around who can clear this up?<P>--Baloo<P>------------------<BR>Jesus saves.<BR>Moses invests.<BR>--Bumper Sticker<BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8641/" TARGET=_blank>www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8641/</A><P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,10,8,0,22,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 08, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:22 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yes, there is such a thing as an antiphoton.<P>BTW, apparently the term "penguin decay" stems from a darts game in which the loser had to use the word "penguin" in a research paper...<P>------------------<BR>Rimmer: "Holly, put a trace on Paranoia."<BR>Holly: "What's a trace?"<BR>Rimmer: "It's space jargon. It means 'find him'."<BR>Holly: "No it doesn't. You just made it up to sound cool."<BR>-<i>Red Dwarf</i>: "Confidence & Paranoia"<p>[This message has been edited by TSN (edited November 08, 1999).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Michael Dracon</b> <br /><small>Member # 4</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,10,8,10,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 08, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:31 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> So, what is the explosive yield of one proton/anti-proton annihilation? Can it blow up a car, a building, or is it not even capable of denting a cartboard box??<P>------------------<BR>Presenting the NX-59650. It can slice! It can dice! It can seperate into THREE parts!!<BR>Now available with THREE FULL warpcores!<BR>But wait! Buy now, and get a free number upgrade to NX-74913!<P>To order, call: 0800-PROMETHEUS<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Identity Crisis</b> <br /><small>Member # 67</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,10,8,11,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 08, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:27 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The total energy available when a proton/anti-proton pair anhilate is given by<BR>T1 + M1 + T2 + M2 where T1 and T2 are the kinetic enrgies of the two particles and M1 and M2 are the mass energies of the two particles.<P>As the kinetic energies will vary depending on the situation we'll look at M1 + M2 in order to find a MINIMUM energy for the anhilation.<P>M1 = M2 = m * c^2 where m is the mass of the proton/anti-proton and c is the speed of light.<P>m = 1.672 x 10^-27 kg<BR>c = 3 x 10^8 m/s^2<P>So minimum energy is 2 * 1.672 x 10^-27 * 3 x 10-8 * 3x 10-8 = 3.0096 x 10^-10 Joules <BR>Or in other words: bugger all. You need a LOT of protons and anti-protons to generate useful amounts of energy.<P>Now that answers the question you asked. The rest of this thread seemed to be about photons and anti-photons (no such thing, photons, like all the mediating bosons are their own anti-particle. Trek frequently gets this wrong: anti-gravitons for example.)<P><BR><P>------------------<BR>-->Identity Crisis<--<p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Bernd</b> <br /><small>Member # 6</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,10,11,7,41,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:41 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Unfortunately I can't afford my own particle accelerator, and my survival time in Miami wouldn't be that long either. Anyway, a nice article that sums it up pretty well.<P>Baloo, Omega: There is nothing such as an antiphoton mentioned in the article, so I wonder what's the matter (unavoidable pun) with it.<P>------------------<BR>"When diplomacy fails, there's only one alternative - violence. Force must be applied without apology. It's the Starfleet way."<BR>A somewhat different Janeway in VOY: "Living Witness"<BR><A HREF="http://www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/" TARGET=_blank>Ex Astris Scientia</A> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The First One</b> <br /><small>Member # 35</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,10,11,9,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:08 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> *drives by Bernd* <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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