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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on :

I think it's called a Warbird, but I have no real information on it. What weapons does it use. Do they use torpedoes, disruptors, some improved form of the plasma weapon seen in TOS? How many of each? How big is the crew? How fast does it go?

Any more information? I want to add a TNG-era ship to the Romulan Intelligence report and I don't know where to begin.

All responses gratefully appreciated.

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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :

First encountered in 2364. Twice the length of a Galaxy class starship. Utilized an artificial quantum singularity as their equivalent of a warp-drive. Designated by Starfleet as a B-type warbird.

This is from ds9 tech manual:
Production base: Unknown; Romulan star empire Type: Heavy cruiser. Accommodation: 1500 plus officers, crew and troops. Power plant: One artificial singularity-drive warp core feeding two nacelles; two impulse systems. Dimensions: Length - 1.041.65 meters, beam - 772.43 meters, height - 285.47 meters Mass: 4.320.000 metric tonnes Performance: Warp 9.6 (Observed) Armament: Six ship-mounted disruptors; two photon-torpedoe launchers

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

As for how much of that is canon...

The ship does have quantum-singularity engines ("Face of the Enemy"/"Timescape"). It does have at least three disruptor cannon (at the "forehead" and the wings), and six overall sounds quite probable. It does carry photon torpedoes ("The Defector"). It can barely match the speed of a Galaxy ("Tin Man"), at the cost of cloaking efficiency.

As for the dimensions, the ship seems to shrink a lot after its initial appearance in "The Neutral Zone". Perhaps there are two sizes of the vessel, a larger type-A (only seen in "TNZ") and a smaller type-B (later learned to be called D'eridex class by the Romulans)?

I do detest the idea that the ship would be a "heavy cruiser" in anybody's books. The Romulans themselves probably call it a Warbird (as in "Face of the Enemy"), and the Feds would be idiots to equate this vessel with their own, far smaller heavy cruisers (of which the Ambassador class is the only canon example apart from the Constitution class, but for example Akira is called a heavy cruiser in the same DS9 TM).

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

If I had to classify the Warbird, I would call it a battleship rather than a heavy cruiser.

As for the size of the ship, in "TNZ" Data did say the Warbird was "at least twice the length of the Enterprise" or somesuch. Even so, it is true that the ship has at times appeared somewhat smaller. Whether there are two sizes of the same vessel is debatable, though - after all, the ship has always had the same external appearance.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

And in "TotP", when the warbird-wing opened fire, you could see torpedoes AND phaser-streams being fired from the same point in the beak. They've probably got both weapons in the same spot, with maybe 4-5 metres between.

Oh, and they seem to take pride in separating themselves from the mainstream of alpha-quad weaponry by calling their torpedoes "plasma-torpedoes". It must be some sort of variation from the famous plasma-discharge the original BoP used in TOS.
They look really nice, more glowing mint-green than the klingons military-green.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

"Mint green" and "military green"? Is that like when Rimmer repainted Red Dwarf's interior from "ocean grey" to "military grey", or whatever it was? *L*

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