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Posted by Striker on :

I dunno if this topic has been done to death or not, seeing as how I'm fairly new here, but what are everyone's favorite classes? Just curious. Mine are the Defiant(of course) and the Akira. Mainly because I like ships of war for whatever reasons. Plus the designs are rather unique in my opinion. I'm not a huge fan of the soverign though, I don't really know why either.

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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :

I used to like the Akira most of all, but I've kinda gotten bored with it. I do like the Steamrunner, and the Soyuz has grown on me since I started drawing a whole new schematic from scratch.

Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

Galaxy. I like the living room atmosphere and it's amazing how such a massive ship can look so elegant.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

The Akira is the best, followed by the Prometheus and the Ent-E. The Miranda is the best of the older ships.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

I like the Chimera, since we've never seen it.

Actually, my favorite is probably the Miranda. It has one coherent hull, actual weapons structures, a compact shape, etc. And it doesn't look like a jellyfish.

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Constitution Refit... hands down.

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Posted by TerraZ on :

The Akira comes first (man, almost everyone seems to love that ship...) because of its elegance despite its radical departure from standard Starfleet design...

I also like the Sabre a lot since it kinda looks like a Manta ray (and I'd love to see a more detailed version in the next movie but I'm sure it won't happen).

And finally the Excelsior and its refit which have been my favourites for a long time. From the moment I saw it in ST3:TSFS I began to like the Constitution a lot less.

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

*considers to invite Frank to join the ASDB, but once he sees our planned jellyfish design he will be deterred*

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Gotta go with Defiant, Akira, and Steamrunner in no particular order. I could give you a "like/ dislike" rundown on every ship we've seen (as I'm sure very many members could :-) ) but that would take alot of room.

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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on :

I've always liked the pre-refit Enterprise (NCC-1701 -- no prefix).

Prior to Star Trek, all "spaceships" in science fiction were either rocket ships or glorified frisbees. The TOS Enterprise was a significant departure from either concept. Just looking at it you realized this was a different kind of ship. It wasn't a rocket or a UFO, but something brand new.

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Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :

The Enterptrise was a glorified frisbee attached to a flashlight attahed to two rocket ships.

Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

Intrepid-class.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Bradbury class. A slightly bigger intrepid with the nacelles always in the folded-up position.
Upgraded like the Lakota with all the tactical stuff of 2375-76!

Strictly canon, you say? Well, then I'd have to go with the Excelsior. There's something about it that makes me think "Rolls Royce".

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Excelsior, the NX- or NCC-2000 versions, not the E-B version. Something about its sleekness (as compared to the ships before it) but its retention of the "old" look.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Sabres and Intrepids, then Mirandas.

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Posted by Sir Camelot on :

top 5

Enterprise -A a classic,

Enterprise - D very graceful

Akira the best mix of New looks and originality

Defiant, one tough little ship

Miranda, best of E-A but with better lines

bottom 5

1. all kitbashed ships (ie shelly, wolf 359 ships)
2. Norway, flying Iron

3. Sabre, why, we have the Defiant

4. Uss Stargazer, an old dirty looking ship

5. Uss Pasteur,

toss up voyager (needs some different warp engines)
E-E (too Retro )

Posted by Black Knight (Member # 134) on :

Intrepid
Prometheus
Akira
Sovereign
Excelsior
Centaur
Defiant
Nova

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

OK I said Connire Refit - hands down I think I'll add to the list

2. Ambassador
3. Galaxy
4. Danube - I would LOVE one of these for my self

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Posted by KXZ (Member # 119) on :

Galaxy, Intrepid, Defiant, Soverign, Danube, Akira...... actually, there isn't one that I don't at least like somewhat.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

I like the New Orleans Class, and the Constitution-Refit. Oh, and the Gunstar, from 'The Last Starfighter'.

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Posted by bonecrusher on :

Prometheus here because it could kick the Soverigen Class's but!

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

I really like the Galaxy-class. It is the most beautiful, unique, yet practical Enterprise design.

I've never been very impressed with the Intrepid-class. The tiny nacelles and forward facing pylons make it look unbalanced and deformed.

Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder (especially with something like starships).

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Posted by bonecrusher on :

The D was too round looking and it made me sick!

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

It's kinda funny how people only like some classes because they 'Could kick the shit out of whatever'. It seems to me that if TPTB put a super-powered-pulse phase-cloak-that-fires-quantum-cobalt-transistor-mines-while-cloaked on a shuttlecraft, these people would be 'Oh hell yeah, I love that Type-9XXX Shuttle, it could kick some ass!'

I think actual appearance should factor in some, too.

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Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :

The workbee would have to be my favorite

Uh, and second would be the Intrepid class.

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

1) Nebula

2) Akira

3) New Orleans

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Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

My favorites are the TOS Enterprise and the Refit Enterprise. They are the alpha and the omega of Federation ship design. The original Excelsior is a close second (The refit was ill-advised). The Galaxy is third. All these ships are sleek and elegant.

I don't like the more recent ships with no necks as much. Shock of the new, I guess. Maybe I'll get used to them eventually. I do like the new CGI warships from FC and the Defiant since they represent a fresh way of thinking about Fed designs. However, the Intrepid looks a bit squat and dwarfish to me since it tries (unsuccessfully, I think) to fuse the original "neck and nacelles" style with a new blunter style.

I also like the USS Sulaco, the Orion Spaceplane, the Spinner (Blade Runner), Tie Fighters, and Starfuries (B5). Yes the Gunstar is pretty cool.

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Posted by Lt. Tom on :

You asked for it!

Stuff I like:
-Excelsior-class has been my favorite since I first laid eyes on Excel herself in STVI. She's graceful and fluid but has a definite strength. For the record, I'm in the anti-refit camp.
-Akira-class is by far my pick of the FC ships. Probably the most elegant "warship" I've ever seen.
-Sovereign-class. 'Cause I like it, that's why.
-Galaxy-class will always have a place in my top ten, because I got hooked on Trek watching TNG. For right now, it's here because it managed to be elegant even though it was so damned big.
-Prometheus edges out Nova class by a hair. I'm not wild about it's "three, three, THREE ships in one!" aspect, but put together it's the only quad-nacelled ship I like.

Stuff I don't like:
-Sabre-class looks like it's pointing the wrong way, which is a neat trick to pull off when I know that Fed ships have their nacelles aft.
-Oberth-class may be functional, but it's just not very aesthetic.
-Constellation-class. Ick and double ick. No, better make that quadruple.
-Deep Space Nine Technical Manual. ESPECIALLY the Excel kitbashes! There oughtta be a law!
-Intrepid-class. Everything the Sov does right, it does wrong.

In general:
I tend to go for designs which are unconventional in one way or another but are still very sleek, anything that conveys raw power channeled into something stately and graceful. I detest kitbashes (Challenger), but I don't have anything against a decent rearrangement of parts (Miranda).

Posted by Striker on :

Lots o good federation ships out there, but doesn't anyone like some alien ships more than the fed. ships? I personally don't, but the Bird of Preys are pretty damn cool.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

The Dominion Battle Cruiser (not that ultra large one, although it ranks high on the list) is by far the best Star Trek ship design. The Negh'Var (Klingon Flagship) is a very cool one too.

Other top 10 best non-federation ships:
- Cardasian Keldon Class
- Romulan Warbird
- Those 2 races helping Voyager to defeat the Krenim Timeship
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Forgot one: Species 8472 ships

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

The Mawasi and the Nihydran ships were nice, definitely.

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

Yeah, I'd have to say the Warbird is my favourite alien ship. The Negh'var (Sternbach's best design?) and Son'a battleship are pretty cool, too.

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

I like the Vor'cha better than the Negh'var. It's a simpler looking, more straight-forward design. Not that the Negh'Var isn't cool too.

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

That's my problem with the Vor'cha - it's just too plain. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

BTW, does anyone know where the Vor'cha fwd torpedo launcher is? Does it even have one?

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

That's a problem with many ships - there just isn't a surface feature anywhere that would correspond to a torp tube. Which is why my favorite is the New Orleans... It isn't difficult to tell where her big guns are supposed to be

Miranda is a close second, for similar reasons.

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Posted by Alshrim Dax (Member # 258) on :

I love the Sovereign Class ships... First of all.. It's newer !! But talk about War Machine... Quantum Torps ... ahhhh.... I love it.

The Nebula Class ships are nice esthetically.. I like those as well.

For Klingons: Vor'Cha class.. Love 'em!!

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Is the Vor'cha's forward torp launcher not in the notch in the nose?

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Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

Here�s an unscientific tally of the votes. I didn�t weight the votes for first, second, and third like they do for baseball MVP, since some people listed favorite ships in no particular order. I just counted how many times someone mentioned the ship favorably.

1. Akira: 10 votes
2. Galaxy: 7 votes
3. Excelsior: 6 votes
4. Defiant, Intrepid, Sovereign: 5 votes
5. Prometheus, Miranda, EntA: 4 votes
6. Steamrunner, Sabre, Ent0, Nova, Danube, New Orleans, Nebula: 2 votes
7. Soyuz, Centaur, Ambassador, Workbee (!): 1 vote

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

TSN: That's the main disruptor cannon. We've seen that fire in a multitude of episodes. I don't remember ever seeing a Vor'cha fire a torpedo, though. Can anyone correct me on this (I hope so)?

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Posted by Brown_supahero (Member # 83) on :

DID SOMEONE SAY BRADBURY? Got pics? I would like to see them.

I enjoy the T'pau "Apollo" Class. Simple yet serves a purpose.

Hey do you think the Defiant front looks like the Ark from Transformers or vice versa? Have we seen a similar fronts on other ships too?

Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :

Well, the alien ship in the South Park episode "Cartman Gets An Anal Probe" is DEFINITELY the Defiant seen from the front. . . 8)

Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

As the DS9TM notes, the Defiant is horribly similar in appearance to the Cardassian Hideki-class. Funnily enough, they were both designed by Martin.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Brown: Well, as the Brsdbury has never been seen, no, no-one has pictures.

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Posted by Wes (Member # 212) on :

Akira-Class is my definite #1, Sovereign-Class, and the "Venture"-Class Scout seen in Insurrection.

Of the older ones, the Miranda and the Excelsior Refit are my favorites.

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Posted by Laz1701 on :

No, the Bradbury hasn't been seen officially, but I think he's referring to this non-canon design, which I created about five years ago.

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

For Alien ships - I have to go the Galor Class, the Vorcha Class and the Bajoran 'raider' - the one Kira commands in "Image in the Sand"

Stuff it put the Rommie Warbird in there too...

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