I read somewhere about a 'Zandura class' which was designed for ST:FC by Alex Jaeger, but it didn't make it onscreen. Supposedly, there must be a design somewhere around. Does somebody have a pic of it, or knows where to find it?
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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :
I don't think there is a zandura class ever mentioned in st:fc. However I could be wrong.
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Yes, that's what I'm saying, it was never mentioned or even seen. The Zandura class was supposed to be part of the battle scenes in ST:FC, but eventually, the VFX dept decided to do not. At least, that's what I was told.
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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
First of all, welcome to Flare!
The TNG movie sketchbook mentions a USS Endeavor that was sketched but never followed up on. No mention of class. I've never heard of a Zandura, though.
Actually, I think Boris was talking about it a while ago...it might be the class of the chunk of debris the Defiant flys by, but that's just speculation.
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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
I think it was in the "Millenium-Falcon"-Topic.
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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I was actually wondering about that chunk of debris. I watched FC the other day and tried to freeze frame on the chunk of hull. There's not a lot of detail but I got this: It has the Starfleet arrowhead and red pinstripe as well as several Ent-D style escape pods on it. That's about all I can see.
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I think it's quite clear that different classes of starships have different escape pod designs. So perhaps that piece of junk is a Galaxy.
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
It's not, though...the curve of the piece indicates it's from a very small saucer, and its features don't match up with a Galaxy.
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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Are there any pics around of this chunk of debris?
I did tape FC, but because of the summer/winter time thing that was going on back then, I miss the first 40 minutes or so. That's exactly the cool part op the movie
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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I'm sorry guys, I meant Ent-E style escape pods (Sovvie Class). My bad!!
It does appear to be a saucer segment, but it doesn't immediately look like any saucer I've seen before.
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If its the chunk the deffie flies by I thought that it looked Steamrunnerish to me...
P.S. Can anyone scan that prelim sketch of the Nebularised Enterprise E from the FC sketch book??
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Posted by Jim Phelps (Member # 102) on :
The escape pods are too big in relation to the saucer - can't be the Steamrunner. That's why I thought it could be the Zandura class science ship that Jaeger talked about in an e-mail.
Boris
Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
One Nebulized Sovereign class, which hasn't made it into the movie, coming up:
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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
If there really was a Zandura, Jaeger should have pics of it. Has someone his e-mail? Then let's ask him.
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
Where does the name Zandura come from anyway?
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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Jaeger's email address is available, but it's been tried in the past without getting any response.
As for Zandura, a quick search reveals it to be part of the name of a Christian band, Fold Zandura. Logic suggests it must mean something beyond that, unless the band simply made it up, which is possible, as I want to name my band The Amazing Zefferdephers.
However, as there appears to be no actual ship design to attach this name to, perhaps we could guess at the context a bit better by knowing where the name came from in the first place?
The name came from a Christian band, and StReamrunner for that matter was a song on one of those Christian band CDs. Unfortunately, the r was somehow dropped in a spelling error and the ship was approved as Steamrunner, which Jaeger says is kinda cool in its own way, a high-tech low-tech combination.
Boris
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Hey! Thanks Altair.
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Posted by Trip Tucker (Member # 297) on :
As for that chunk of debris, I found a pic of it at pIn'a' Sov's website and here it is:
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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Hmm. Looks to me like it could easily come from a Steamrunner.
From looking at what Akira and Steamrunner schematics I have and comparing the locations of all the arrowhead decals, I don't think it could be either an Akira or a Steamrunner. It could be a Zandura class and the only piece of evidence that it does exist in the Trek universe even though we don't have a complete design.
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Posted by Delta Vega (Member # 283) on :
Are those triangle things escape pods? If so they look kinda Soveregnie.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
All of the FC ships have those escape pods, except the Saber. (And possibly the Norway. I'm not even sure whether it was detailed enough to have any escape pods.)
To me, I believe it is the bottom of the Steamrunner...
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But are the Steamrunner's pods really that big in comparison to the forward shuttlebay?
Boris
Posted by Cartman on :
Jello all. I don't think it could be a Steamrunner. Steamrunner's have a large notch in the front, this ship has no notch. I say that it must be this Zandura Class.
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Posted by Cartman on :
I wonder, could this maybe, just maybe be part of the "Sovereignized" Nebula Class like U.S.S. Endeavor. I know they only made one pass at it, and that was only a sketch, but maybe they decided to make that little peice of debris the Endeavor. The Endeavor was to be Sovereign like, this peice of debris has Sovereign Escape pods. The sketch shows the saucer to be completly round, this peice of debris is rounded (atleast what we see). This is all highly unlikly, but not impossible.
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, the escape pods don't make it Sovvy-related. The Akira and Steamrunner both had that type of escape pod.
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