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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

It looks like there is a new Borg cube design, and it's... GREY!
I like it very much, it has a more futuristic look. And it is also clearer that there is top and bottom.

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

It's among the smallest truly cubical Cubes so far. It almost looks as if it was built to be a match to the Voyager...

Don't I even see a hangar door for taking in our favorite starship? I mean the lower part of the side facing the ship in the first pics, between the smooth vertical plates. This could be a dedicated Voyager-hunter, built so that bigger Cubes need not waste their valuable time with such trivial pursuits.

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Look, and compare for yourself. I would agree when you say that the classic Cube in the picture looks somewhat small.

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Posted by Jim Phelps (Member # 102) on :

Is the classic cube the same one used for First Contact, or is it different?

Boris

Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

These are the models used so far (from what I know):

Physical model: DS9, TNG, all episodes, length/width/height: 3km

CGI model: Voyager, size variable (picture above shows a smaller one from 'Scorpion, part 2')

CGI model2: First Contact, Escape-pod version, size: probably meant as 3km.

CGI model3: The new Cube

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

The First Contact cube was actually built as a physical model as seen in the TNG Sketchbook.

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Posted by Jim Phelps (Member # 102) on :

Yes, and the Dark Frontier cube was supposedly 28 cubic kms in volume, which brings it to just about the FC size as quoted in Cinefex - a little over 3km (Cinefex gives a 2-mile figure).

The one from TNG is smaller, around 2km or so. It would be good if we could scale this one precisely once for all times since it doesn't appear more than twice.

Rick Sternbach was talking about describing 5km, 10km and 15km cubes to the writers, crew complements and all. I don't know if these were ever seen onscreen or not.

Boris

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

I stand corrected.

Anyway, I estimate this one to be about 1.2-1.5 km, since there are several clear comparable shots with Voyager.

I also tried to make sence of the new look. The only thing I can think of is that it is the new 'Queen's Yacht'...

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Posted by Jim Phelps (Member # 102) on :

There is also that scoutship from "Hugh", mass 2.5 million metric tons. I don't think that we've actually seen it, though.

Boris

Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Indeed there there is! And whe have not seen it on screen.

To me it becomes clearer now the Borg have made different ships for specific missions. Although I think we need to wait until we have actually seen 'Unimatrix Zero' until we know for sure what the reason is for a new design.

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Posted by Trip Tucker (Member # 297) on :

I posted this comment in the "Voyager" Forum too.
This new "Mini-cube" looks to me like it's been built with armor so it can take more hits and not blow up so easily.
It is probably the Queen's new ship, made just for her to hunt down Voyager. She probably thought "Hey, the diamond was trashed too easy, maybe I'd better switch to the new armored model".

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

I don't like it. It looks like they wanted something different, but they didn't feel like making all the little details of the old cube, so they just made most of it flat and grey...

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

I can't remember where, but I read somewhere that the Ent-D had a mass of 800 000 metric tons. So the Brog scout from the 'hugh' episode would not be very large, as far as Borg vessels go.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I kind of like it, though I despise the idea of it being a "command" ship.

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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :

We did see Hugh�s scout ship though, even if it was crashed on the surface, check out my borg starship page: http://w1.314.telia.com/~u31412332/misc/borg.htm

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I may want to borrow one or two of those shots of the twinkie-esque scout...

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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :

Sol system: You�re referring to my borg scoutsphere I take it? Yes, you may use them. My policy is to post as many starship-pics I can get a hold of, so that other people might enjoy them. I�d like to have some small credit, though...

Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Where did you get that Scoutcube picture?? (the one on the left)

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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :

Someone send it to me, it was a long time ago, but I think the pic is from star trek trading cards game.

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I'm putting together a Borg page as well, which is what I want the pictures for. I have a few that you don't seem to, which I'd be more than willing to share. But I'll need to upload them first.

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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :

Sol system: That would be great. I have been thinking of making a borg page that shows cubes from each and every episode in voyager. Got any ideas and pics for that?

BTW, which episodes have we seen cubes in anyway? Dark frontier, Hope and fear, Scorpion, Collective, Unimatrix zero are the ones I can think of. We didn�t see a cube in Survival instinct did we?

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

No, but we did in 'Unity', Voyager first official Borg episode.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

My pictures are mostly shots of Borg weapons in use, actually, with several screen captures (thanks to Frank) and some large pictures of models. I really should upload them someday soon.

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Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

Re: The EntD weight. I remember seeing a weight for the EntD of 4.93 million tons (in Cinefantastique, I think). I personally like the 800,000 ton figure more, but I think the higher weight is from Rick Sternbach. (What does the DS9 Manual say?). Anyways, this higher weight would make a scout cube with a weight of 2.5 million tons about half the size of the EntD rather than 3 times larger

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Posted by bryce (Member # 42) on :

The old cube looks scarier.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

I agree! When I first saw the new cube I thought it was a 29th century Cube.

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