I just heard from a friend who read somewhere that "Way of the Warrior" used a number of Ertl Klingon ships in the Klingon armada that "visited" Deep Space Nine. The models were then blown up by the pyrotechnic people for the battle scene. Is this true or can anyone find out if it is?
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
I don't know if it is true, but it sure can be true. They have done something like that before.
In fact: If you listen carefully to the BoP blown up in ST6 you can hear that a small piece of debris hits a glass wall. You can even see that piece change cource (slightly right of the middle, after it hits the glass it goes from bottom to top).
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
Ertl is a company that makes Star Trek ship models (among others)
What I explained is that they do use such models in order to blow them up (the debris part is just some extra stuff). But I don't know if (Ertl) models were used in Way of the Warrior.
At least one K't'inga cruiser was rather graphically shown being blown to bits in the episode, instead of just being hidden in a stock footage fireball. Since it's highly unlikely that the studio would really have blown up their one and only model of the K't'inga, and at this early stage the explosion probably wasn't created with computers alone, it's rather likely that this ship was an ERTL model. Or, more accurately, the VFX people changed the accurate photographic model to an ERTL model at the moment it was supposed to explode, so that they could photograph the bits.
Nowadays, there's no need to use scale models, since CGI explosions are much more impressive (see the end of the original Defiant, or all those spinning-out-of-control Mirandas and Akiras!) and probably much cheaper to do.
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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
In the last clip showing the Negh'Var, before they fire mega-photon's at the station's shield-generators, you can see a Vor'Cha behind it blowing up rather violently. In fact, the whole lower part of the superstructure spins away. Very nice.
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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :
It's possible, though if they did use ERTL models, it didn't detract from the overall battle.
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Posted by kiltedbear (Member # 1138) on :
I was reading an article in Cinefantastique (pardon my spelling) a couple years ago discussing the effects for that episode. Apparently, they wound up buying a�whole horde of the Playmates Vor'Cha class cruisers and Birds of Prey toys for the extra ships in the fight scenes, and I believe they blew up the majority of them, Again, Id have to go back and try to find that article
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(slightly right of the middle, after it hits the glass it goes from bottom to top).